How ironic is this?My friend, you are missing the point.
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How ironic is this?My friend, you are missing the point.
Hello Bap,
My friend, you are missing the point. Below are excerpts from the main context regarding this issue:
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The Marriage of the Lamb
And I heard a sound like the roar of a great multitude, like the rushing of many waters, and like a mighty rumbling of thunder, crying out:
“Hallelujah!
For our Lord God, the Almighty, reigns. Let us rejoice and celebrate and give Him the glory. For the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His bride has made herself ready. She was given clothing of fine linen, bright and pure.”
For the fine linen she wears is the righteous acts of the saints.
11Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True. With righteousness He judges and wages war. 12He has eyes like blazing fire, and many royal crowns on His head. He has a name written on Him that only He Himself knows. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and His name is The Word of God.
14The armies of heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and pure, follow Him on white horses.
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The interlinear has it as "Fine line, white and pure." However, the context is what we should be paying attention to here, not the words describing the linen. The context is not going to refer to the bride and then insert angels. First we see the bride receiving her "fine linen, white and pure." Then the context defines the meaning of the fine linen that she, the bride wears as representing the her righteous acts. Then, in V.14, you have the armies of heaven dressed in the same "fine linen, white and pure" following the Lord out of heaven on white horses. Therefore, staying within the context, it is the bride receiving her fine linen, white and pure who is in view here, with that army following Christ out of heaven on white horses also being identified as the bride by referring to them as wearing the same fine linen. In additional support that it is the bride who is in view here as being that army following Christ out of heaven, I have presented the following:
"They (the beast and ten kings) will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones.” - Rev.17:14
The above is in reference to Rev.19:11-21 when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age. Notice who the Lord is accompanied by when he departs from heaven to the earth: It is the "called, chosen and faithful followers." This would not be a description relating to angels, but to followers of Christ.
The entire context is regarding the bride who is receiving her fine line, white and pure which represents her righteous acts. Therefore, remaining in the context she, the bride, is that army identified as wearing that same fine line, white and pure that she will have previously been given at the wedding of the Lamb.
How ironic is this?
How ironic is this?
When the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts are consulted alongside English translations, one thing becomes abundantly clear; the English language can be remarkably inadequate when it comes to nuances in meaning.
You have a humble response Bap. Don't beat yourself up, as you said... learn from this.
I've inadvertently posted some things I didn't realize weren't good sources and R.F. people kindly to let me know. Frankly there's such an avalanche of false teaching the probability of posting a bad source is increased.... sometimes even when one researches. But, I've appreciated the body of Christ here who share their knowledge and warn.
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Well, Hebrews 11:13-16 is certainly true and applies to ALL of those in the Faith Hall of Fame. But it does not give us an exposition of the two summary verses at the end of this eleventh chapter.
The Holy Spirit, through Paul, tells us that at the Rapture the "dead in Christ" will rise first (1 Thessalonians 4:16). Who are the dead "in Christ"?
Bap, what does Hebrews 11:39-40 say to you? It is the key to much about God's plan for redeemed man.
I don't retain thoughts too well now adays...now I'm really confused....please post the correct understanding and I will try to remember I will check back later...thanks
bap....it's not you it's me ......hahahaha.....I would love to be ABLE to be specific...You are doing good...it's me who is slipping...(but it's ok...I know HE has got me)I'm sorry. I do not understand. Can you please be more specific?
You are kind Bap....I'm laughing at myself...it's ok....You keep on with you study ....our Lord will reward you for searching...
Hello Bap,
My friend, you are missing the point. Below are excerpts from the main context regarding this issue:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Marriage of the Lamb
And I heard a sound like the roar of a great multitude, like the rushing of many waters, and like a mighty rumbling of thunder, crying out:
“Hallelujah!
For our Lord God, the Almighty, reigns. Let us rejoice and celebrate and give Him the glory. For the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His bride has made herself ready. She was given clothing of fine linen, bright and pure.”
For the fine linen she wears is the righteous acts of the saints.
11Then I saw heaven standing open, and there before me was a white horse. And its rider is called Faithful and True. With righteousness He judges and wages war. 12He has eyes like blazing fire, and many royal crowns on His head. He has a name written on Him that only He Himself knows. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and His name is The Word of God.
14The armies of heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and pure, follow Him on white horses.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The interlinear has it as "Fine line, white and pure." However, the context is what we should be paying attention to here, not the words describing the linen. The context is not going to refer to the bride and then insert angels. First we see the bride receiving her "fine linen, white and pure." Then the context defines the meaning of the fine linen that she, the bride wears as representing the her righteous acts. Then, in V.14, you have the armies of heaven dressed in the same "fine linen, white and pure" following the Lord out of heaven on white horses. Therefore, staying within the context, it is the bride receiving her fine linen, white and pure who is in view here, with that army following Christ out of heaven on white horses also being identified as the bride by referring to them as wearing the same fine linen. In additional support that it is the bride who is in view here as being that army following Christ out of heaven, I have presented the following:
"They (the beast and ten kings) will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones.” - Rev.17:14
The above is in reference to Rev.19:11-21 when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age. Notice who the Lord is accompanied by when he departs from heaven to the earth: It is the "called, chosen and faithful followers." This would not be a description relating to angels, but to followers of Christ.
The entire context is regarding the bride who is receiving her fine line, white and pure which represents her righteous acts. Therefore, remaining in the context she, the bride, is that army identified as wearing that same fine line, white and pure that she will have previously been given at the wedding of the Lamb.
I'll bet you wonder why, I said Ash. It's because I thought your screen username was Ashwatukee. I just realized it is Ahwatukee. I am sorry.
Well, Hebrews 11:13-16 is certainly true and applies to ALL of those in the Faith Hall of Fame. But it does not give us an exposition of the two summary verses at the end of this eleventh chapter.
The Holy Spirit, through Paul, tells us that at the Rapture the "dead in Christ" will rise first (1 Thessalonians 4:16). Who are the dead "in Christ"?
No...Is this a trick question?