endofdays
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just had this burning question
Can Angels Die?
Can Angels Die?
Can Angels Die?
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Goodboy
Won't Be Long Now!
Eternal death for anyone or anything is not non existence, it is separation from God. Death as we know it for people, is separation from earthly life. Can Angels die (be eternally separated from God)? Yes, a third of the Angels already died (are eternally separated from God).
RonJohnSilver
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I don't think angels die in the sense we normally think of dying. Angels are not eternal since they all had a definite beginning, that is when God created them. They will all, though, live in eternity, either with believers in Heaven or with the unbelievers in Hell.
Brother Albert R.
Jesus loved us and said we should Love our enemies
Thank you for this question "Endofdays"
...I would never have thought about it, I would just have taken for granted that everyone knew the answer. But it is still a great question, especially in light of the first conversation the devil had with mankind. It was to make them believe that they would not die after their disobedience to God, "you will not surly die" satan said. Satan was not dead when he made that statement but he was most definitely dead in sin. So he could have used himself as an example, to Eve, as one who could disobey God and yet still exist. This question caused me to ponder that original conversation Eve had with satan, and think about it from a new perspective. So, thank you for this question "Endofdays"
God bless you all,
Albert
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InsuranceGuy
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That is a great question. Were they created immortal? I wonder if they can die in battle, like when fighting the fallen Angels. Seems like a never ending war if none of them could die.
Spartan Sprinter 1
Formerly known as Shaun
I remember reading that we will judge angels !!!!
But i'm not sure if it's just for Satan and his fallen angels or whether we assist in judging all of them ?
But i'm not sure if it's just for Satan and his fallen angels or whether we assist in judging all of them ?
endofdays
Well-Known Member
I heard that as well
RonJohnSilver
Well-Known Member
Angels are immortal, not eternal. They all have a beginning, but none will die. I have that answer in one of my commentaries, so its not just my thought. I'll look for it.
RonJohnSilver
Well-Known Member
If it's true that we have our own 'guardian angel', then I'll give mine a high mark. Kept me safe for many years and, I'm sorry to say, any mistakes committed were my own fault.
Can angels die? Can angels be hurt?"
Answer: We have many more questions about angels and demons than we have answers. Many times we have to make guesses and assumptions based on a few biblical facts. Frank Peretti’s popular novel This Present Darkness had angelic beings crossing swords and demons disappearing in puffs of red smoke when they were slashed in two. It made for a fun read, but there was more imagination than biblical precision in Peretti’s pages.
Angels are essentially spiritual beings without bodies. Hebrews 1:14 calls them ministering spirits. When they appear to people, they normally are seen with bodies. Sometimes they appear as ordinary men (Hebrews 13:2) or incredibly glorious men (Daniel 10:16) and sometimes as fantastic creatures (Isaiah 6:2; Ezekiel 1:4–14). However, since angels do not have bodies, these forms are only manifestations in material/visible form. They do not represent what the angel actually “looks like” because a spirit is essentially invisible, at least to the physical eye. Angels sometimes appear with wings in Scripture and are often depicted with wings in art, but physical wings are used to move physical bodies through physical air, and again, angels are spirit beings.
Since angels do not have physical bodies, they cannot be hurt in the sense of suffering physical harm in the same way a human being with a body could be hurt. Likewise, angels cannot die in that sense, either. Physical death is something that humans experience when their bodies cease working and their spirits depart from their bodies. Since angels do not have physical bodies, they cannot experience physical death.
It is possible that angels do encounter some perils in the spiritual world, perils that are beyond our normal experience or comprehension. An angel was sent with an answer to Daniel’s prayer but was detained by “the Prince of Persia” (a fallen angel/demon) and prevented from coming to Daniel for 21 days (Daniel 10:12–13). How was the angel detained? We are not told. Even though they are spirits, angels are not omnipresent, so they do have some kind of localized existence that apparently can be contained. When angels “fight” with demons, do they get injured by each other? Perhaps, but we are simply not told what this type of fighting entails. When we are in battle with spiritual forces, we do not use physical weapons but the armor of God detailed in Ephesians 6:10–18.
If demons are fallen angels, then we know that angels can suffer. When Jesus cast demons out, they sometimes feared that Jesus was going to torture or torment them (see Matthew 8:29; Luke 8:28). Legion begged Jesus not to send them into the Abyss, a holding place for fallen angels/demons (Luke 8:21). If they feared going there, they must be able to suffer in some way. At the final judgment, all of the fallen angels will be cast into the lake of fire (Matthew 25:41), which is the “second death” (Revelation 20:14). There, fallen angels will experience spiritual death, which is defined as separation from God. How can a spiritual being be tormented by flames of fire? We don’t know. As spiritual beings who were meant to enjoy fellowship with God, isolation from God will result in the worst kind of torture.
As mentioned at the beginning of this article, we have many more questions than answers. As beings bound by time and space, we have difficulty imagining the experience of spiritual beings.
https://www.gotquestions.org/can-angels-die-be-hurt.html
Answer: We have many more questions about angels and demons than we have answers. Many times we have to make guesses and assumptions based on a few biblical facts. Frank Peretti’s popular novel This Present Darkness had angelic beings crossing swords and demons disappearing in puffs of red smoke when they were slashed in two. It made for a fun read, but there was more imagination than biblical precision in Peretti’s pages.
Angels are essentially spiritual beings without bodies. Hebrews 1:14 calls them ministering spirits. When they appear to people, they normally are seen with bodies. Sometimes they appear as ordinary men (Hebrews 13:2) or incredibly glorious men (Daniel 10:16) and sometimes as fantastic creatures (Isaiah 6:2; Ezekiel 1:4–14). However, since angels do not have bodies, these forms are only manifestations in material/visible form. They do not represent what the angel actually “looks like” because a spirit is essentially invisible, at least to the physical eye. Angels sometimes appear with wings in Scripture and are often depicted with wings in art, but physical wings are used to move physical bodies through physical air, and again, angels are spirit beings.
Since angels do not have physical bodies, they cannot be hurt in the sense of suffering physical harm in the same way a human being with a body could be hurt. Likewise, angels cannot die in that sense, either. Physical death is something that humans experience when their bodies cease working and their spirits depart from their bodies. Since angels do not have physical bodies, they cannot experience physical death.
It is possible that angels do encounter some perils in the spiritual world, perils that are beyond our normal experience or comprehension. An angel was sent with an answer to Daniel’s prayer but was detained by “the Prince of Persia” (a fallen angel/demon) and prevented from coming to Daniel for 21 days (Daniel 10:12–13). How was the angel detained? We are not told. Even though they are spirits, angels are not omnipresent, so they do have some kind of localized existence that apparently can be contained. When angels “fight” with demons, do they get injured by each other? Perhaps, but we are simply not told what this type of fighting entails. When we are in battle with spiritual forces, we do not use physical weapons but the armor of God detailed in Ephesians 6:10–18.
If demons are fallen angels, then we know that angels can suffer. When Jesus cast demons out, they sometimes feared that Jesus was going to torture or torment them (see Matthew 8:29; Luke 8:28). Legion begged Jesus not to send them into the Abyss, a holding place for fallen angels/demons (Luke 8:21). If they feared going there, they must be able to suffer in some way. At the final judgment, all of the fallen angels will be cast into the lake of fire (Matthew 25:41), which is the “second death” (Revelation 20:14). There, fallen angels will experience spiritual death, which is defined as separation from God. How can a spiritual being be tormented by flames of fire? We don’t know. As spiritual beings who were meant to enjoy fellowship with God, isolation from God will result in the worst kind of torture.
As mentioned at the beginning of this article, we have many more questions than answers. As beings bound by time and space, we have difficulty imagining the experience of spiritual beings.
https://www.gotquestions.org/can-angels-die-be-hurt.html
I don't see it as the fallen angels dying in a war but being overpowered by God's army of angels so that they are overcome.
JSTyler
Well-Known Member
I really-really hope that mine has a strong sense of discretion. If not, I don't wanna ever overhear the water cooler conversations.
Spartan Sprinter 1
Formerly known as Shaun
Yes that's true but they are still judged, my question i guess more centred around whether the angels in heaven also get judged or if it's just the fallen angels
ByGod'sGrace
under His wings - Psalm 91:4
lol, I wouldn't want to hear those stories either:
"Today, 7 year old Melissa tried riding a cow...yeah, that was interesting. That cow didn't like it, and boy she took off running!! I caught little Melissa and she landed in some soft grass..."
If you grew up on a farm, chances are you really gave your guardian angel a workout...
That is a good question!
If the angels are still in heaven, why would they need to be judged? Or do more sin after we get there?
Salluz
Aspiring Man of God
Does judgment always have to be about sin? Christians face a judgment at the Bema seat, but we know our sins were already judged at the cross.
Oooo. Good point!
ByGod'sGrace
under His wings - Psalm 91:4
If I am supposed to judge my guardian angel, I will thank him for saving me from all those trees I fell out of when I was little, the trees I didn't smash into when sledding down steep, icy Missouri hills, and many other countless times that I should have died but a miracle from God saved me. All the glory will go back to GOD for His love for us. My human brain can't comprehend that amount of love.
RonJohnSilver
Well-Known Member
The Bema Seat Judgment has nothing to do with sin, it is totally, totally, about rewards or lack thereof.
Salluz
Aspiring Man of God
Yeah! That's what I was trying to get at