Does God choose our leaders?

mattfivefour

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But God's knowing it did not cause it. Yet Scripture does say that "He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises up kings." (Daniel 2:21) And Romans 13:1 says that "there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God." Yet we have free will and can choose whom we like to lead us in our lands.

I think this is one of those truths of God that we cannot yet understand. One day we will!
 

Andy C

Reborn to fly
But God's knowing it did not cause it. Yet Scripture does say that "He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises up kings." (Daniel 2:21) And Romans 13:1 says that "there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God." Yet we have free will and can choose whom we like to lead us in our lands.

I think this is one of those truths of God that we cannot yet understand. One day we will!
Well said brother. I may not understand all He can do, but I do know there is no limits on what He can choose to do, or choose not to do.
 

GotGrace

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Interesting teaching from Jack. Is it crystal clear in the Bible that God chooses our leaders, or did He only choose certain leaders in the days of the Old Testament?

Does God Choose Our Leaders?
Monday, October 8th, 2012

Q. I have a friend who thinks it doesn’t matter who gets elected as President because God has already predetermined it so it won’t make any difference. BTW, this person is a Christian and also a very intelligent and educated person who thinks this is a correct analysis. I personally do not go along with this philosophy but don’t know how to counter it adequately. I know in my heart what I think, but find it hard to put it all into words that make sense. Can you add some reality to this thinking?

A. First of all, voting is a patriotic duty, not a religious duty. Second, I don’t think Paul was talking about specific leaders in Romans 13:1-7. I think a case could be made that his intent was to say that human governments and the rule of law are things God instituted for the benefit of society, and as Christians we’re bound to submit to them. If everyone took matters into our own hands, then we’d be back to the time of the judges when “Israel had no king and everyone did as he saw fit” (Judges 17:6). I don’t think anyone wants that.

It’s a fact that all through history evil men have subverted the rule of law to put themselves into positions of authority for reasons that were decidedly not a benefit to society. To say that God orchestrated those events is to make Him a co-conspirator with evil men, and that has not been the case. For example, when Israel’s kings became so bad that God could no longer tolerate it, He cursed the royal line and abolished the kingship until the Messiah comes to restore it (Jeremiah 22:30, Ezekiel 21:23-27). Therefore I’m not convinced that God personally chooses every leader.

https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/does-god-choose-our-leaders/

Does God Choose Our Leaders? Follow Up
Wednesday, October 17th, 2012

Q. I am writing in response to your answer to the question “Does God choose Our Leaders” (at least I believe that was the wording of the question). From your answer I am getting the feeling that you do not believe that God is in total control of everything!! Could you please clear this up for me.

A. I believe the Bible argues convincingly against the idea that God is in total control of everything and I’m planning to address that in an upcoming feature article. But for now I’ll confine myself to the election of our leaders.

Recently, I read a comment from a man who said he believes the holder of every public office from the local dogcatcher to the president is personally selected by God. Then he said he views his vote as a prayer that God will select His candidate.

Do you see the problem here? According to Isaiah 46:9-10 God knows the end from the beginning. So if God personally selects every leader, He already knows which candidate He will select and our vote is meaningless. And since the office holder is always the person who received the most votes, then God must have already made sure that enough votes will be cast for His candidate to make him or her the winner. If that’s the case then what does it matter who we vote for or even if we vote because the outcome has already been decided. In my opinion, the whole theory is flawed.

In Biblical times the people sought God’s will through the High Priest. There was no popular vote. The only time God selected a candidate for office and gave people the right to vote, they rejected His Son (Psalm 2:1-6). Soon He will present His Son again and this time there won’t be a vote.

In the meantime I believe voting is a patriotic duty that only involves religion to the extent that the religious convictions of the candidates become the distinguishing factor between them. Voting is an opportunity to express our opinion about Earthly issues that is practically unique in the world. And in spite of the best efforts of politicians throughout our history, our vote still counts, if only a little.

https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/does-god-choose-our-leaders-follow-up/


Does God Choose Our Leaders? More Follow Up
Sunday, October 21st, 2012

Q. Re: Does God choose Our Leaders. I am confused on this because Daniel 2:21 says “And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises up kings; He gives wisdom to the wise And knowledge to those who have understanding.” This verse tells me that God does control who is in office. Am I not understanding this correctly?

A. I believe this statement by Daniel confirms that God has the power to do these things but I don’t think it means He does them as a general practice. For instance when Daniel said God changes the times and seasons he was referring to changes in our calendar. When is the last time He did that?

I believe in this case Daniel was referring specifically to Nebuchadnezzar who God raised up for the purpose of ruling all the countries of the world (Daniel 2:37-38) and who He would later remove from office as a lesson in humility (Daniel 4:28-32).

https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/does-god-choose-our-leaders-more-follow-up/
This is very thought provoking and my little brain is spinning.
 
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