Daniel 8 question


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Is Daniel 8 fulfilled or not? It's generally thought that the vision in this chapter is talking about Alexander the Great conquering Persia, then his empire breaking apart, and ultimately Antiochus IV Epiphanes desecrating the temple. But Daniel 8:15-19 seems to suggest that this all takes place at the end of time.


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Many prophecies have two or even three fulfillments: a near and a far (and sometimes an intermediate.) This particular project has two: it was initially and perfectly fulfilled in Antiochus Epiphanes, but will be completely fulfilled in the Antichrist. As Dave Guzik says in his Enduring Word commentary-- "though this prophecy was fulfilled in Antiochus Epiphanes, it also has a later fulfillment in the Antichrist, referring to the time of the end. Antiochus Epiphanes is sometimes called the “Antichrist of the Old Testament.” He prefigures the Antichrist of the end times."


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I understand the concepts of dual fulfillment and types. But if the prophesy is said to take place near or during the tribulation, doesn't it mean a major war between Greece and Persia is future?