I think he would choose to have us do without.
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I think he would choose to have us do without.
My front yard.
I think a 1/3 of our town's population is wild turkey. No hunting in town though so you're going to have to hit them with your car. Not a deal with current gas prices. 
Have you priced a pair of shoes lately? In some 3rd world countries they make slipper/shoes out of canvas and used tire rubber. When it gets worse here, maybe we'll see those in the stores. Hope I can afford those when the time comes.
Amethyst
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Absolutely
pixelpusher
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I’ve never leased a vehicle, but perhaps a 3 year EV lease to get past Brandon. Have not explored the financials, probably still not a good idea.
Back in 2014, I leased a Nissan Leaf. I really liked the car. A LOT. I would plug it in the normal wall plug in my garage at night. It would fully charge by morning. I could get about 100 miles in one charge. Most of the time - that was perfect. There were some days when I had to run a lot of errands and those miles would add up quickly. In 3 years of owning it, I only had 2 emergencies where I did not have enough charge to get home. Once I pulled into a recreation park, pulled up super close to the bathroom and ran the charger cable into the bathroom and plugged it into the wall outlet. Once I had to charge it at Whole Foods. Both times, it was kind of nice. Sure, I had to sit there for an hour or more waiting to get enough charge to drive home. But it was impromptu time with God. It was actually nice. I could never take the car on a long trip so we always used my husband's gas-powered truck for trips. The only maintenance I had to do was for the tires. That was SUPER nice and saved even more money. One day, an older Tahoe rear-ended me on the interstate while I was on my way to work. It totaled the car. I tried to replace it with another EV but by then, all of the Federal and State rebates were no longer available. The EV cars were just way too expensive. I could not justify paying $35K or more for an EV that had zero options. I ended up getting a gas-powered vehicle, brand new, fully loaded with all the options for $22k. I did the math and even calculated what it would be with really high gas prices - it was still cheaper to go with the gas vehicle than the EV. I still miss the Leaf. It was so much fun to drive! But I won't be going back until the prices drop or they introduce new incentives.
DWB
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Don't forget those Tesla batteries are going to go dead one day. Approx $20k to replace. At that point the car would have no re-sale value. So it's basically a disposable car. Drive it till it dies and throw away.
lightofmylife
Blessed Hope-Prepare To Fly!
Sure we can all go out and get an electric car with what they cost. Who can afford that the elite? The normal household is doing good putting the price of gas in our cars and the price of food on our table. We got our car paid off 2 years ago with 2 years of payments. I am glad I still have stimulus money saved because we are both on Social Security. These people are crazy! 
alisani
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Love, love, love, love, love the attitude you had in that impromptu time with God. That's a good reminder to me to slow down a bit and practice patience.
Joseph The Carpenter
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Last I heard a Tesla cost 150,000 and 25,000 to change the battery.
Russia produces most of the world's nickel and yesterday they halted trading of nickel because it went up 300 %.
The price of an electric car is going to double like everything else.
Russia produces most of the world's nickel and yesterday they halted trading of nickel because it went up 300 %.
The price of an electric car is going to double like everything else.
Dave_97
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Im not sure where you are getting 150,000? Is that in dollars? The Tesla starts at 45,000 US dollars. With the most expensive model being about 90,000.
In terms of the battery, I’m reading its insured for the first 5-8 years (depending on the model), and the battery cost replacement for the 45k Tesla model is around $3000-$7000 ish. Then again your average America doesn’t use a car for 10 years anyways.
I still wouldn’t get it though for other various reasons. But overall personally I don’t think it’s a terrible option for those who have it.
And yes the prices are probably going to go up due to this recent war.
yrrek
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I use to tease my friend (kindly) because he would dress up and pretend to live in the 1800s… reenacting it I guess. Sometimes he would stay out in the “community” for a whole week. Doesn’t seem so silly now.
I definitely agree about the leasing thing. The only reason I leased was because the batteries were so new to the market (again, this was in 2014) and it was a way for me to "test" whether I wanted to keep the car long-term or not. I loved the car so much that I was fully planning to buy out the lease - but it was totaled in an accident. The good news was that because it was leased, I did not owe a single cent on the car in a loan payoff or anything.
Also - I NEVER pay a down payment on a car. NEVER. I did not put a down payment on the lease either. I just told them - No, I am not doing that. Then I stay there for HOURS. That day I was at the dealership for about 9 hours. I just keep negotiating with them. I am just really stubborn with them. I am not rude. I am very nice. But I keep saying no. And then, because I spend so many hours there, I think I wear them down. I go in with my laptop, and I have everything already calculated. Tax, tag, title. Everything. So when they give me a quote, I quickly show them that the price they are quoting is wrong. Then, I tell them how much I love the car - but keep politely pushing for a better deal. Then - after spending HOURS there, I say "I am really sad you won't work with me. I really love this car. But I am not paying that." And I get up and leave. They chase me EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Because they have spent so many hours with me, they don't want to lose the sell. It is very exhausting. And you do spend an entire day at a dealership. But if you really stick to your guns - you will get the deal because they wasted an entire day with you and don't want to walk away without a sale. And no, they did not add the down payment to the end of the lease because I also negotiated the payoff price up front based on Kelley Blue Book and typical values of the cars at the end of 3 years.
The very best car deal I ever got was when I took my 6 month old twins in to the dealership who had missed their nap. It was beautiful. I got the car for less than the Kelley Blue Book value and I got out of there in 3 hours. They were desperate for me to leave. EVERYONE should take tired babies to a dealership to buy cars.
glc11
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I agree. Have you ever been in a parking garage near the charging stations and seen people charging their cars and impatiently pacing and checking their watches? No thanks!
I guess the hybrids are more of the way to go? Both electric and gas (?)
glc11
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This is so funny! And yes, my dad who is a such a sweet polite man, has scored many deals at car dealerships doing the same thing…… hanging around for hours and hours but resisting. We always want to bring him along when we buy carsI definitely agree about the leasing thing. The only reason I leased was because the batteries were so new to the market (again, this was in 2014) and it was a way for me to "test" whether I wanted to keep the car long-term or not. I loved the car so much that I was fully planning to buy out the lease - but it was totaled in an accident. The good news was that because it was leased, I did not owe a single cent on the car in a loan payoff or anything.
Also - I NEVER pay a down payment on a car. NEVER. I did not put a down payment on the lease either. I just told them - No, I am not doing that. Then I stay there for HOURS. That day I was at the dealership for about 9 hours. I just keep negotiating with them. I am just really stubborn with them. I am not rude. I am very nice. But I keep saying no. And then, because I spend so many hours there, I think I wear them down. I go in with my laptop, and I have everything already calculated. Tax, tag, title. Everything. So when they give me a quote, I quickly show them that the price they are quoting is wrong. Then, I tell them how much I love the car - but keep politely pushing for a better deal. Then - after spending HOURS there, I say "I am really sad you won't work with me. I really love this car. But I am not paying that." And I get up and leave. They chase me EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Because they have spent so many hours with me, they don't want to lose the sell. It is very exhausting. And you do spend an entire day at a dealership. But if you really stick to your guns - you will get the deal because they wasted an entire day with you and don't want to walk away without a sale. And no, they did not add the down payment to the end of the lease because I also negotiated the payoff price up front based on Kelley Blue Book and typical values of the cars at the end of 3 years.
The very best car deal I ever got was when I took my 6 month old twins in to the dealership who had missed their nap. It was beautiful. I got the car for less than the Kelley Blue Book value and I got out of there in 3 hours. They were desperate for me to leave. EVERYONE should take tired babies to a dealership to buy cars.
Bethlehem57
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It would be smart to utilize US oil and reopen those pipelines….but they won’t consider smart.
No they don't. Our Stepford “President” has to go along with what he has been programmed to do. The folks pushing his buttons won't let him stray from the script.
lightofmylife
Blessed Hope-Prepare To Fly!
He is more interested in the new green deal then our own pipeline for oil so we don't have to get it from other countries. His priorities are not for us. He is working with and for the globalist 
crowd!
crowd!
Bethlehem57
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I don’t listen to this comedian named Jeff something, I think. But he’s a ventriloquist and if you look at a picture of him and one of his dummies, Walter, it looks just like the bumbler!
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