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I suspect that they will be aided in their persuasiveness by a very powerful and convincing apparition of "Mary" (one of the many false signs and wonders Jesus warns about).Only Roman Catholicism and a pope like Frannie, who is ecumenical and universal in his theology, has the clout to persuade billions of people worldwide.
Good post brother.Thanks for posting this. I am in the middle of reading Woods paper, and Rhode's New book in which he states Babylon will be rebuilt. I have read Dr. Reagan's work as well as Hindson's, and Dyer's. All great Premillennial scholars but being opposed on the topics. When I have completed Ron Rhodes book and Wood's paper, I will post a synopsis (and not a lengthy one). As I stand currently, and I have not budged, I do not believe that ancient Babylon will be rebuilt. I do believe the harlot of Rev. 17 is a centuries old corrupt religious system that is connected to the commercial/political Babylon of Rev. 18. I believe the False Prophet will come out of Rome and be used by the beast AC as his evangelist in getting the world to come onboard with his beast financial and political system (including worship and allegiance to AC (Satan incarnate)). I then believe that once he (Satan) is done with her, he will turn and destroy her. The False Prophet is needed by the beast. Only Roman Catholicism and a pope like Frannie, who is ecumenical and universal in his theology, has the clout to persuade billions of people worldwide. We must remember, he has gained support of Atheists, LGBTQ, Islamacists, and his own Catholics. the numbers add up into the billions. A person with that much clout and outreach is surely to used by the Enemy of God, mankind, and believers. His promises are nothing more than a puff of smoke to be carried off by the wind. Again once AC is finished with her, he will turn on her. I believe the FP's HQ is Rome but the AC's remains to be seen. But there will be a connection of sorts, i.e., they feed on each other just like Satan eats his own (figuratively speaking).
15 Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.
The New King James Version (Nashville: Thomas Nelson, 1982), Re 17:15–17.
Cool, thanks for doing that. I haven't read Dr. Rhodes' book, so I'd be interested to know if he has any additional insight to both sides of the issue besides the usual.When I have completed Ron Rhodes book and Wood's paper, I will post a synopsis (and not a lengthy one).
Just listening to Andy Woods latest sermon on Revelation (chapter 14 from verse 8) and he has started to mention Babylon, it's so interesting where he mentions the commonly held view that chapter 17 is seen as a separate Babylon from chapter 18... That a common view is chapter 17 is a religious system and chapter 18 is a commercial city or system... He reckons both chapters 17 and 18 describe a single literal city of Babylon which will be rebuilt... And to look at the way "City" is used as a literal word in both chapters 17 and 18... Even the last verse of 17 interprets Babylon as the great city, literal...
Woods reckons chapter 17 highlights the religious side of the city, and 18 highlights the commercial side of the city, and that the city itself is, for example, like the Vatican which is both a literal place and HQ of a religious system. The literal city Babylon will be destroyed in bowl judgement number 7...
Very very interesting...
Janet Parshall had a show with Ron Rhodes about Babylon yesterday. He believes it's the literal city and not a mystery. The podcast is available.Just asking............... Could the Vatican be the New Babylon? I know the bible sounds more literal than that, but the Vatican kind of fits the description. It is a city - heck, it is it's own little country - with a leader who is trying hard to influence world government, religion and economics. It has a dark history of being anti-Christ and has more money and treasures (mostly stolen) than we can imagine, and has been responsible for much death and destruction over the centuries.
Yes, I have heard him on Jan Markell and I have read his book "New Babylon Rising" I really like the book because there is so much good content in it about the last days. But even with all of his arguments, I am not persuaded that it will be a rebuilt city. But I could be wrong. I will be posting why in the near future. If you take all of the arguments he uses and those of Charles Dyer, Woods, and Hitchcock, you may be persuaded. It is not really what they use to try and prove it, it is what they fail to use that speaks against it that concerns me. And maybe this is a teaching moment for me. Maybe what I see missing is not as relevant as what the see existing. That is the research I am gathering. Hope to post something soon. BTW, I like all of these guys and believe they are great scholars.Janet Parshall had a show with Ron Rhodes about Babylon yesterday. He believes it's the literal city and not a mystery. The podcast is available.
Janet Parshall had a show with Ron Rhodes about Babylon yesterday. He believes it's the literal city and not a mystery. The podcast is available.
Your grammar does not allow me to understand what you are trying to say.a number of reasons not to believe Rome such as the seven Mounts which Jerusalem sits on Rome sits on hills. The last week of Daniel's 70 week must have as its focal point Daniel's people, Jews, and Daniel's city, Jerusalem.
Do not be discouraged. Understand that the Rapture is imminent. It is not dependent upon a city being built. I also have a hard time believiong that a city could be built and become so prosperous that it becomes the worlds official trade capitol. That, despite the wealth of Oil in the Middle East and the technology available.Okay, it may not be the right belief, but I WANT to believe Babylon in Rev is referring to Rome (because if it's a rebuild city in Iraq, then we probably have many more years to wait. The argument that a mighty city could be built practically overnight by the AC is a little hard for me to swallow.)