Disclosure, Aliens, and the Apocalypse

ItIsFinished!

ItIsFinished!

Blood bought child of the King of kings.
I believe we are in times of much great deception. Satan tilling the minds to absorb these deceptions. Such as , aliens and all the alien foreplay that is attached to this deception.
However, these great deceptions that come before the coming Tribulation should not be confused with the strong delusion that God sends to those that received not the love of
the truth , that they might be saved.

The number one sign for the coming Tribulation is deception.
We have seen much deception in our times, especially the last few years.
This will only increase rapidly as well depravity and sin in general will wax worse.
These great deceptions conceived through Satan will continue exponentially into the Tribulation.

I personally believe the Scriptures teach the strong delusion will come during the midpoint of the Tribulation.
After that , the time of Jacob's trouble.

For those in Christ Jesus will not be here during that time of Tribulation of seven years that is on the horizon.

Praise The Lamb of God!
✝️
 
Dan the Elder

Dan the Elder

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*****BREAKING NEWS***** I'm an "Alien" -- Phil. 3:20 says so "But we are citizens of heaven, where the Lord Jesus Christ lives. And we are eagerly waiting for him to return as our Savior." Amen?? "This world is not my home, I'm just a passing through. My treasures are laid up somewhere beyond the blue"--- As for the new "worldview" in the hearing's conclusion; "We are not alone" -- anyone who has studied the Word of God could have told them that long ago.
Ephesians 6:12 "For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.

BE NOT DECEIVED!! Luke 21:28 "So when all these things begin to happen, stand and look up, for your salvation is near!”

MARANATHA GOD BLESS, Dan
 
Reason & Hope

Reason & Hope

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Dave_97 said:
You know what’s so interesting about this comment Andy? This is exactly why this topic is serious. IF aliens are real then our whole reality perspective changes and a lot of questions will arise concerning the validity of scripture. Of course I believe they are not, but you point is valid.

That’s why it’s so important Christians stay on top of this, and not simply brush this off. The enemy might be trying to do just that, rebrand the fallen angelic phenomenon as aliens to deceive the masses on the validity of God and creation.

I mean huge atheists are already proposing the idea that aliens are probably what started the process of evolution.

I don’t know exactly what scripture means by “lying signs and wonders” or the “great deception” will be in the last days, but if we are seeing talks of aliens picking up today in the end times we should take note the enemy might try and use this lie because your right, if aliens are real it will brings lots of questions to the entire world religions. It’s almost a perfect lie to use if you ask me.

It’s easier for people to believe these phenomena are “aliens” rather than demonic because they have been drinking the Hollywood juice for decades now.
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Agreed. If people start seeing stuff that is obvious "proof" of "aliens" and then they look to the Christians but the Christians have no answers, then those people will disregard Christianity. Also, if as L A Marzulli believes, "we go up and then they come down", it's good to warn people left behind that these are not your space brothers who seeded the earth, but are demons out to deceive and enslave you.

We need to have an explanation or else we become irrelevant.
 
usoutpost31

usoutpost31

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Reason & Hope said:
Agreed. If people start seeing stuff that is obvious "proof" of "aliens" and then they look to the Christians but the Christians have no answers, then those people will disregard Christianity. Also, if as L A Marzulli believes, "we go up and then they come down", it's good to warn people left behind that these are not your space brothers who seeded the earth, but are demons out to deceive and enslave you.

We need to have an explanation or else we become irrelevant.
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Well they haven't provided any proof. Claims of extraterrestrial life should be viewed critically and not automatically accepted. Most UAP phenomenon we've been able to explain so far have terrestrial, naturally occurring explanations.

Even researchers at the SETI institute are debunking what David Grusch is saying. Rightly pointing out that if alien spacecraft was visiting the earth, the thousands of satellites in orbit would see them. They wouldn't all be flocking to America and the government would have no reason or desire to hide their existence.

The prophets of the Bible obviously had a view of the future but they never mention aliens, UFOs or anything like that. Even if the USA has a cultural fascination with the idea of UFOs, we shouldn't be incorporating it into our own beliefs. That just shows that living in America, society is having more of an effect on us than we are on it.
 
Dave_97

Dave_97

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usoutpost31 said:
The prophets of the Bible obviously had a view of the future but they never mention aliens, UFOs or anything like that. Even if the USA has a cultural fascination with the idea of UFOs, we shouldn't be incorporating it into our own beliefs. That just shows that living in America, society is having more of an effect on us than we are on it.
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Thats the whole point…The bible does not mention UFOs at all that’s why this issue is important. But does the Bible mention angelic beings coming from the “heavens” to cause problems to human beings? Yes, a very resounding YES. This is clearly mentioned in the book of Genesis 6, as the “sons of God” who came and mated with humans to produced nephilim giants who caused so many problems to the point God had to flood the entire earth.

I believe the scriptures are clear about warning of fallen angelic beings from the heavens.

“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:12‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Contrary to pop culture belief, most fallen angelic beings are not somewhere currently in hell, and satan sitting on his throne in hell with a red suit and pitchfork. Satan and his angelic fallen hordes are depicted in scripture to clearly have the capability to roam the earth, and to Satan himself has had access to go to heaven according to the book of Job. Of course he will be banished mid-way through the tribulation, but as it stands today, these beings are able to operate in the heavens somewhere up there as Paul clearly mentions.

Here is another verse from Galatians

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:6-8‬ ‭

What kind of angel is Paul referring to that can attempt to preach a gospel contrary to that of Christ? Fallen angelic beings, who Paul himself already mentioned are in the “heavenly places”.

So when Christians are trying to sound the alarm because we notice an agenda of superior intelligent beings ”not from this earth” but from the “universe” or “heavens” being pushed to the world. We as Christians should clearly know that any superior strong being that has come to earth in the past were fallen angels (Genesis 6). And Paul himself warns of fallen angels “in the heavenly places”. So is it honestly an un-biblical fare fetched idea to think Satan will try and bring these fallen angelic beings back to earth in the last days?

Paul says this in 1 Corinthians 2:11

“so that no advantage would be taken of us by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his schemes.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭2:11‬ ‭

Why does Paul say that in his current time? Because in truth as Christians we shouldn’t be ignorant of Satans schemes/tactics. He has been using the same deceptions since the beginning, but he just keeps re-packaging them and rebranding the same lies. We see it in mans quest to become God, we see it in sexuality. Nothing is new under the Sun. The Alien phenomena is not some new trick Satan is pulling from his sleeve that is unblical. Fallen angels have visited earth in the past, so Christins should be aware the enemy might try and pull off something similar again to deceive the masses. It might not be exactly the same as in Genesis 6, but very similar. Maybe not mating with humans as that’s pointless now, but deceiving mankind in a different way. Maybe its why Christ said it will be like the days of Noah.

Whenever Christians hear of the word “Aliens” I want you to quickly forget about any Hollywood movie you have ever seen. Stop it and forget it. Immediately think of it from a biblical perspectiv, you will immediately notice these are demonic entities, simple as that.

Also the USA is not the only nation with UFO fascination, I was not born in the United States and knew about aliens since i was a boy. I grew up in Africa, and the media from America has made its way there. On top of that there many UFO stories of visitation from Africa (where I was born), some proponent ones from Zimbabwe. Not all are true, some maybe, but one thing they have in common, they are demonic.

David Grusch is one of many, there are others high ranking military positions have had first had similar stories and appeared in various podcast. Please if you have time do more research. This talk is becoming more and more mainstream, and it’s being pushed as “aliens” from a different planet. It’s not, Satan is working to deceive humanity and the church is basically asleep.

If the enemy is behind this, I wouldn’t even expect a big revealing before the rapture, why? Because Christians (who know of this topic) will call it out for what it is and rebuke these beings in the name of Jesus. So don’t expect any huge evidence like a craft landing by the White House lawn. Most evidence will probably come from eye witness testimony in my opinion for now. Most likely the enemy will attempt to make his grand reveal after the rapture in my opinion. Hence Christians can counter this narrative and speak truth so that even when we are gone people will know Christians spoke the truth on the nature of this UFO phenomenon.
 
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Andy C

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Dave_97 said:
Thats the whole point…The bible does not mention UFOs at all that’s why this issue is important. Does the Bible mention angelic beings coming from the “heavens” to cause problems to human beings? Yes, a very resounding YES. This is clearly mentioned in the book of Genesis 6, as the “sons of God” who came and mated with humans to produced nephilim giants who caused so many problems to the point God had to flood the entire earth.

I believe the scriptures are clear about warning of fallen angelic beings from the heavens.

“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:12‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Contrary to pop culture belief, most fallen angelic beings are not somewhere currently in hell, and satan sitting on his throne in hell with a red suit and pitchfork. Satan and his angelic fallen hordes are depicted in scripture to clearly have the capability to roam the earth, and to Satan himself has had access to go to heaven according to the book of Job. Of course he will be banished mid-way through the tribulation, but as it stands today, these beings are able to operate in the heavens somewhere up there as Paul clearly mentions.

Here is another verse from Galatians

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:6-8‬ ‭

What kind of angel is Paul referring to that can attempt to preach a gospel contrary to that of Christ? Fallen angelic beings, who Paul himself already mentioned are in the “heavenly places”.

So when Christians are trying to sound the alarm because we notice an agenda of superior intelligent beings ”not from this earth” but from the “universe” or “heavens” being pushed to the world. We as Christians should clearly know that any superior strong being that has come to earth in the past were fallen angels (Genesis 6). And Paul himself warns of fallen angels “in the heavenly places”. So is it honestly an un-biblical fare fetched idea to think Satan will try and bring these fallen angelic beings back to earth in the last days?

Paul says this in 1 Corinthians 2:11

“so that no advantage would be taken of us by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his schemes.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭2:11‬ ‭

Why does Paul say that in his current time? Because in truth as Christians we shouldn’t be ignorant of Satans schemes/tactics. He has been using the same deceptions since the beginning, but he just keeps re-packaging them and rebranding the same lies. We see it in mans quest to become God, we see it in sexuality. Nothing is new under the Sun. The Alien phenomena is not some new trick Satan is pulling from his sleeve that is unblical. Fallen angels have visited earth in the past, so Christins should be aware the enemy might try and pull off something similar again to deceive the masses. It might not be exactly the same as in Genesis 6, but very similar. Maybe not mating with humans as that’s pointless now, but deceiving mankind in a different way. Maybe its why Christ said it will be like the days of Noah.

Whenever Christians hear of the word “Aliens” I want you to quickly forget about any Hollywood movie you have ever seen. Stop it and forget it. Immediately think of it from a biblical perspectiv, you will immediately notice these are demonic entities, simple as that.

Also the USA is not the only nation with UFO fascination, I was not born in the United States and knew about aliens since i was a boy. I grew up in Africa, and the media from America has made its way there. On top of that there many UFO stories of visitation from Africa (where I was born), some proponent ones from Zimbabwe. Not all are true, some maybe, but one thing they have in common, they are demonic.

David Grusch is one of many, there are others high ranking military positions have had first had similar stories and appeared in various podcast. Please if you have time do more research. This talk is becoming more and more mainstream, and it’s being pushed as “aliens” from a different planet. It’s not, Satan is working to deceive humanity and the church is basically asleep.

If the enemy is behind this, I wouldn’t even expect a big revealing before the rapture, why? Because Christians (who know of this topic) will call it out for what it is and rebuke these beings in the name of Jesus. So don’t expect any huge evidence like a craft landing by the White House lawn. Most evidence will probably come from eye witness testimony in my opinion for now. Most likely the enemy will attempt to make his grand reveal after the rapture in my opinion. Hence Christians can counter this narrative and speak truth so that even when we are gone people will know Christians spoke the truth on the nature of this UFO phenomenon.
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Yes, satan and his minions can be anywhere, attacking at will. Thankfully, the church can put on the full armor of God as our protection.

You and I dont really disagree on any of this other than I choose not to be overly concerned about the latest news on aliens. I know “aliens” could be blamed for the rapture, and the world is being set up for that view now, but thats just speculation. Plausible speculation, but still speculation.
 
FindingJoy

FindingJoy

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Has any whistleblower actually said entity/being/alien yet?

So far I've only heard "biologics" which, disappointing to my Star Trek loving youth, could simply be mold.
 
NewWine2020

NewWine2020

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alisani said:
Beautiful post!

I had coffee after an earlier misreading on the forum today regarding cabbages and knitting needles.

Well, I guess I need more because that first line had me confused and thinking they were moving into some zombie apocalypse speculation ala "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" kinda stuff. :eek2 :ahaha
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Your zombie apocalypse comment got me thinking...the way our culture has been obsessing over "zombie stuff" (TV, movies, etc.) for many, many years make me wonder if there's not actually some predictive aspect to it... (as with most of what media puts out)

Imagine if the evil spirits released from the bottomless pit during the tribulation that will then kill a third of humanity did so via mass possession/insanity that took the visible form of formerly normal people going crazy and attacking/eating each other?

Cosmetically, it It would certainly resemble many of the media depictions of what a "zombie apocalypse" might look like.

OK, that was morbid. I probably need mor coffee myself. ")
 
NewWine2020

NewWine2020

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Reason & Hope said:
Mere mold is not capable of piloting aircraft and Grusch claimed he knew of pilots.
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It could mean animals; I'm wondering if these science fair experiments we supposedly captured were piloted by chimpanzees or something similar in the name of "research" (Space monkey's in 1959 anyone?)

I know it's all a sham show but I still find myself watching it because I USED to be very into that kind of stuff prior to getting saved I still cant help but be interested in the way it's developing even though I'm now witching and judging with a Christ-centric world view.

It's frustrating the way they can talk and still basically not say anything. Oh, well it IS a show put on by the US Congress. :)
 
Reason & Hope

Reason & Hope

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NewWine2020 said:
It could mean animals; I'm wondering if these science fair experiments we supposedly captured were piloted by chimpanzees or something similar in the name of "research" (Space monkey's in 1959 anyone?)

I know it's all a sham show but I still find myself watching it because I USED to be very into that kind of stuff prior to getting saved I still cant help but be interested in the way it's developing even though I'm now witching and judging with a Christ-centric world view.

It's frustrating the way they can talk and still basically not say anything. Oh, well it IS a show put on by the US Congress. :)
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Speaking of a show, aka a diversion, in the news being missed is that Samuel Bankman-Fried, who scammed millions and gave a bunch of it to Democrat politicians, has been let off the hook. The DOJ has dropped all charges. Oh, and Hunter Biden's attorneys are lying and devious: having left out a crucial paragraph in their document for the judge and one called the judge's office pretending to be a member of a Congressional committee. Oh, and we have more info coming out about Devon Archer will testify that Hunter called his father at least dozen times to prove to his "investors" that he had his Daddy's ear (and therefore could influence policy). But.... aliens!

(Btw, I do believe that fallen angels cause many of these manifestations, but I also believe that the media especially will focus on aliens (or something else dramatic) to get attention away from the Biden crime family.)
 
FindingJoy

FindingJoy

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NewWine2020 said:
Your zombie apocalypse comment got me thinking...the way our culture has been obsessing over "zombie stuff" (TV, movies, etc.) for many, many years make me wonder if there's not actually some predictive aspect to it... (as with most of what media puts out)

Imagine if the evil spirits released from the bottomless pit during the tribulation that will then kill a third of humanity did so via mass possession/insanity that took the visible form of formerly normal people going crazy and attacking/eating each other?

Cosmetically, it It would certainly resemble many of the media depictions of what a "zombie apocalypse" might look like.

OK, that was morbid. I probably need mor coffee myself. ")
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I've wondered similar myself, and we're even seeing versions of "zombies" with some of these street drugs.
Personally, I've wondered if zombies tie into these clones scientists talk about; and then I tighten my tinfoil hat and wonder if fallen angels will posses the clones.

Coffee you say? :hehee
 
alisani

alisani

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FindingJoy said:
I've wondered similar myself, and we're even seeing versions of "zombies" with some of these street drugs.
Personally, I've wondered if zombies tie into these clones scientists talk about; and then I tighten my tinfoil hat and wonder if fallen angels will posses the clones.

Coffee you say? :hehee
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Coffee. You and @NewWine2020 come on over. I've had a pot going pretty much all day. Woke up with the right leg trying it's best to repeatedly insert itself into the left leg of my pants. Eventually gave up, put on a dress instead, and went straight to the coffee pot. I made brownies too. So we can sit around and speculate as to whether star trek mold will create the next zombie apocalypse or whether it's time to activate the Omega 13. (It's a reference to the movie Galaxy Quest for the non-geeks among us.) We can make tinfoil hats and talk about these space cadets wandering around, aimless, shifty, no-good doing zombies. And yes, that's what they are. And yes, I do feel comfortable talking about my extended family that way! Come to one of our family reunions sometime. You'll see what I'm talking 'bout.:hehee
 
NewWine2020

NewWine2020

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alisani said:
Coffee. You and @NewWine2020 come on over. I've had a pot going pretty much all day. Woke up with the right leg trying it's best to repeatedly insert itself into the left leg of my pants. Eventually gave up, put on a dress instead, and went straight to the coffee pot. I made brownies too. So we can sit around and speculate as to whether star trek mold will create the next zombie apocalypse or whether it's time to activate the Omega 13. (It's a reference to the movie Galaxy Quest for the non-geeks among us.) We can make tinfoil hats and talk about these space cadets wandering around, aimless, shifty, no-good doing zombies. And yes, that's what they are. And yes, I do feel comfortable talking about my extended family that way! Come to one of our family reunions sometime. You'll see what I'm talking 'bout.:hehee
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Every sci fi nerd KNOWs that the Star Trek mold will create TRIBBLES! :)

And Galaxy Quest was awesome!
 
Umbrella Girl

Umbrella Girl

Now we see through a glass, darkly; (1 Cor 13:12)
alisani said:
There are a lot of new age theories saying enlightened beings, here to help humanity evolve, are going to remove those who are resistant to evolution. They will remove those who don't embrace cosmic enlightenment, group consciousness, etc
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Remove them and supposedly do what with them? “Educate / enlighten them? Or kill them?
 
Umbrella Girl

Umbrella Girl

Now we see through a glass, darkly; (1 Cor 13:12)
If these “aliens” are actually demonic beings, then why would they need physical vehicles to travel in? Spiritual beings don’t need vehicles of any kind. They just appear / disappear…
 
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