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Wowee.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61547729
The Presbyterian Church of Scotland (largest denomination) has voted to allow same sex marriages in the church by 274 votes to 136. Sign of the times.![]()
Usually visit a Church of Scotland when I'm on summer holiday (vacation) in the Scottish Highlands. Now I wonder whether to do that anymore.
It makes me feel sad for many reasons. There are a lot of small places in the Highlands where a Church of Scotland is the only church in town. There will be people in those congregations, faithful believers, many of them elderly who have seen their church over many years move away from a biblical foundation. I wonder what they'll do? I hope the Holy Spirit will encourage them to remain faithful in these last days. But it may be a lonely road for them, whatever they choose. God Bless![]()
We have a lot of online viewers at Calvary Chapel.We are currently out of our home state staying near a medical center where my dh had eye surgery. Since we were unable to visit a local church in this area, we turned on slbc.org to see Andy Woods preach an excellent sermon out of Genesis. We would have also viewed the Sunday School portion, but we were very tired and fell asleep
Perhaps Andy's livestream would be helpful for you in your situation. Some Christian leaders are thinking that the Rapture may be the next big event to impact the whole world. I am thinking along those lines myself.![]()
I suspect there is. Paul could get a little rugged in spots. When I first started listening to the Bible on cassette tapes in the 80s I laughed out loud in some of the epistles. I'd grown up on them, but reading them and then HEARING them opened my ears to Paul's sense of humour. He was ever blunt and to the point.I have to believe there is room for us more caustic Believers too. Well, at least I hope there is grace for us.
I agree. So many 'famous' pastors often come down on the wrong side of issues. Not sure why, unless they're trying not to alienate a portion of their followers, i.e., donors. I'll take a solid biblical pastor any day who does not have another agenda. He just wants to teach God's Word, because he loves God and loves His people. You won't find skinny jeans, black leather jackets, turtleneck shirts, or a cool haircut sitting on a tall bar stool in the footlights on a large stage with this guy. He's a modern day Peter or Paul. Some people just call him Andy, and here's what he teachesI think it also has to do with the celebrity pastor culture.
I suspect there is. Paul could get a little rugged in spots. When I first started listening to the Bible on cassette tapes in the 80s I laughed out loud in some of the epistles. I'd grown up on them, but reading them and then HEARING them opened my ears to Paul's sense of humour. He was ever blunt and to the point.
What on earth is big Eva???? I gotta go for tonight, catch this tomorrow.
Big Eva I think is the Christian version of "The Deep State". It's all the very big names and they're so much better than us regular Christians and they all scratch each other's backs. I don't know. I'm not actually part of "The Gospel Coalition" crowd so I'm kind of looking at it as an outsider but it seems it's more about having connections and being political (church politics as well as trying to turn Evangelicals into Democrats) and they think because they're so famous they don't have to answer to anybody. If you go against the grain in those circles your career is essentially ended. One of the bloggers I follow had so many people call his pastor and complain about his "divisive tone" that his pastor was forced by the denomination to ask him to step down as an elder. I think it also has to do with the celebrity pastor culture.
Hello Ghoti! Yes I think this is the case in the Church of Scotland. The denomination own the church buildings, some congregations defected over issues before and were evicted from the church buildings. I hope this does not act as a brake on some congregations standing for the truth, leaving and forming independent assemblies. But Lord have mercy, if a person is in a church that celebrates a marriage between two people of the same gender, surely it's obvious that the church itself has defected from the truth. It's sad when most church members in a country can vote for evil thinking it's good, we must surely be on the verge of the Lord's return. What else could happen now? God BlessIn contrast, some other denominations own all church property so it's harder and more painful for a congregation to leave the denomination and there's a much bigger stick for the denomination to hold over congregations.
Two male neighbors of mine got married a couple of years back. I attended the ceremony. I always get queasy at my stomach to see 2 same sexers kiss. I thought about kissing my wife at our wedding. I truly enjoyed that about as much as seeing 2 men kiss made me sick.
Big Eva I think is the Christian version of "The Deep State". It's all the very big names and they're so much better than us regular Christians and they all scratch each other's backs. I don't know. I'm not actually part of "The Gospel Coalition" crowd so I'm kind of looking at it as an outsider but it seems it's more about having connections and being political (church politics as well as trying to turn Evangelicals into Democrats) and they think because they're so famous they don't have to answer to anybody. If you go against the grain in those circles your career is essentially ended. One of the bloggers I follow had so many people call his pastor and complain about his "divisive tone" that his pastor was forced by the denomination to ask him to step down as an elder. I think it also has to do with the celebrity pastor culture.
I agree. So many 'famous' pastors often come down on the wrong side of issues. Not sure why, unless they're trying not to alienate a portion of their followers, i.e., donors. I'll take a solid biblical pastor any day who does not have another agenda. He just wants to teach God's Word, because he loves God and loves His people. You won't find skinny jeans, black leather jackets, turtleneck shirts, or a cool haircut sitting on a tall bar stool in the footlights on a large stage with this guy. He's a modern day Peter or Paul. Some people just call him Andy, and here's what he teaches![]()
Yes. It has reached the stage that many churches are supporting so many weird causes I have no idea what they are going to do next. The only thing that seems to be a surprise in a church is if they preach the bible. It must be near the rapture when you can go to a hundred churches and find them all off at the foundation.Sadly, it has morphed into something quite different
Yes. It has reached the stage that many churches are supporting so many weird causes I have no idea what they are going to do next. The only thing that seems to be a surprise in a church is if they preach the bible. It must be near the rapture when you can go to a hundred churches and find them all off at the foundation.
One weird thing I thought would never be surpassed was a Church of Scotland in Inverness which exhibited a bible which had been purposefully vandalized by members of the LGBTQ community, writing their names or expletives in the margins to show they were no longer excluded: https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/church-shows-lgbt-support-187195/
When that story first broke I thought it was fake news. Surely no Christian Church could invite trans people in to deface a bible! But it was true