Canadian civil rights org fires back at Justin Trudeau over decision to invoke Emergencies Act: 'Threatens our democracy'

ChildofLight

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The Canadian Civil Liberties Union published a defiant message condemning Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for using increasingly powerful methods to quell Freedom Convoy protests.

What is the background?

Trudeau announced Monday that Canada's federal government would, for the first time in its history, invoke the Emergencies Act to stop the protests and silence those advocating for freedom. Invoking the Emergencies Act gives Trudeau enormous power to end the politically inconvenient protests.

According to Politico, Trudeau emphasized his conviction that the protests are no longer "non-violent," although Trudeau did not explain how the peaceful protests had become violent. Trudeau also claimed he would not limit Canadians' freedoms of speech, protest, or peaceful assembly — despite invoking the Emergencies Act to do exactly that.

As part of Canada's expanded efforts to crack down on the protests, the Washington Post explained that Canada's "money-laundering and terrorism financing rules will also be widened to cover crowdfunding sites such as GoFundMe and GiveSendGo and payment service providers that have been used to funnel funds, including cryptocurrencies, to the protesters."

Additionally, Canadian authorities will crack down on businesses that own the trucks being used in the protests, which could include revoking insurance policies or freezing corporate bank accounts.

What did the CCLU say?

The CCLU — which is essentially the Canadian version of the American Civil Liberties Union and is, therefore, by no means conservative — warned that Trudeau is threatening Canadian democracy by using government power to stop Canadians from exercising freedom of speech.

"The federal government has not met the threshold necessary to invoke the Emergencies Act," the CCLU explained. "This law creates a high and clear standard for good reason: the Act allows government to bypass ordinary democratic processes. This standard has not been met."

The Emergencies Act, according to the CCLU, can only be invoked when no other legal redress allows Canada to protect its sovereignty.

"The Emergencies Act can only be invoked when a situation 'seriously threatens the ability of the Government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Canada' & when the situation 'cannot be effectively dealt with under any other law of Canada,'" the CCLU explained. "Governments regularly deal with difficult situations, and do so using powers granted to them by democratically elected representatives. Emergency legislation should not be normalized. It threatens our democracy and our civil liberties."

Canadians who are angry over draconian COVID restrictions, of course, are not a threat to Canadian sovereignty. They do, however, constitute a threat to the Canadian elite and those in government who have been exercising fierce control over the lives of Canadian citizens for the past two years.

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depserv

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There is much truth in the saying that the pen is mightier than the sword, and that truth is not lost on those who want to rule over us. So it is no surprise that those who have long tried to disarm us of the sword would do the same with the pen.

This applies to all forms of power, since ultimately mechanisms of power are what the pen and the sword are. It applies to things like wealth too for example. So it is no surprise that those who support gun and information control also support socialism.

Canada is a shining monument to this fundamental truth. And it's a monument that we in America should take notice of, since it's ahead of us on the march to despotism.
 

athenasius

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I'm always amazed at how these globalist elites like Trudeau are seemingly blind to the fact that they're acting just like Hitler and the Nazis did in 1930s Germany. Then again, maybe they know exactly what they're doing and the real plan is to actually be like the 1930s Nazis.
Trudeau's dad Pierre raised his boys with a deep love and appreciation for Cuba's Fidel Castro, Russian communism and Chinese communism. Justin has openly shared that same love and appreciation. How those "leaders" can manage their economies, and lead their respective countries with a "firm" hand.

The only difference between daddy and his boys, is that Justin did something Trudeau Sr couldn't do-- payoff the media. Back in Trudeau Sr's day, the firestorm would have consumed all political hopes for the Trudeau dynasty forever. But now, as I pointed out in another thread, the payoff meant Justin won the last election which he should have lost by all normal accounts.
 

MapleLeaf

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If the Charter and the law meant anything anymore none of this would be happening. I do know quite a few people who thought I was spewing nonsense who are now realizing the trouble we're in. Freedom is precious and we still have more than most have had throughout history so we still have a chance to speak up. I was speaking with my mother on how we've been complacent and forgot to appreciate what we had. Maybe we wouldn't have given it up so easily if we had remembered how blessed we were. We're just as human and fallible as the people in third-world dictatorships so of course it could happen here.

I honestly feel a little numb to it. I know Who goes before me and I'm not really planning on changing my life all that much, if at all. I just don't care. Loving others and linking arms with them is really the best means of facing this. Their power comes from dividing us. I want to paint "honk honk" on my house. I still have hope that God can use this to wake people up and that pushback comes from the right places. He will give out justice in His time and way. My main focus is on continuing to protect my kids. They don't know about the pandemic (even though I am recovering from Covid and they had it too...it just wasn't worth making a big deal out of) and I'm certainly not telling them about the Emergency Act. We've been going to church normally and seeing friends and going wherever we were allowed and just trying to keep their childhood innocent and happy.
I'm always amazed at how these globalist elites like Trudeau are seemingly blind to the fact that they're acting just like Hitler and the Nazis did in 1930s Germany. Then again, maybe they know exactly what they're doing and the real plan is to actually be like the 1930s Nazis.
They know. Why else would they be projecting so fiercely that those against them are the Nazis? I grew up on the stories of my family under both Stalin and Hitler. Can't believe I'm witnessing it. I know what my family risked and sacrificed so their descendants wouldn't have to face it. It isn't even a generation later. Let's pray it doesn't get that bad.
 

mattfivefour

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Could some of our Canadian members tell me if Canada has anything that is like our Bill of Rights here in the United States? And if so, does this Emergency Act suspend all of those rights? I'm just trying to understand this situation better.
Yes. And, in effect, yes.

@athenasius, it is clear something needs to be done with the Canadian electoral map. The fact that Trudeau's Liberal Party with less than 33% of the total votes got 160 seats while the Conservative Party won a higher percentage of the total votes yet only got 119 seats shows each citizen's vote did not count equally. If riding boundaries had been drawn properly, the Liberals and Conservatives would have had almost equal numbers of seats. For a party with the support of less than one third of the citizens of Canada to be able to rule dictatorially as though it had majority support speaks volumes about a major flaw in the Canadian electoral system, imho.
 

MapleLeaf

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We have the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The entire lockdown has broken many paragraphs before the pokey-poke came along. Unfortunately, we have the notwithstanding clause which allows our leaders to have the wiggle room to supersede the Charter "within reason" or something like that. It's not as binding as the Bill of Rights. The Emergency Act was made to replace the War Measures Act though I understand it is still to be subject to the Charter. But it is essentially martial law. Like the Bill of Rights, the Charter was meant to protect individuals from mob rule in times of crisis but now the 'crisis' is being used as an excuse to override the Charter. We aren't really taught civics in school so I think a lot of people honestly don't know their rights so didn't even notice the switch from "the Charter of Rights and Freedoms" to the "Charter of Privileges and Consequences". I see too many people saying no civil liberties are being breached even with the frozen bank accounts. They don't understand the monster that has been unleashed will be used against them too.

I am seeing a lot of political pushback and even some journalists acting baffled so we'll see. I believe the Parliament has to vote on the Emergency Act in 7 days. Trudeau has very low popularily (about 16% right now) and has a minority government so all depends on the NDP. Their current leader has proven to be a lapdog for Trudeau. Traditionally, the NDP have said they were about the working class and unions but they so far have proven useless to that base during this time. We'll see what happens.
 

Wings Like Eagles

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Could some of our Canadian members tell me if Canada has anything that is like our Bill of Rights here in the United States? And if so, does this Emergency Act suspend all of those rights? I'm just trying to understand this situation better.
Canada has the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Like the Patriot Act in the States (put in, courtesy of Cheney and company), those designated as "terrorists" don't have any rights under the Emergency Act. That is how they could lock up innocent January 6 people (some of whom were merely standing on the Capitol grounds) without even a blink and I would guess that they will try to do the same to the truckers. We must pray for all who have been unjustly imprisoned--present and future. We are at a serious crossroad.
 

athenasius

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Could some of our Canadian members tell me if Canada has anything that is like our Bill of Rights here in the United States? And if so, does this Emergency Act suspend all of those rights? I'm just trying to understand this situation better.
I don't think the Canadian Charter of Rights is as good a document as the US Bill of Rights. My opinion here, and here is why:
Here is the charter
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/const/page-12.html
Here is the official explanation of the charter in actual use:
https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-h...d/guide-canadian-charter-rights-freedoms.html

The first thing to notice is that the Charter has some pretty vague limits that can broaden to do whatever the current govt of the day wishes it to do. That is right at the top in article 1 where it states:

"Rights and freedoms in Canada
1 The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
"

I hope you catch that beautiful exemption -- this relies on "reasonable limits" as determined by those limits being 'demonstrably justified' by the govt at the time.

So right there, no charter right supercedes the govts right to take that right away if the current need seems "reasonable".

Since reasonable is not defined, nor is demonstrably justified defined, that means the Charter is meaningless if you wanted a document that could stand the test of time and different govts, with widely differing ideas of what is reasonable etc.

This is why they can do what they want regardless of the Charter with respect to the recent plague situation.

But Trudeau didn't even bend the Charter with respect to the truckers.

He simply sidestepped it by invoking the Emergencies Act, formerly known as the War Measures Act which suspends all rights and freedoms for the time while that Act is in use.

So even the wimpy worthless, meaningless Charter is set aside.

And as Trudeau has pointed out it offers him an unlimited ability for search and seizure to anyone protesting at the borders, govt institutions etc, OR OFFERING ASSISTANCE SUCH AS FOOD OR FUEL TO THE PROTESTERS!!! up to 6 years in jail as well.
 

athenasius

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Yes. And, in effect, yes.

@athenasius, it is clear something needs to be done with the Canadian electoral map. The fact that Trudeau's Liberal Party with less than 33% of the total votes got 160 seats while the Conservative Party won a higher percentage of the total votes yet only got 119 seats shows each citizen's vote did not count equally. If riding boundaries had been drawn properly, the Liberals and Conservatives would have had almost equal numbers of seats. For a party with the support of less than one third of the citizens of Canada to be able to rule dictatorially as though it had majority support speaks volumes about a major flaw in the Canadian electoral system, imho.
You are absolutely correct. Gerrymandering and pandering to the left and to Quebec has had a lopsided effect. There is absolutely no way he should have won anything beyond his usual downtown Toronto liberal base. And maybe picked up some seats from the NDP because they were on a bit of a downward spiral for a few years. The Atlantic provinces are a hot mess of leftist politics.

Unfortunately the Conservative party is prone to fracturing and we are in the usual backstabbing cycle.

For Americans this is why the Reform Party got traction if you've ever heard of it-- it started as a Western Separation party, then Preston Manning pulled it into a Right wing alternative for Canada,

but then it folded back into the Conservatives when they decided to be conservative and reasonably right wing a while back. They realized they were becoming irrelevant on the right wing.

That return to right wing values lasted a hot minute.

Our conservative (right wing) voters are not well represented by our "conservative" politicos. It's sort of like the RINO problem in the States but in Canada there are constant leadership reviews and votes so no leader gets to stay long unless they have a baked in loyal set of party faithful supporters like Stephen Harper had.

And that has it's problems too, because once Canada tires of a particular political leader-- as usually happens after the 3rd or 4rth election, their party has a flip flop and spends years, sometimes decades in the doldrums trying to decide on a leader that everyone can support and who is able to win elections-- those last 2 conditions aren't always together.

So we are on the downside in the right wing in Canada, recovering from many good years under Stephen Harper, without any fresh leaders being nurtured during that time period.

The party that should represent the right wing, is divided and recently elected yet another new leader, and are less concerned about mounting an opposition to Trudeau than they are about consolidating their power bases.
 

MapleLeaf

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[...]

And that has it's problems too, because once Canada tires of a particular political leader-- as usually happens after the 3rd or 4rth election, their party has a flip flop and spends years, sometimes decades in the doldrums trying to decide on a leader that everyone can support and who is able to win elections-- those last 2 conditions aren't always together.

So we are on the downside in the right wing in Canada, recovering from many good years under Stephen Harper, without any fresh leaders being nurtured during that time period.

The party that should represent the right wing, is divided and recently elected yet another new leader, and are less concerned about mounting an opposition to Trudeau than they are about consolidating their power bases.
This is so true. I knew it was a recent problem but last year, for homeschool, we made a timeline of the Prime Ministers and I realized that the Conservatives have ALWAYS had this problem. They had the first-ever prime minister in John A MacDonald and he was a fairly good and strong one too. But then they went through an endless cycle of short-term leaders and short-term election cycles and minority governments. I mean, they did have several leaders DIE while on the job (including Sir John A MacDonald) but I'm not sure how the party can correct a problem that has been inherent to the party since the beginning. With places like Toronto essentially controlling the entire election, the Conservatives keep pandering to them without winning seats and alienating their base. I admired Stephen Harper but, by the end, I thought he had grown a little big for his britches and he still had too much of the globalist slant.
 

athenasius

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This is so true. I knew it was a recent problem but last year, for homeschool, we made a timeline of the Prime Ministers and I realized that the Conservatives have ALWAYS had this problem. They had the first-ever prime minister in John A MacDonald and he was a fairly good and strong one too. But then they went through an endless cycle of short-term leaders and short-term election cycles and minority governments. I mean, they did have several leaders DIE while on the job (including Sir John A MacDonald) but I'm not sure how the party can correct a problem that has been inherent to the party since the beginning. With places like Toronto essentially controlling the entire election, the Conservatives keep pandering to them without winning seats and alienating their base. I admired Stephen Harper but, by the end, I thought he had grown a little big for his britches and he still had too much of the globalist slant.
You would almost think that Satan intended it that way! Tongue in cheek here, but it makes sense because from the get go we seem to have tilted into socialism without opposition.

However I did notice a long patch after Trudeau Sr left, with the Liberals in a complete melt down cycle, but again, the Conservatives were so badly equipped they were unable to take full advantage.
 

MapleLeaf

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Jordan Peterson is going absolutely mental about Trudeau LOL
Peterson has a very similar persona to my father so I do find it very humourous. When Peterson "woke up" it gave me hope my dad would too and he (my dad) has FINALLY come around to admitting that something nefarious is going on. I heard that Peterson no longer considers himself an atheist but I don't know what that means. I pray he become saved. I did love his rants at Gerald Butts (he is a personal friend of Trudeau and had worked as an advisor until he was forced to resign yet still seems to have undue influence). Peterson went on how he had been threatened by more powerful people than Butts so he (Butts) could bring anything he had at Peterson and Peterson would gladly meet him in court. LOL Peterson is the epitome of the people who just wanted to be left alone now rising up.
 

DanLMP

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Would it be okay at this point to mention that Trudeau is a graduate of the WEF Young World Leaders School (or whatever they call it)?

Trudeau and Macron, both graduates, seem to be parroting the same talking points when they describe their citizens who refuse to knuckle under.
 
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