Building a PC

Jared

Well-Known Member
Has anyone here built their own PC? I've been watching videos of builds on youtube and thinking I'd like to try to build my own. I know some parts are a bit hard to come by lately, though I've found one site - NZXT - that offers everything in a step-by-step kit.

Happy to take any advice on this!
 

lamonte

Well-Known Member
I have built many PC in the last 30 years. The only time most people build their own PC today is for gaming. A good video card for a gaming PC could cost anywhere from $300 to $2000, then there is the CPU, Power supply, case, memory, Monitor, and other parts.

If you plan on using it for Word-processing, Spreadsheets, Emails, Internet, median photo uses, a Bible programs, you are better off buying a laptop. The best one to buy on the PC side would be one with the Intel CPU, make sure they have 512GB Solid State Drive or bigger. 16GB RAM. You can do some gaming on these units.

I think you can get a pretty good laptop PC for around $800 to $1000; I would not go below $600.

There is also Apple Mac’s---MacBook pro or MacBook air. They will play low in games. They are very stable compared to a PC, normally cost more. The PC has more software support, The mac come with a lot of free software that you will used.

If you have a Costco around they are a good place to buy, they have the best warranty and by far the cheapest.

Good luck
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
I've built a great many, for myself and for others. Now I just buy ready made laptops. A good time to build is during either Amazon prime days or the Christmas season sales as many components will be discounted during those sales.
 

GEOINTAnalyst

Well-Known Member
I built a few - the main thing I have found is how much are you willing to spend - money dictates performance
Example of higher end machine
1) Processor - AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX Processor 32-Core, 64-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor, without Cooler - about $2000 - if you want a liquid cooler for it say a Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM AIO Liquid CPU Cooler,240mm,Dual ML120 PRO RGB PWM Fans - add $439
2) Motherboard - ASUS ROG Zenith II Extreme Alpha TRX40 Gaming AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper sTRX4 EATX Motherboard with 16 Infineon Power Stages, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax), USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 and Aura Sync RGB - about $1900

As you can see you can drop some serious cash in no time for a high end machine

You can go to https://pcbuilder.net/ and build your machine just to get an idea of how much money on a custom build
 

Jared

Well-Known Member
I built a few - the main thing I have found is how much are you willing to spend - money dictates performance
Example of higher end machine
1) Processor - AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX Processor 32-Core, 64-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor, without Cooler - about $2000 - if you want a liquid cooler for it say a Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM AIO Liquid CPU Cooler,240mm,Dual ML120 PRO RGB PWM Fans - add $439
2) Motherboard - ASUS ROG Zenith II Extreme Alpha TRX40 Gaming AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper sTRX4 EATX Motherboard with 16 Infineon Power Stages, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax), USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 and Aura Sync RGB - about $1900

As you can see you can drop some serious cash in no time for a high end machine

You can go to https://pcbuilder.net/ and build your machine just to get an idea of how much money on a custom build
Do all motherboards cost that much? My budget would be $2k at most in all... Would use it mostly for gaming.

And thanks for the link! i'll definitely use that to help!

...Wow, using that site, I can see this might be way more out of my budget than anticipated....
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
Do all motherboards cost that much? My budget would be $2k at most in all... Would use it mostly for gaming.

And thanks for the link! i'll definitely use that to help!

...Wow, using that site, I can see this might be way more out of my budget than anticipated....

You can build a good system for $2000. I used to be able to build a really good system for under $1000 but since they don't sell nearly as many desktops along with the components that go with them the price has headed up, up, up. As I mentioned upthread, if you time the build around a time of the year when there are sales on components, you can build it for hundreds of dollars less than if you pay regular retail prices.
 

Monarch

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Depending on the video card you want, you may be better off buying a pre-built system to be honest. At least for Nvidia, the RTX 3070, 3080 and 3090 series cards are are currently going for over double their value and that isn't going to change anytime soon. The 3090's are selling for well over $2,000. Even a mid run series 3070 will set you back over $1,000. These are retail prices mind you, not ebay or 3rd market. That's if you can find them in stock somewhere.

Thank the crypto miners for this along with the chip shortages.
 

mattfivefour

Administrator
Staff member
I've built all of mine -- and some for other people-- for the past 20-25 years or so. I agree with those hothead who suggest it may be less expensive to buy a ready-made system. Even though memory and storage process continue to drop, the increased cost of chips these days plus the insane prices of video cards (thanks, as Monarch says, to crypto miners) means building your own is no longer cheaper than buying a mass-produced system. The only reason to build your own now (other than the satisfaction of doing so) is if you have very specific goals and so know the exact components you want to put together to get the result you want. Jmho
 

Jared

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I've built all of mine -- and some for other people-- for the past 20-25 years or so. I agree with those hothead who suggest it may be less expensive to buy a ready-made system. Even though memory and storage process continue to drop, the increased cost of chips these days plus the insane prices of video cards (thanks, as Monarch says, to crypto miners) means building your own is no longer cheaper than buying a mass-produced system. The only reason to build your own now (other than the satisfaction of doing so) is if you have very specific goals and so know the exact components you want to put together to get the result you want. Jmho
I think I'm starting to re-think this idea, honestly. I might try to look around other places, but then I'd be worried about being scammed or not being able to find parts. I might just start looking into a pre-built system,. possibly. And yeah, scalpers are seriously ruining tons of things (haven't seen any PS5's in ages).
 

lamonte

Well-Known Member
I am not much into gaming these days, I use my computer mostly for Desktop publishing, emails, searching the Internet. I like using E-Sword and Accordance Bible Programs. When it comes to reading the Word of God I use the physical Bible. I really enjoy the RaptureForm, the insight and fellowship I receive from you all. "Thanks"

Back to computers, one good thing about building your own is the knowledge you gain by doing it. It would be good you have someone that you could go to for help when you need it.
 

Jared

Well-Known Member
Just got a quick question for anyone - do you prefer Dell or HP? I've used both before, and have a couple I've been looking at for my next desktop. Thinking either to go with a Dell Inspiron 7700 or another HP Pavillion. I did have one ASUS before, but that was done in by having Norton on it when it had the huge Win10 update a few years back...
 

Mr T

Member
I've been building PC's for over 20 years. I have a good gaming PC that I built/upgraded at the end of 2019, just before everything went nuts. I don't use it anymore and have considered selling it, but I'm in Australia, so that isn't going to help you much.

I've used both Dell and HP. Had good runs with both brands. I use Linux for almost everything: Have done so since 1993. :nerd Typing this on an Acer (i5) laptop, running Debian 11.

Gaming PC runs Windows but, like I said, isn't getting used currently.
 

mattfivefour

Administrator
Staff member
I build my own desktop systems. But in job situations and when helping others I have worked on both Dells and HPs. I occasionally have run into some issues with both but overall have found them to be solid systems for the price. My wife really likes her HP laptop. I also have a lightweight Lenovo touchscreen laptop/tablet convertible that I really like for traveling.
 

GEOINTAnalyst

Well-Known Member
I've been building PC's for over 20 years. I have a good gaming PC that I built/upgraded at the end of 2019, just before everything went nuts. I don't use it anymore and have considered selling it, but I'm in Australia, so that isn't going to help you much.

I've used both Dell and HP. Had good runs with both brands. I use Linux for almost everything: Have done so since 1993. :nerd Typing this on an Acer (i5) laptop, running Debian 11.

Gaming PC runs Windows but, like I said, isn't getting used currently.
Yep I run Linux on all my machine I have Acer and Dell
Code:
[email protected]:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:
  Kernel: 5.13.0-23-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
  Desktop: LXQt 0.14.1 Distro: Expirion LXQt 20.04 2021.12.20 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire E5-575G v: V1.47 
  serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Acer model: Ironman_SK v: V1.47 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI [Legacy]: Insyde v: 1.47 date: 09/06/2018 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 24.6 Wh condition: 24.6/62.2 Wh (40%) 
  model: PANASONIC AS16B5J status: Full 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-7200U bits: 64 
  type: MT MCP arch: Amber Lake rev: 9 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 21599 
  Speed: 693 MHz min/max: 400/3100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 649 
  2: 700 3: 700 4: 676 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 620 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI Aspire E5-575G driver: i915 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GM108M [GeForce 940MX] 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: nvidia v: 470.86 
  bus ID: 01:00.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting,nvidia 
  unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce 940MX/PCIe/SSE2 
  v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 470.86 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI Acer Aspire E5-575G 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.13.0-23-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network 
  Adapter 
  vendor: Lite-On driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel port: 4000 
  bus ID: 03:00.0 
  IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI Acer Aspire E5-575G driver: r8169 
  v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 04:00.1 
  IF: enp4s0f1 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 3.87 TiB used: 681.98 GiB (17.2%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Micron model: 1100 MTFDDAV256TBN 
  size: 238.47 GiB 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: External USB 3.0 
  size: 3.64 TiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 233.24 GiB used: 19.46 GiB (8.3%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda5 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 46.5 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia 
  temp: 45 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 204 Uptime: 1h 35m Memory: 7.64 GiB 
  used: 1.64 GiB (21.4%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: 
  gcc: 9.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.17 inxi: 3.0.38
 

Mr T

Member
Code:
System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-10-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: GNOME 3.38.6
           Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire E5-551G v: V1.08 serial: <filter>
           Mobo: Acer model: EA50_KV v: V1.08 serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: Insyde v: 1.08 date: 08/22/2014
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 51.7 Wh condition: 51.7/55.9 Wh (92%) model: SANYO AL14A32 status: Full
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: AMD FX-7500 Radeon R7 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Steamroller rev: 1
           L2 cache: 2 MiB
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 16768
           Speed: 1098 MHz min/max: 1100/2100 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1098 2: 1098 3: 1098 4: 1098
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R6/R7 Graphics] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
           driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.0
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Opal XT [Radeon R7 M265/M365X/M465] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
           driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0
           Device-3: Chicony HD WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus ID: 3-3:3
           Display: wayland server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: gnome-shell driver: loaded: ati,vesa
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD KAVERI (DRM 2.50.0 5.10.0-10-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes
Audio:     Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kaveri HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.1
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
           bus ID: 00:14.2
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-10-amd64
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169
           v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 02:00.1
           IF: enp2s0f1 state: down mac: <filter>
           Device-2: Broadcom BCM43142 802.11b/g/n vendor: Lite-On driver: wl v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 03:00.0
           IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth: Device-1: Lite-On BCM43142A0 type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus ID: 5-5:3
           Report: ID: hci0 state: up running pscan iscan bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 address: <filter>
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 111.8 GiB used: 87.69 GiB (78.4%)
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WDS120G2G0A-00JH30 size: 111.8 GiB temp: 40 C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 105.67 GiB used: 87.69 GiB (83.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:      ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 3.93 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda5
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 46.6 C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
           GPU: device: radeon temp: 46.0 C device: radeon temp: 49.0 C
Info:      Processes: 227 Uptime: 14h 58m Memory: 14.6 GiB used: 4.98 GiB (34.1%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers:
           gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 2491 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.01

Not quite as "bleeding edge" as yours, but it gets the job done... :cool:
 
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