Baptists

ShilohRose

Well-Known Member
I understand that the Southern Baptist Convention is meeting in Nashville, TN, this week and is expected to be a knock down drag out. The last time I heard of this was in the 70s. The conservatives won that battle, but I'm not certain what will happen now. I told my mother that I thought the SBC should split, let the liberals go their own way. The thing is churches in the SBC are not governed by the convention, which is a loose confederation, that is supposed to be banded together mostly for the purpose of the furtherance of the Gospel-- missionary work. If there is a huge difference in doctrine in the churches, they should separate. I would be fine with this solution, although I'm sure there would be a titanic struggle over the money, possessions, and publishing company. Lifeway has not been much punkin in years though, and they closed all of the physical stores.
 

Burnboss

Well-Known Member
While a spilt might seem like a good things, there are many factors that would come into play that would be painful. Many Pastors in the SBC churches have paid into the SBC retirement program since many churches don't have a retirement program themselves. SBC Retirement homes, Children Hospitals, when splits happen, a lot of the money is frozen in courts for many many years.
 

ShilohRose

Well-Known Member
While a spilt might seem like a good things, there are many factors that would come into play that would be painful. Many Pastors in the SBC churches have paid into the SBC retirement program since many churches don't have a retirement program themselves. SBC Retirement homes, Children Hospitals, when splits happen, a lot of the money is frozen in courts for many many years.
That's true. My father, who passed away last September, received a small pension from them. I had not considered that aspect of it. Sigh. I guess we'll see what happens. I doubt there will be a split, however. I expect the Liberals to take it over and ruin it.
 

ProxDee222

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I attend a Baptist Church myself, thankfully Pastors there also believe Salvation is from faith on Christ alone and our brothers are really friendly, we take our time to read some Christian books on Sunday and there's some sort of activity Saturdays but at that time is late I can't attend sadly, I feel so blessed Daddy put a Church like this close to where I live. :D
 

GA Watchman

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Did you ever watch any sermons of Billy Graham he is the most well known pastor that was of the Baptist denomination? Also, have you watched Robert Jeffress First Baptist of Dallas, Texas? He went to the White House, and prayed with Trump. You can find his sermons, and probably statement of faith. I decided it was best not to put a link on here so you will have to check it out privately.
Add Dr. Charles Stanley
 

pythons

Member
Its true is it not that of the Baptist Churches that exist today the most conservative hail out of the S.B.C. Growing up I had a friend who lived about a mile away from me who attended a "fundamentalist Baptist" Church. The woke rot keeps creeping into all the Churches.
 

Jan51

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Its true is it not that of the Baptist Churches that exist today the most conservative hail out of the S.B.C. Growing up I had a friend who lived about a mile away from me who attended a "fundamentalist Baptist" Church. The woke rot keeps creeping into all the Churches.
I grew up in a excellent church that was part of the Conservative Baptists. They are more conservative and fundamental than SBC but are not like the legalistic Independent Fundamental Baptists.
 

Crow Underhill

Active Member
I was born and raised in a Hardcore, Fundamental, Independent Baptist church, yes Hellfire and Brimstone. I do not have anything bad to say about it. They considered themselves to be a New Testament church. The pastor was a crusty old WWII veteran with a strong limp, would scare the skin off of you and turn your bones to jelly. A good and honest man. The church was devoted to the salvation of souls, not money. As a matter of fact, every Sunday morning before service they rolled out a chalkboard where they showed the congregation how much tithes have been collected, where the money was being spent and what their plans were. My uncle was the assistant pastor, another WWll veteran. The church was a multi-family, mulit-generational congregation, my mother and father's family were members. Church three times a week and visitation on Thursday. Southern Baptists were a no no, as a matter of fact everybody else was a no no. I, being a true prodigal and seeker of things always questioned why, why, why. Today I know why but I am not so hardcore as I was raised. I have attended many churches in my life, Southern Baptist, AME, Methodist, Church of Christ, even Catholic, I am glad I did so and believe we all have a common ground to work upon.
 

Wings Like Eagles

Well-Known Member
While a spilt might seem like a good things, there are many factors that would come into play that would be painful. Many Pastors in the SBC churches have paid into the SBC retirement program since many churches don't have a retirement program themselves. SBC Retirement homes, Children Hospitals, when splits happen, a lot of the money is frozen in courts for many many years.
Very sad that the once-mighty SBC would be splintering. The loss of the Bible as the core of Baptistic thought has been diluted by those who want to form doctrine that compromises with the world. Since when is the Church ever supposed to that?
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
Last Sunday I attended University Baptist Church. I believe they're aligned with SBC. Their statement of beliefs seems pretty solid but they jump from today to the Lord's second coming, skipping a lot of important things that are coming to the world. I enjoyed the service.
 

Leigh

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Last Sunday I attended University Baptist Church. I believe they're aligned with SBC. Their statement of beliefs seems pretty solid but they jump from today to the Lord's second coming, skipping a lot of important things that are coming to the world. I enjoyed the service.
That seems to be the trend in many SBC churches, including the one where we are now members. We've only been attending there since the summer and it is very biblically solid, but no word on the rapture, tribulation, or anything on the horizon. I suspect many individual members probably believe as I do, however it's not taught in the seminaries now (I don't think) so pastors don't teach it either.

During my high school years we had a wonderful, dynamic pastor who constantly talked of and preached the pre-trib rapture. I guess it's because of his teaching that I haven't wavered in my views after all these years.
 

ItIsFinished!

Blood bought child of the King of kings.
At my country hick church we have a long-standing tradition of skipping the third verse of every hymn. We watch visitors to see if they try to sing the third verse. If they do, we know they are city slickers and in need of prayer. Our preacher points at them and shouts his entire sermon while staring at them.
We are a small church.
My thoughts on singing ALL the verses of any hymn . Not directed at anyone. Definitely not Footsteps.
Sing ALL the verses of every hymn. The way it is suppose to be sung.
What if you have visitors at the church and you leave out whatever verse of whatever hymn ?
Especially if it happened to be one of their favorite verses. Or maybe the congregation wants to sing them all. Were suppose to be of one mind.
This is a trend throughout churches that ought not be.
What is the purpose of singing hymns?
To praise and worship God!
Okay. So what are churches saying when you leave out verses to hymns ?
God you are only worthy of 3/4 of this hymn.
We're trying to save time by cutting your praise and worship , which is the main reason why anyone should be there to begin with.

One more thing, is kneeling during The Star Spangled Banner wrong?
 

GotGrace

Well-Known Member
Goodness, I am a Christian who has attended Southern Baptist churches my entire life, so reading that is kind of shocking to me. I grew up in the Southeast though, and in my area (1970s) the majority of churches were Southern Baptist, Methodist or Presbyterian, and at least back then it was known that Baptists were very strong and sound in their doctrine.

I'm sure that being a former JW would make you cautious, and rightly so!

(By the way, I never even heard of Particular Baptists until this thread. As my mother likes to say, "You learn something new every day!" :) )
There are Baptists my parents called hard-shell and primitive Baptist that sounded pretty rigid to the point of legalism.
 

Aiyanna

Well-Known Member
My parents took us to a local Baptist church years ago. It was/is conservative.
They were ok right up until they claimed the Holy Spirit doesn't work today. That's when my parents left.
Nowadays I'm rather picky about what church I attend. I prefer Calvary Chapels. My only gripe with the one that's near where I live is, in their by-laws, they clearly state they avoid discussions about the rapture and prophecy because they believe it's un-knowable..... Yeah, I had questions reading that....
Prophecy makes up a huge chunk of the Bible.
Finding a good church is hard.
 

Wally

Do You Believe ?
I have found the many flavors of Baptist do focus on God's word. Sometimes they handle it well, sometimes it's more 1 Cor 13 1-3.

I made the observation some of them are like Mennonites with guns.

So many parts of the body and all connected in Christ, yet so dysfunctional. It must be the meds.

or maybe its just the Self medication.
 

Jan51

Well-Known Member
My parents took us to a local Baptist church years ago. It was/is conservative.
They were ok right up until they claimed the Holy Spirit doesn't work today.
I assume that when you mention whether the Holy Spirit works today, you are talking about whether spiritual gifts are for today or not? Baptists vary on this teaching, not all believe the same. But God is always working, and He works through the Holy Spirit. I doubt any Baptist would disagree with that.
 
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