Disclosure, Aliens, and the Apocalypse

[Dave_97]

I did! And I'm utterfly SHOCKED how little people seem to care.
5 years ago this would have been breaking news.

It’s absolutely shocking to me as well. The fact that this is a serious conversation being held in front of congress says it all.

The people testifying don’t give off any crazy vibes as well, they seem very well spoken and smart respected military officials.

 

[Andy C]

It’s absolutely shocking to me as well. The fact that this is a serious conversation being held in front of congress says it all.

The people testifying don’t give off any crazy vibes as well, they seem very well spoken and smart respected military officials.

What is there to really care about? Sure, it can be entertaining watching some of the circus on TV, but other than that - I could care less.
I have a hard enough time keeping up with real news.

 

[Dave_97]

What is there to really care about? Sure, it can be entertaining watching some of the circus on TV, but other than that - I could care less.
I have a hard enough time keeping up with real news.

What is there to care about?

Again we might have opinions that are different and that’s okay. But if it’s all true what these men are claiming puts a huge question mark on the entire U.S government and what on earth they are doing with all this tech they are reverse engineering. And even potentially contact with the bodies of these so called “beings”.

From a spiritual perspective, this could be a set up of the great deception. Crazy as it sounds, I wouldn’t put it past the enemy. Western culture is very asleep when it comes to the spiritual stuff, as we have been all brainwashed to explain it all away with science.

So yes I believe this is important and we are seeing deception creep in at such a higher level which is a huge sign of the soon coming tribulation.

 

[Andy C]

What is there to care about?

Again we might have opinions that are different and that’s okay. But if it’s all true what these men are claiming puts a huge question mark on the entire U.S government and what on earth they are doing with all this tech they are reverse engineering. And even potentially contact with the bodies of these so called “beings”.

From a spiritual perspective, this could be a set up of the great deception. Crazy as it sounds, I wouldn’t put it past the enemy. Western culture is very asleep when it comes to the spiritual stuff, as we have been all brainwashed to explain it all away with science.

So yes I believe this is important and we are seeing deception creep in at such a higher level which is a huge sign of the soon coming tribulation.

Perhaps, but Im more concerned about earthly, and even more so about heavenly issues.

If (I strongly believe there is not) but if there are real aliens from other planets, then the author of the bible needs to release a sequel.

Why trust what congress believes or is investigating when as a body, they cant define what a woman is.

The great “deception” or more aptly called “the grand delusion” will someday be released on those unbelievers who were left behind. Me, you and I, the church, we will be long gone.

 

[Dave_97]

Perhaps, but Im more concerned about earthly, and even more so about heavenly issues.

If (I strongly believe there is not) but if there are real aliens from other planets, then the author of the bible has some explaining to do.

Why trust what congress believes or is investigating when as a body, they cant define what a woman is.

The great “deception” or more aptly called “the grand delusion” will someday be released on those unbelievers who were left behind. Me, you and I, the church, we will be long gone.

I respect your answer Andy, and I can see where you’re coming from. Totally get it bro. I know we disagree but maybe I can persuade you why this is serious lol.

My interest in this news of UFOs is the same as my interest in what is going on in Israel, and it’s the same as what’s goin on in our culture. These are all signs pointing to the soon coming of Christ. I don’t view UFOs news because I’m interested in these beings (aliens), I never have been an alien fanatic lol. But because I understand these are not aliens from another planet, I know for a fact this is the activity of the enemy. And if Satan is working this hard to possibly try and deceive humanity on the real nature of demons/fallen angels and possibly the coming rapture, chances are we are probably close to the end than most realize.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. There is no such thing as Aliens from a different planet. Matter fact I don’t even believe there is a single life anywhere but Earth. Why? Because scripture so clear on what God created and where he did it.

So the fact that we have been brainwashed by the media (Hollywood) into thinking there is probably life outside of earth, is a huge sign the enemy has bring preparing the masses to believe in aliens.

It’s basically a rebranding of demons/fallen angels. And as a Christian I can simply brush this aside as “crazy talk” or I can try and get on top of it to warn the unbelieving World there is no such thing as aliens, and if these military officials are telling the truth, then the U.S government has NOT been interacting with “aliens” but very dark stuff.

Also whether or not congress is reliable. It’s part of the government. The people testifying are not on congress, but the fact that it got this far clearly shows it’s not your average crazy conspiracy talk coming from crazy people. If the unbelieving world is starting to take this serious and talks like this affect peoples beliefs of reality, I believe the church has to have a very good response and stay on top of this. I’m going to try and expose evil, no matter how crazy it may sound.

That’s just how my mindset is on this lol.

 

[Dave_97]

If (I strongly believe there is not) but if there are real aliens from other planets, then the author of the bible needs to release a sequel.

You know what’s so interesting about this comment Andy? This is exactly why this topic is serious. IF aliens are real then our whole reality perspective changes and a lot of questions will arise concerning the validity of scripture. Of course I believe they are not, but you point is valid.

That’s why it’s so important Christians stay on top of this, and not simply brush this off. The enemy might be trying to do just that, rebrand the fallen angelic phenomenon as aliens to deceive the masses on the validity of God and creation.

I mean huge atheists are already proposing the idea that aliens are probably what started the process of evolution.

I don’t know exactly what scripture means by “lying signs and wonders” or the “great deception” will be in the last days, but if we are seeing talks of aliens picking up today in the end times we should take note the enemy might try and use this lie because your right, if aliens are real it will brings lots of questions to the entire world religions. It’s almost a perfect lie to use if you ask me.

It’s easier for people to believe these phenomena are “aliens” rather than demonic because they have been drinking the Hollywood juice for decades now.

 

[alisani]

You know what’s so interesting about this comment Andy? This is exactly why this topic is serious. IF aliens are real then our whole reality perspective changes and a lot of questions will arise concerning the validity of scripture. Of course I believe they are not, but you point is valid.

That’s why it’s so important Christians stay on top of this, and not simply brush this off. The enemy might be trying to do just that, rebrand the fallen angelic phenomenon as aliens to deceive the masses on the validity of God and creation.

I mean huge atheists are already proposing the idea that aliens are probably what started the process of evolution.

I don’t know exactly what scripture means by “lying signs and wonders” or the “great deception” will be in the last days, but if we are seeing talks of aliens picking up today in the end times we should take note the enemy might try and use this lie because your right, if aliens are real it will brings lots of questions to the entire world religions. It’s almost a perfect lie to use if you ask me.

It’s easier for people to believe these phenomena are “aliens” rather than demonic because they have been drinking the Hollywood juice for decades now.

I understand what you and Andy are both saying. I'm inclined to agree with you about the importance of being aware of such delusions and just who is espousing them. When governments and institutions and media are all jumping on the bandwagon about "aliens", I believe part of our mission here is to be ready to dispel such delusions with the gospel of truth. And there is a sense of urgency because we know the season we are in. The time is now because when we see signs of the Tribulation right around the corner, we know time is short.

At the end of the day, this is a salvation issue, in my opinion. Too many are just on that broad road to hell, putting their trust in government and the media. Why are we still here if not to rebut that? To see people reject the satanic lie and come to saving faith in Christ?

 

[FindingJoy]

@Dave_97 You basically read my mind, but worded it more eloquently!

 

[NewWine2020]

Just thought, anyone noticed how all this is or mostly an American thing.

That is interesting. It seems lately like North Americans are more gullible, apathetic and amendable to believing in any drivel; we are the only ones really on board with the LGBTQMAP degeneracy in a way that even makes Western Europe uncomfortable now...

It stands to reason that the seeds of the coming great deceit will be firmly planted here to start with.

 

[NewWine2020]

It’s absolutely shocking to me as well. The fact that this is a serious conversation being held in front of congress says it all.

The people testifying don’t give off any crazy vibes as well, they seem very well spoken and smart respected military officials.

LOL, I watched part of the presentation today and that was an observation I had as well; that all these different politicians who have been hating on each other for years were able to calmly and rationally sit and discuss this was almost shocking...actually, it kind of gave me the creeps. That they could all buy in to this and set aside their differences, be respectful, not talk or over each other...even AOC seemed rationale.

This along with the way the mainstream media is now causally discussing the idea of "UFO's" and "aliens" (when in the past it was just for crazy folks and meth addled hillbillies)....

They are doing a ,masterful plan of laying the groundwork for the adversary's upcoming "strong delusion"


On a secular level, It does also make me angry the way the govt and military ruined good peoples lives/careers over this stuff in the past. They owe Bob Lazar a huge apology.

 

[usoutpost31]

What is there to care about?

Again we might have opinions that are different and that’s okay. But if it’s all true what these men are claiming puts a huge question mark on the entire U.S government and what on earth they are doing with all this tech they are reverse engineering. And even potentially contact with the bodies of these so called “beings”.

From a spiritual perspective, this could be a set up of the great deception. Crazy as it sounds, I wouldn’t put it past the enemy. Western culture is very asleep when it comes to the spiritual stuff, as we have been all brainwashed to explain it all away with science.

So yes I believe this is important and we are seeing deception creep in at such a higher level which is a huge sign of the soon coming tribulation.

They still won't or can't provide any evidence. David Grusch has not seen any alien technology or alien 'biologics'. He's only repeating what he heard from someone else. This is not persuasive.

There is deception during the Tribulation but at the same time, God is also revealing Himself, dramatically and showing Himself to be superior over the power of the devil and the Antichrist. We're spending too much time worrying about alternate explanations for the Rapture. Nobody remembers Jannes or Jambres or the other magicians from Egypt trying to imitate Moses and Aaron. What everyone remembers about the Exodus is what God Himself did for Israel. The same goes for Jesus rising from the dead. "The disciples stole the body" alternate explanation spread by the Pharisees doesn't make sense and was ineffective.

When God does something, human efforts to diminish it are futile and foolish and end up in the dustbin of history.

1 Thess 4:13-18, when we are caught up in the air to meet the Lord, there is no mention of Satan and his army of demons. There is no place for them there.

 

[Jaybird]

What really blows my mind is the fact that these people, even though they are undoubtedly atheists, actually believe there is going to be a Rapture and are grooming the World for an alien deception to explain it away. You would think if they believe in the Rapture that they would also understand how this will all end as it is clearly laid out in the Scripture. As Dave_97 mentions most people just drink the Hollywood juice, but the people orchestrating this deception (and there are many) are different. It is amazing to see all of these pieces fall right into place just as the Scripture has predicted.

 

[Andy C]

There seems to be a lot of assumptions that the departure of the church will be blamed on aliens. Yes, that is a POSSIBILITY, but nevertheless pure speculation. Talk of aliens could simply be the flavor of the month in Wash DC. Just out of curiosity, how many other major countries are focusing on aliens, or is it primarily just the USA?

I have no way of knowing what excuse will be used in explaining away the rapture, and really, I dont care. What I do care about are my unsaved loved ones and friends, and all of them I gave the rapture brief, what to expect, how it happened, what they need to do after, and what not to do.

 

[Reunionroundthecorner]

I'm just agreeing with all of you because of the valid points made. You're not disagreeing, you're just saying it in a different way. IMO.

Again I say, if the world has to admit the rapture happened, then they have to admit "all those crazy Christians" were right. And they are not about to do that............ever.

 

[daygo]

I'm just agreeing with all of you because of the valid points made. You're not disagreeing, you're just saying it in a different way. IMO.

Again I say, if the world has to admit the rapture happened, then they have to admit "all those crazy Christians" were right. And they are not about to do that............ever.

Good point, they certainly won't do that but hopefully that'll be the reason there's a massive revival and an awakening.

 

[Dave_97]

They still won't or can't provide any evidence. David Grusch has not seen any alien technology or alien 'biologics'. He's only repeating what he heard from someone else. This is not persuasive.

There is deception during the Tribulation but at the same time, God is also revealing Himself, dramatically and showing Himself to be superior over the power of the devil and the Antichrist. We're spending too much time worrying about alternate explanations for the Rapture. Nobody remembers Jannes or Jambres or the other magicians from Egypt trying to imitate Moses and Aaron. What everyone remembers about the Exodus is what God Himself did for Israel. The same goes for Jesus rising from the dead. "The disciples stole the body" alternate explanation spread by the Pharisees doesn't make sense and was ineffective.

When God does something, human efforts to diminish it are futile and foolish and end up in the dustbin of history.

1 Thess 4:13-18, when we are caught up in the air to meet the Lord, there is no mention of Satan and his army of demons. There is no place for them there.

Of course in the end people will know it is God who is working to judge the nations during the tribulation.

In the end every knee will bow and confess Jesus is Lord.

However, that doesn’t mean I won’t expose something I see as demonic and an attempt to deceive many people.

I love everyone who disagrees with me and obviously can’t convince them that the alien phenomenon is important. I myself never paid much attention and even brushed of eschatology teachers who spent the little time on these topics. So i respect you and anyone else who has a different view, but I urge you to not completely shut this topic off. As time moves on and the closer we get to the rapture, you yourself will notice this topic being pushed to very hard.

It wasn’t until I decided to do a little research on the alien phenomenon to realize this is incredibly demonic and a lot of people have been hurt by this. Grusch is one of many. There are other military officials who have had first hand experience and have not even appeared on this congressional hearing.

So either our military is filled with crazy people parroting the same lie, or there is smoke somewhere. When you have the pentagon and other areas of the government not directly denying but classifying everything related to UFOs for decades it raises lots of concern.

Nobody wants to look like a fanatic, or a fool. This topic is strategically given this stigma so anyone who comes forward is immediately labeled as crazy. Yet when one sits down to hear these man speak, you realize they are rational.

Anyways I think this is as much I can say in terms of trying to explain why this is important. I respect those who disagree, for the sake of not turning this into a debate or argument I think I’ll continue to chat about the topic but not try convince those who disagree.

Thanks

-Dave

 

[JoyJoyJoy]

@Dave_97 I see your point!
UFOs in general mean nothing to me because I know it's fake.
I think you are right to say we as Christians should pay attention. I think it's 100% conditioning for times to come. Perhaps it could come up when witnessing to someone and we need to know what's going on so we can combat it.
Even so, I am unable to research it..complete lack of interest. So reading these threads informs me.

Who knows how the Rapture will be explained?? I guess Old Scratch doesn't know either so he has to keep lies circulating and growing stronger.

 

[Andy C]

So how will the UN, WEF, and other globalist-minded entities transform the world of today into that of the Great Reset? They will do what they’ve always done which is to crisis to solidify their control over the nations of the world.

So what is this coming great crisis?

To the believer, it will be the Rapture of the Church.

To the world, it will be the arrival of extraterrestrial visitors.

Interesting. The rapture will create a crisis, and after the church is gone, all bets are off as to what the world will become prior to the start of the tribulation. Im speculating the WEF will finally see an opening for their great reset, and work hard to implement their evil policies. If they want to blame aliens, so be it, I dont care.

I do agree its important to track the signs of the end times, just make sure what you are tracking are biblical signs, not just signs of how bad the world is becoming.

My attention is far better served focusing on Israel, than what is happening or not happening in the outer space. The bible speaks on only one of these topics…

 

[Jaybird]

The reality is that we speculate on many of the end time scenarios as the intricate details are not explained in the Scriptures and we try to "logically" put the pieces in their place, but you are correct in that the "lie" or great deception could be totally unrelated to an alien abduction. However, I find the timing of all these alien revelations by the government to be suspect. Nothing these people do happens in a vacuum. They are always planning ahead and all of a sudden they want to reveal the "truth" about aliens that they have kept hidden for so long. They are using this information to set the stage for something. Time will tell how it all comes together. Luckily, we won't be here for it! Maranatha!

 

[Reunionroundthecorner]

The reality is that we speculate on many of the end time scenarios as the intricate details are not explained in the Scriptures and we try to "logically" put the pieces in their place, but you are correct in that the "lie" or great deception could be totally unrelated to an alien abduction. However, I find the timing of all these alien revelations by the government to be suspect. Nothing these people do happens in a vacuum. They are always planning ahead and all of a sudden they want to reveal the "truth" about aliens that they have kept hidden for so long. They are using this information to set the stage for something. Time will tell how it all comes together. Luckily, we won't be here for it! Maranatha!

I thought the same thing. Timing is the key and only time will tell.