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TheRedeemed

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The European Union is “open” to a two-year Brexit delay, chief negotiator Michel Barnier has confirmed.

In a letter to the Westminster leaders of the SNP, Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru, SDLP, Green Party and Alliance Party, Mr Barnier said the option of an extension to the Brexit transition period is available if the UK wants it.

But the UK’s chief negotiator David Frost told MPs the “firm policy” of the Government remains not to extend beyond the end of the year.

The leaders of these parties had written to Mr Barnier on May 15 calling for a two-year extension to be agreed between the UK and the EU amid a negotiation deadlock.

The SNP’s Westminster leader Ian Blackford welcomed the letter and called on Boris Johnson to accept the offer to help protect the economy during the coronavirus pandemic.

The Brexit transition began when the UK legally left the EU on January 31 and is due to conclude at the end of the year.

Mr Frost told the Commons Committee on the Future Relationship with the European Union on Wednesday: “That is the firm policy of the Government, that we will not extend the transition period and if asked we would not agree to it.”

In his letter, Mr Barnier said: “Such an extension of up to one or two years can be agreed jointly by the two parties.

“The European Union has always said that we remain open on this matter.

Never ending isnt it.
This, as it transpires, was a request made by the opposition while Boris and Dominic Cummings were both laid low by covid-19. They sneakily wrote to Barnier asking him to put a written request to the UK gov, to make it look better for Britain in that she wasn’t asking for the extension and therefore not backing down on the original stance of not asking to extend.

Some Tory MP’s were in favour of this too, so looks like Boris will have some weeding and sackings to attend to as well.

The feeling the opposition had was that with Boris and Cummings both out of things, they could persuade enough Tory traitor’s to vote an extension motion through the house while Boris was lying, almost dying in fact, in a hospital bed and unable to fend them off.

Cummings is 100% Brexit and architected the no extension law to be written in, so having both Boris and him in isolation and incapable of stopping them, they went for it.

They were rumbled though, and Barnier has been informed that he and the conspirators have been caught red-handed and no extension by the U.K. will be sought nor accepted.

Are there no lengths these remoaners will stoop to? A dying prime minister during the biggest crisis since the Battle of Britain, and instead of supporting the people and the country through the crisis, they attempted to hi-jack the gov and force an unwanted EU extension on us all, which no doubt would have included lots of remain clauses in it if they could get their way.

They have simply made their own position much worse now, as if there was even a slight chance of Boris softening just a little on an extension, it’s gone forever now.
 

daygo

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Michel Barnier has accused the UK of “seeking to distance themselves” from a Brexit agreement.

The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator said on Friday “there have been no significant areas of progress” as he warned: “I don’t think we can go on like this forever.”

It comes after the conclusion of a fourth round of “future relationship” talks led by Barnier for the EU and David Frost – Boris Johnson’s chief negotiator – for the UK.

Barnier said there remains a deadlock on trade, nuclear safety, anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism financing measures, and fisheries.

He said the UK “continues to backtrack” on its previous commitments made under the political declaration agreed in October last year.

“We cannot and will not accept this,” he added.

The UK, after leaving the EU on 31 January, is currently in a “transition period” in which the two sides have until 31 December to agree their future relationship.

During the transition period, the UK effectively remains a member of the EU. It can be extended for up to two years, but Downing Street must give notice of this by 30 June.

Barnier said the EU hopes to restart face-to-face talks ahead of this deadline.

He added “the door is still open” for an extension.

Because of the coronavirus crisis, there have been calls for Number 10 to extend the transition period, with leaders primarily focused on the pandemic. However, the government has insisted it will not be seeking an extension.

There is mounting concern among business – already hit hard by the fallout from the pandemic – at the prospect of a “cliff edge” break to the UK’s remaining access to the EU single market with no new deal to replace it.

Frost, on the other hand, said “progress remains limited but our talks have been positive in tone”.

“Negotiations will continue and we remain committed to a successful outcome.”
 

daygo

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EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier has accused the UK of "backtracking" on commitments on fisheries and other issues in post-Brexit trade talks.

He said no "significant progress" had been made this week, and insisted the UK "respect" rules agreed with the EU.

A UK official told the BBC the two sides needed to work more "intensively" to reach a deal soon.

The UK and EU are are in dispute over competition rules, governance and fishing rights and police cooperation.

Guidelines for these issues were included in the political declaration, agreed by the UK and EU last year, which set out objectives for a future relationship.
 

daygo

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Plus ça change," you could say.

Round four of EU/UK trade negotiations after Brexit comes to an end. Cue yet another dismally downbeat assessment from the EU and the UK's chief negotiators.

But I don't belong to the growing "No deal is becoming the most likely outcome" school of thought.

On the contrary, both sides insisting loudly that their position will not waver (on all issues linked to national sovereignty for the UK; on all issues linked to the single market for the EU) is also a way of trying to reassure audiences back home that their interests will be protected, while privately considering what compromises they're prepared to make.

Sift carefully through the rhetoric of EU negotiator Michel Barnier.

Among his words of disappointment at the lack of progress, plus accusations that the UK is constantly "backtracking" on commitments, you'll find clear indications of wiggle-room in Brussels: a possible softening of EU demands on state aid rules and fishing quotas and an admission from Mr Barnier, that, if a deal were close this autumn, there would almost certainly be a "dense" period of last-minute negotiations.

No compromise clues from the UK yet, though.

It's not too late. But concessions will be needed from both sides for even a very narrow deal to be agreed by the UK-imposed deadline of the end of this year.
 

daygo

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The UK has "formally confirmed" to the EU that it will not extend the Brexit transition period, as it unveiled its post-exit border plans.

"The moment for an extension has now passed," Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove said.

The government has also confirmed that it has scrapped plans to immediately introduce full import controls on EU goods in the new year.

Mr Gove said Britain would now phase in changes so businesses hit by the coronavirus pandemic can have the "time to adjust".

The developments come after the first ministers of Scotland and Wales wrote to Boris Johnson demanding an extension to the transition period past the end of December.

In their letter, Nicola Sturgeon and Mark Drakeford said ending the arrangement then would be "extraordinarily reckless" amid the effects of the coronavirus pandemic - and they believe it could lead to a "disastrous no deal outcome".

Mr Gove posted on Twitter that he had chaired a "constructive" meeting of the EU Joint Committee with Maros Sefcovic, the EU Commission's Vice-President for Interinstitutional Relations.

He said: "I formally confirmed the UK will not extend the transition period & the moment for extension has now passed. On January 1, 2021, we will take back control and regain our political & economic independence."

Mr Sefcovic said: "From our side, I have taken note of the position of the UK on this issue and have stated, as President von der Leyen has already done, that the EU remains open to such an extension.

"In this context, we both, with Chancellor Gove, agreed on accelerating the implementation of the Withdrawal Agreement and to accelerate our work, and we also agreed that the Joint Committee should meet again in early September.

"By this date we also concluded that specialised committees including the one on the Ireland/Northern Ireland protocol will meet in the coming weeks."

Reacting to the UK's move, EU negotiator Michel Barnier said Brussels had "always been open to an extension".

They do keep trying dont they.
 

daygo

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European Union government envoys unanimously rejected demands to amend Michel Barnier’s mandate and allow the bloc’s chief Brexit negotiator to offer more concessions to the U.K., three officials familiar with a discussion in Brussels said.

“The EU and its 27 Member States stand united behind the EU mandate and Negotiator,” according to a memo circulated to delegations following the discussion and obtained by Bloomberg on Wednesday. The memo depicts a situation of “limited progress” in negotiations so far, accusing the U.K. of a “pick and choose” approach and calling for increased preparedness for the event of a chaotic separation at the end of the year.

The EU’s refusal is a blow to British hopes that Barnier would get more room to compromise, and dims the prospects of an imminent breakthrough. Adding to the bleak picture, two of the officials said that the timing of a high-level call between Prime Minister Boris Johnson and the leaders of EU institutions, supposed to inject momentum in the stalled negotiation, is uncertain, as Britain rejected an offer to hold it on Monday. Talks on the timing of the call continue.

Barnier said the U.K. would crash out of the European single market on Jan. 1 unless the British government scales back opposition to key EU demands. These include the bloc’s insistence that any deal include provisions on fishing rights, fair competition and dispute settlement.

“There are still major hurdles ahead of us,” Barnier told an EU advisory panel on Wednesday in Brussels. “We can find the necessary compromises on the condition that the U.K. changes its approach and accepts a proper balance of rights, benefits, obligations and legally binding constraints.”

Under the terms of the U.K.’s withdrawal from the EU earlier this year, a transition period preserving the economic status quo runs until the end of 2020 and can be prolonged by as long as two years while both sides negotiate a free-trade deal.

A decision to prolong the transition phase would have to be taken before the end of this month. Barnier said the EU would like to extend the transition -- but Johnson has repeatedly ruled out doing that.

“Throughout the negotiations we have been clear that we will not extend the transition period and, if offered an extension from the EU, we won’t accept it,” a Downing Street spokesman said. “Brexit is about economic independence and we gain more by being able to design our own rules to suit the best interests of our businesses and people in future.”

“The problem is one of substance, not of method,” according to the EU memo obtained by Bloomberg. “The U.K. cannot refuse an extension and at the same time hold back progress on key aspects of our future relationship.”

Failure to seal an accord by Dec. 31 without a longer transition would mean the return of tariffs and quotas for EU-U.K. commerce. Those trade barriers would be in addition to extra red tape for businesses that will emerge in any case because Britain will be leaving the European single market.

Michael Clauss, Germany’s ambassador to the EU, signaled last week the push for a free-trade deal with the U.K. would rise to the top of the bloc’s agenda after the summer break.
 

daygo

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Michael Gove has formally confirmed the UK will not ask for an extension to the Brexit transition period.

The UK, after leaving the EU on 31 January, is currently in a “transition period” in which the two sides have until 31 December to agree their future relationship.

Because of the coronavirus crisis, there have been calls for Number 10 to extend the transition period, with leaders primarily focused on the pandemic.

Boris Johnson has repeatedly insisted he will not ask for a delay, despite businesses and critics warning of the dangers of a departure without a trade agreement in place.

However, speaking this afternoon, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster said: “The moment for extension has now passed.”
 

TheRedeemed

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Its been very quiet on this front for the last month except for the usual remoaning we have had for the last 4 years.

However, tomorrow midnight is the deadline for extending the 'transition' period, so I wonder if we will see a flurry of activity and one last hurrah from the traitors today or tomorrow.

Can't wait till we get past midnight tomorrow and we can finally say goodbye to the remoaners and then come 31st December 2020 we're totally free of the EU as well.
 

athenasius

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Hoping and praying your leaders don't blink and extend anything. That will just encourage the EU to continue badgering you. When they finally realize you are gone, outta there, not coming back, that will give them some incentive to bargain in good faith as to any future agreements.
 

daygo

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Hoping and praying your leaders don't blink and extend anything. That will just encourage the EU to continue badgering you. When they finally realize you are gone, outta there, not coming back, that will give them some incentive to bargain in good faith as to any future agreements.
Exactly My thinking athenasius.
 

TheRedeemed

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Well the time came and went, and you can tell that no extension was given or taken as not one single news agency here has mentioned the fact that today was the deadline to have agreed to extend and that no extension was agreed.

The remoaners and every treacherous news agency in Britain would have been joyfully reporting the fact that another 1 or 2 years had been added to the transition period, whilst out celebrating in the streets.

So, we're out no matter what on 31st December 2020, whether the EU makes a deal with us or not. UK has already been speaking and negotiating with several countries in preparedness for the coming ability to trade once again in our own right, and that made us a great nation long before and for several centuries before the EU came along and restricted that.

Onwards and upwards for the UK and possibly the start of the end of the EU, a few other nations now seriously considering their memberships.

Thanks be to God! We're out, we've made it and the traitors and remoaners are now a thing of the past.

They have just lost their last chance to try and keep us in.

It will take another referendum and new Govt to get us back in now. That won't be happening anytime soon.
 

daygo

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Well the time came and went, and you can tell that no extension was given or taken as not one single news agency here has mentioned the fact that today was the deadline to have agreed to extend and that no extension was agreed.

The remoaners and every treacherous news agency in Britain would have been joyfully reporting the fact that another 1 or 2 years had been added to the transition period, whilst out celebrating in the streets.

So, we're out no matter what on 31st December 2020, whether the EU makes a deal with us or not. UK has already been speaking and negotiating with several countries in preparedness for the coming ability to trade once again in our own right, and that made us a great nation long before and for several centuries before the EU came along and restricted that.

Onwards and upwards for the UK and possibly the start of the end of the EU, a few other nations now seriously considering their memberships.

Thanks be to God! We're out, we've made it and the traitors and remoaners are now a thing of the past.

They have just lost their last chance to try and keep us in.

It will take another referendum and new Govt to get us back in now. That won't be happening anytime soon.
Thanks for the update TheRedeemed.
 
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