Biden signs executive order to make all federal vehicles ELECTRIC

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
On a positive note, when the feds do come for you, you only need to be able to outrun them long enough for their battery to run out! This is going to make all those high speed pursuit videos on Youtube pretty anti-climactic. "The officer has finally caught up with the suspect and is about to perform the pit maneuver............never mind."

Yup, something about objectively reasonable force and all that.

OTOH, we could all just go back to horses and mules and alpacas and oxen . . . leave the wet slippery manure on the roadway cuz it's natural/green and we surely wouldn't want to disturb the environment :biggrin

Should be some good yt :lol
 

Rocky R.

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Think about how many gas stations there are. Now replace them with charging stations. The infrastructure needed would cost trillions and take thirty years to build.
Not only that, but how long does it take to fully charge a vehicle's battery versus how long it takes to fill up a tank to the full with gasoline? Current quick-charging technology only fills the battery to 80% capacity, and that takes anywhere from an hour to three hours! Petroleum is still the king of fuels until we can master anti-matter.
 

Rocky R.

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So what will they do if China buys up all the batteries and pulls the plug on all the electricity?

I can just imagine Biden operating a car like Fred Flintstone. Yabadabadoo!
Yeah, I can just imagine that! Imagine bicycle pedal power for all cars, including RV's, hauler trucks, etc. Can you imagine an aircraft carrier running on pedal power and oars? They'd need more sailors on board those ships.
 

Mr.Hall93

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I'm so jaded at this point I bet they are only pulling this stunt to skim off the top of an extraordinarily overpriced and ineffective maneuver. No environment concern AT ALL, just free money and ineffective junk. Not to mention all the woe this will bring to the poor in the countries that are already exploited for the materials for this worthless junk. I like the idea I saw in this thread with horse and buggy. If you want to protect the environment, you have to give up all these toys. The ones who say otherwise are just jockeying for power and pushing an agenda. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Dilemma resolved.
 

Rocky R.

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I'm so jaded at this point I bet they are only pulling this stunt to skim off the top of an extraordinarily overpriced and ineffective maneuver. No environment concern AT ALL, just free money and ineffective junk. Not to mention all the woe this will bring to the poor in the countries that are already exploited for the materials for this worthless junk. I like the idea I saw in this thread with horse and buggy. If you want to protect the environment, you have to give up all these toys. The ones who say otherwise are just jockeying for power and pushing an agenda. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Dilemma resolved.
Yeah, and while we are forced to adopt horses, bulls, mules, and donkeys, AOC drives by in her gas-guzzling lambourghini and throws out flyers that say "VOTE FOR ME in 2030".
 

kathymendel

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Yup, something about objectively reasonable force and all that.

OTOH, we could all just go back to horses and mules and alpacas and oxen . . . leave the wet slippery manure on the roadway cuz it's natural/green and we surely wouldn't want to disturb the environment :biggrin

Should be some good yt :lol
It's gonna be pretty hard to go back to horses and livestock for transportation.
The HOA's aren't going to allow you to keep your horses in the backyard!
 

Mr.Hall93

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What really scares me about this climate change nonsense is what they aren't saying out loud. I saw some deal with a Swiss scientist on national television say that we need to rethink the taboo on cannibalism if we want to confront climate change... AND NOBODY ARGUED WITH HIM. All you seem to hear as far as actual methods of change go involve wicked schemes like normalizing cannibalism or genocide. I mean really, if it's that bad wouldn't it be better to die loving each other to the end rather than committing unprecedented evil to survive something they can't even prove? And they think WE are the threats for believing Jesus Christ will return.
 

Mr.Hall93

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Yeah, and while we are forced to adopt horses, bulls, mules, and donkeys, AOC drives by in her gas-guzzling lambourghini and throws out flyers that say "VOTE FOR ME in 2030".
That's the real truth of it. Everybody LOVES rules they get to impose on others with complete impunity. Our Lord had some things to say to people that did that a while back, I guess they aren't too bothered about receiving a hypocrite's reward.
 

depserv

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I don't think Biden and his comrades, in government, media, and the academic world, really believe the climate change lies; I think they just see the lie as a way to ruin the economy. They clearly want to do this because a ruined economy makes it easy to lead masses of hungry people to invite communism down on themselves; this is obviously their ultimate goal, and the climate change lie is one of many means toward that end.

So to me they are more evil than stupid. Well except Biden; he's stupid and evil both. But most of them are more evil than stupid. The really stupid ones are the ones who believe the lies, and vote for the Bidens and the AOCs because of the lies, and are easily duped into forging their own chains.
 

Mr.Hall93

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I don't think Biden and his comrades, in government, media, and the academic world, really believe the climate change lies; I think they just see the lie as a way to ruin the economy. They clearly want to do this because a ruined economy makes it easy to lead masses of hungry people to invite communism down on themselves; this is obviously their ultimate goal, and the climate change lie is one of many means toward that end.

So to me they are more evil than stupid. Well except Biden; he's stupid and evil both. But most of them are more evil than stupid. The really stupid ones are the ones who believe the lies, and vote for the Bidens and the AOCs because of the lies, and are easily duped into forging their own chains.
As you may have guessed by my reaction, I agree 100 percent haha :) if nothing else, it proves a lot of people will do ANYTHING for power. It didn't elude me that they sent some bossy teenager around the world to rant at kids in school, kids started to show obvious signs of harm and depression, and somehow they are STILL the good guys despite scaring kids senseless about dying. How many more suicides will it take until they see its a bad thing they are doing? Trick question, they won't because it's all about gaining power and they could care less about the environment.
 

ChildofLight

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Aren't all bills that involve spending $$$$ supposed to originate in the House? Replacing all these vehicles will cost megabucks. Why not just replace them one at a time when they wear out. It seems that all the usurper wants to do is spend and waste money, and he's only been there a week.
I suggest just replacing the House. It would be better for everyone.
 

athenasius

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Someone needs to explain to him where most electricity comes from. Clearly, he is clueless. I am amazed at how uneducated these greenies/commies can be.
they are incredibly ignorant. I suppose they think electricity comes from the wall outlet! That clean electric car has batteries that are incredibly corrosive to the environment, difficult to recycle and generate a LOT of carbon not to mention toxic waste in the mining, refining and manufacture of their component parts.

But I guess it's all ok because the toxicity is over in Tibet where other people have to cope. https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/lithium-ion-battery-environmental-impact/ And when you consider the "green new deal" ideas for wind and solar, those rely on incredibly large amounts of toxic batteries to store excess power for use when the sun goes down or the wind quits blowing.

Really the only safe renewable resource is water, and only in areas where dams are possible to build plus have plenty of rainfall or snowmelt that can fill up those dams.

In very few places (my province is one) does electricity come from hydro electric plants using dams of water. And there are massive problems with wind turbines and solar that affect the environment.

According to the US govt here: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/electricity-in-the-us.php

Here's where the "juice" to run the electric cars comes from:

38% comes from power plants that use NATURAL GAS (ooooo fossil fuel there Biden)
23% comes from COAL fired plants. OH MY THE CARBON UNITS ARE JUST A PUMPING OUT so Biden can juice the limo.
20% is NUCLEAR!!!! Yeah, cause nuclear waste is so clean and healthy, let's start dumping it on Biden, he won't mind.

7.3% comes from wind (some of that generated by the politicians no doubt) but that is killing migratory birds and isn't very efficient. Wind turbines are expensive beasts to build, maintain and even dispose of when they fall apart. And the sites that are available for enough wind to make it worthwhile are few and far between.

FINALLY
6.6% Hydro or water power from dams! Water, the best renewable resource accounts for 6.6% BUT where I live, the environmentalist lobby won't allow dams to be constructed because-- the environment. (same protestors show up wearing high tech oil based weather resistent Gore Tex jackets carrying their cell phones filled with rare earth elements that create toxic waste driving SUV's parked handy beside the protest site) mmmmmmm hmmmmmmm.

1.8% comes from SOLAR (very hazardous for birds and wildlife, battery units to store energy after sundown are like electric cars, full of toxic stuff that wears out eventually and needs disposing of the stuff that can't be recycled.

1.4% is from Biomass (but I suspect that is from burning or composting both of which generate airborne waste.

0.4% is from Geothermal.

So Biden just signed off on a big plan to destroy the environment because he's going to have to build power plants to juice up all those toxic battery driven electric vehicles.

And most places in the States aren't begging for a nuclear plant, so that means coal or natural gas or diesel fuel. Those all come from FOSSIL FUELS which he wants to stop mining at least in America, so HELLO Saudi Arabia and the oil crisis of the 70's.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
Yeah, I can just imagine that! Imagine bicycle pedal power for all cars, including RV's, hauler trucks, etc. Can you imagine an aircraft carrier running on pedal power and oars? They'd need more sailors on board those ships.

Multiple layers of chained oarsmen and a hortator (aka keleustes) (pace keeper/caller). Phoenecians, Romans, etc. did it. Usually only one or two layers.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
It's gonna be pretty hard to go back to horses and livestock for transportation.
The HOA's aren't going to allow you to keep your horses in the backyard!

If I share the :horsepoop for everyone's gardens, or the subdivision landscaping, they might :lol
If not, then I'll get a bunch of Siberian Huskies and do the dog sled thing (wheels when no snow) :tappingfoot
 
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