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Could the Nord Stream gas leak be a sign of worse to come? - analysis
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Tall Timbers
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Underwater drone?
athenasius
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It's not a smart play by anyone, so this suggests that God has given them over to a delusional mindset to do what is foolish.
Pharoah abused God's people, then he tried to murder the baby boys, then as time went by the Pharoah of the Exodus opposed Moses and made it worse yet.
Thru it all we read the same refrain, God hardened Pharoah's heart.
God hardens hearts, and He turns the hearts of the kings as I quoted above Proverbs 21:1 "The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will."
I think with anything to do with Israel and prophecy (and this seems to be stage setting for the Gog Magog Ezek 38 &39 prophecy) you should be watching for strange things that shouldn't normally happen.
This qualifies.
I doubt God would allow Israel to attack Russia for the very reason that they are not expecting an attack from Russia in the Gog Magog invasion. Israel isn't expecting to be hurt by Russia.
That is significant here and I think it lets Israel out as a possibility based on the Bible.
bigmoose
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Yes. If I were China and I wanted a distraction to move on Taiwan ... and entangle the west... this would fit the bill.
Hidden
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This seems to be a massive development that could lead to Ezekiel 38. The last 2 years have been very heavy on stage-setting and the rapture is what will set everything into motion.
pixelpusher
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Meanwhile, as the theories fly, three special operative angels are rinsing and drying their neoprene at the pearly gates.
ChildofLight
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Underwater drone purchased or given to Russia by China? After all, lately it seems Russia and China getting cozy.
Did the US blow up the pipeline? Who would know? Wouldn't surprise me.I wonder if the US will be attacked now by those who assume the US blew up the pipelines. What a mess the world is in.
Neohistory
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Winter is coming, literally and spiritually to those who dwell on the earth after the Rapture
Revelation chapter 6 seems so close.
athenasius
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I was doing a little more digging today and some stuff came up about China and Xi, not directly connecting them, but here's the deal.
Xi was at an SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organization) meeting with Putin in Uzbeckistan 2 weeks ago (he's been in quarantine since which launched some internet rumours of a coup, but he showed his face yesterday so he is still top dog in China)
At that meeting he was distinctly cool to Putin about many things, but the one thing he seemed enthusiastic about was putting some indirect pressure on for Putin to finish up in Ukraine. The speculation from the source I was listening to makes perfect sense. He said that Xi wants Putin to become more embroiled in war in Ukraine and with the West.
This helps China in 2 ways
1 China wants to lead the SCO rather than being second fiddle to Putin's leadership of this very important organization which I call NATO FOR NASTIES.
2 This would provide a distraction for the West while China takes over Taiwan.
So Xi wants a war between Russia and the West, to weaken Russia significantly without actually looking like they are pushing for that. Xi talks a lot about supporting Russia's needs and China is dependant on Russia for a lot of trade (and Russia gets a lot of currency for oil they send to China)
BUT Xi is actually facing his 3rd term in office. They don't have elections per se, but he needs the endorsement backing of the CCP- Chinese Communist Party. The CCP would love it if Xi could finally make good on annexing Taiwan.
And Xi is more dependant economically on the west so he is terrified of sanctions. Because his economy is in DEEP trouble and sinking fast so he WANTS TO EMBROIL THE WEST in the war in the Ukraine with Russia.
This provides him with cover to move in on Taiwan.
There IS SOME motive for China to try and move things along into a hot war between Russia and the West/NATO
Still not my top pick for the suspect lineup-- they may simply be egging Russia on. CNN today https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/28/politics/nord-stream-pipeline-leak-russian-navy-ships/index.html was claiming that Russia has multiple reasons to blow up the pipeline, and of course there is the video evidence of Biden and Nuland predicting that they would shut the Nordstreams down.
However I wouldn't put it past China to have done it so that Russia and the US point fingers at each other and the rhetoric gets heated because that is exactly the situation today.
An ideal smokescreen for them to act on Taiwan. Russia and America are weakened, letting China soar to the top of the heap in the SCO (NATO for Nasties).
A little more about that Nato for Nasties meeting-- the Stans-- former USSR countries all members of the SCO are all worried that what's happened to Ukraine means they are next so they are siding against Russia
and China is guess what---
Egging them on!
China is definitely stirring the pot here. But whether they blew the pipes up nobody knows yet. China is definitely benefiting from the increased war talk and finger pointing.
athenasius
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Oh and what's really interesting is that source was over a week old. He didn't know about the pipeline explosions because they hadn't happened yet, when he was covering that SCO meeting in Uzbekistan. He was simply noticing that China seemed to want war to escalate quickly between Putin and Ukraine and NATO/the West, specifically America. His info about China is like Caroline Glick about Israel, full of interesting details that barely make the news if at all or are quickly downplayed. I won't list him because like Caroline, I listen on YouTube so it's not a published source that I can link to or quote from. Caroline has plenty of articles in JPost and others to link to so I mention her re Israel but his stuff is particularly good on China.
I wondered about the possibility of Israel doing it as well. I'm not saying they did, but they will benefit from the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines.
athenasius
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No, they can't. The Bible, Ezekiel 38 talks about Israel being invaded by Gog of Magog (Russia) along with others in an alliance (Turkey, Iran and some others)
Israel is completely blindsided by that invasion. They aren't ready for it, they don't expect it, and it catches them completely and literally off guard.
If they had ever attacked Russia they would be expecting a response. They would be on guard from an attack out of the north by Russia.
The Bible is abundantly clear that they are not expecting any attack from Russia.
Which means that they have not done anything to harm Russia in any serious way.
If that doesn't convince you there's another reason, economics.
Israel's entire Natural Gas production is much much smaller than the current Nordstream 1 full volume. They don't need to destroy a pipeline for profits because they are already selling everything they pull out of the Gas Fields. Europe is already buying everything they can long before this explosion.
Israel is not set up for more production nor are their gas fields the same size as Russia's. They are trying desperately to ramp up production since Europe got cut off from a lot of the Nordstream gas earlier this year. They have absolutely NO economic reason to blow up the pipes. They can't keep up with the demand as it is.
The people that do have an economic reason might be the owners of the new Baltic pipeline near the Nordstreams that is bringing North Sea gas from Norway over to the rest of Europe.
That apparently opened the day before the explosions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe
"The Baltic Pipe is a natural gas pipeline under construction between the Norwegian sector of the North Sea and Poland. It is a strategic infrastructure project to create a new gas supply corridor. When completed in the end of November 2022 (already partially operational since 26 September), it will transport natural gas from the North Sea to Poland via Denmark at up to 10 billion cubic metres (350 billion cubic feet) per year. The project is being developed by the Danish gas and electricity transmission system operator Energinet and the Polish gas transmission system operator Gaz-System. The project is recognised as a project of common interest of the European Union."
The EU is behind that pipe. I'm not sure who all the shareholders are, or who owns it specifically or who funded it.
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Chaz R.
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I agreed 100%
You make some good points here. Thank you for the insight.
athenasius
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you're welcome. It gave me a chance to quickly look at the Baltic Pipe so I went to their site to look further. https://www.baltic-pipe.eu/about/partners/
and the EU Denmark and Poland govts are the main owners and sponsors. If you go to the bottom of that page, you'll see those 3 at the bottom.
The EU was particularly interesting to spot there.
athenasius
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I think you might be interested in the EU funding that new Baltic Pipeline owned by Denmark and Poland.
that opened on Sept 26. The pipes were blown up on the same day. As the OP said. But when you factor in the EU funding it, suddenly it gives the EU a big reason to blow up Nordstream 1&2 especially if they want to eliminate Russia completely as a supplier for gas in EU in future.
I'm always interested in what the EU is up to, because of the possibilities to the future One World Govt which they are a proto type of. They cherish all the symbols of the tower of Babel and they look like a power base after the Rapture. They may in fact be the revived Roman Empire.
And their leaders and committees are growing in power. Look at what the EU did to Hungary declaring that they are no longer a democracy because the EU didn't like who they elected as leader.
So far the main suspects not in any particular order:
Ukraine
Russia
America
China
The EU -especially Poland and Denmark.
Did anyone notice the bubbles on the ocean surface above the leaks? There is only one thing that can “make the sea boil like a pot”. He is described in detail in Job Chapter 42. He can snip the pipelines as easily as a wire cutter. He may or may not know that he already has the world guessing at multiple culprits and stirring the pot of war. Only God can stop him.
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