Alexey Navany - thoughts?

[Katie8758]

What is everyone's thoughts about Alexey. Do you think he will end up being a key player in everything?

 

[ShilohRose]

I hate to admit it, but this is the first time I've heard of him.

 

[Katie8758]

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[Katie8758]

I only heard of him.about a week or so ago, but ever since then I haven't been able to "shake" him. And obviously Putin wishes he could, too.

 

[Andy C]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55700312

 

[athenasius]

No, I don't think he will be able to do much of anything. It's not just him versus Putin for the soul of the Russian people, it comes down to Gog of Magog needing to be a strong leader of the coalition forces that invade Israel in Ezek 38 & 39

For that either Putin or whoever the gang behind Putin wants will be the leader of Russia.

Navalny has been a valiant opponent, it's one of the reasons why he was supposed to be murdered in that recent poisoning. It's what happens to everyone who opposes Putin or rather the leadership cabal behind Putin who put him into power and keeps him there.

But if we are as close to Ezek 38 as I think, I doubt Navalny would be able to topple the grip of power that the people behind Putin have on the government of Russia.

And Navalny believes in all the democratic ideals that used to characterize the west. From free speech to clean elections. I can't see the powers behind Putin, and Putin himself letting go of any of the power they accumulated in the years since the fall of the USSR.

 

[athenasius]

What I think Navalny WILL do, is force the gang plus Putin to shore up their controls of the media within Russia and of the election process and clamp down on all opposition. They have to do that while appearing to yield some power to those behind Navalny but it will be just as much a smoke and mirror operation as when Putin yielded to his right hand man Medvedev for a few years so that he could get around the term limits. Putin has been busy arranging for his own no limits leadership in the past 2 years or so, as well as for his protection (and Medvedev's plus a few others) when they eventually retire to prevent any incoming leader harming them.

A good book on the subject is "Russia's Dead End" by Andrei A. Kovalev. My late father in law (Russian) had it and attested to the truth of it. He worked as an engineer after arriving in Canada in the 50's from the ex pat colony of Russians (White or Tsarist Russians) in China. He later worked for the Canadian govt on technical engineering related translation between Soviet engineers studying Canadian systems, as well as going to Russia to translate the opposite way. During those years he was able to see and hear a lot of what was going on.

He died 2 years ago this spring, but remained alert and interested in the way power was transferred from Gorbachev at the end of the USSR years to the rise of Putin.

I commented on the interesting Biblical pattern in this other thread: https://www.raptureforums.com/forum...aunches-smear-campaign-against-pfizer.174390/
saying this:
It's interesting that a 40 year period began with Reagan (the 40th president) in 1981 and ended with Trump (#45) in 2021. It's like there was a pause, a period of grace for the world in those years that saw Reagan come to power via the Moral Majority (Christian influence) but those 40 years were a death spiral of sin marring that 40 year period, ending with another unexpected gift of grace during the Trump presidency who came into power like Reagan, unexpectedly, by God's design. And it ended in that 40th year again, by God's express permission. The fulness of time springs to mind.

40 is often a time of testing in the Bible. And a generation.

But during those years God preserved freedom in America for the world. A period of testing, a period of His grace extended.

Back to my thoughts on Putin and Navalny
It is interesting to me that Putin has been on the arc of power from the end of the Reagan era when Gorbachev oversaw the fall of the USSR, and helped to bring the Russian economy back from the ash heap it was in with the help of his oligarc buddies (also part of the power structure in Russia)

It is quite possible that Putin will be replaced now that Trump is no longer in power in America, with someone else, but that someone will be carefully picked by the powers that control Putin and put him on the rise back in the Gorbachev years.

Look at Sergei Shoygu as a possible successor to Putin. We got into it a bit in this thread here: https://www.raptureforums.com/forum...is-putin-planning-to-quit-the-kremlin.170141/

but I had a conversation with an online friend who works by forecasting international money shifts, and he figures that Putin's successor is waiting in the wings till Biden's group are fully in control of the White House. I know we discussed that somewhere in relation to Putin stepping down but there have been a number of threads and I can't find the link.

 

[Spartan Sprinter 1]

What I think Navalny WILL do, is force the gang plus Putin to shore up their controls of the media within Russia and of the election process and clamp down on all opposition. They have to do that while appearing to yield some power to those behind Navalny but it will be just as much a smoke and mirror operation as when Putin yielded to his right hand man Medvedev for a few years so that he could get around the term limits. Putin has been busy arranging for his own no limits leadership in the past 2 years or so, as well as for his protection (and Medvedev's plus a few others) when they eventually retire to prevent any incoming leader harming them.

A good book on the subject is "Russia's Dead End" by Andrei A. Kovalev. My late father in law (Russian) had it and attested to the truth of it. He worked as an engineer after arriving in Canada in the 50's from the ex pat colony of Russians (White or Tsarist Russians) in China. He later worked for the Canadian govt on technical engineering related translation between Soviet engineers studying Canadian systems, as well as going to Russia to translate the opposite way. During those years he was able to see and hear a lot of what was going on.

He died 2 years ago this spring, but remained alert and interested in the way power was transferred from Gorbachev at the end of the USSR years to the rise of Putin.

I commented on the interesting Biblical pattern in this other thread: https://www.raptureforums.com/forum...aunches-smear-campaign-against-pfizer.174390/
saying this:
It's interesting that a 40 year period began with Reagan (the 40th president) in 1981 and ended with Trump (#45) in 2021. It's like there was a pause, a period of grace for the world in those years that saw Reagan come to power via the Moral Majority (Christian influence) but those 40 years were a death spiral of sin marring that 40 year period, ending with another unexpected gift of grace during the Trump presidency who came into power like Reagan, unexpectedly, by God's design. And it ended in that 40th year again, by God's express permission. The fulness of time springs to mind.

40 is often a time of testing in the Bible. And a generation.

But during those years God preserved freedom in America for the world. A period of testing, a period of His grace extended.

Back to my thoughts on Putin and Navalny
It is interesting to me that Putin has been on the arc of power from the end of the Reagan era when Gorbachev oversaw the fall of the USSR, and helped to bring the Russian economy back from the ash heap it was in with the help of his oligarc buddies (also part of the power structure in Russia)

It is quite possible that Putin will be replaced now that Trump is no longer in power in America, with someone else, but that someone will be carefully picked by the powers that control Putin and put him on the rise back in the Gorbachev years.

Look at Sergei Shoygu as a possible successor to Putin. We got into it a bit in this thread here: https://www.raptureforums.com/forum...is-putin-planning-to-quit-the-kremlin.170141/

but I had a conversation with an online friend who works by forecasting international money shifts, and he figures that Putin's successor is waiting in the wings till Biden's group are fully in control of the White House. I know we discussed that somewhere in relation to Putin stepping down but there have been a number of threads and I can't find the link.

Also i think Putin is also an anti globalist so he may very well be pushed out

 

[Saved and Waiting]

Key player maybe.....stacked up against France's Emmanuel Macron? I don't believe so. So many evil people....who will be chosen? The Lord knows but He's not saying and the Church will be in the New Jerusalem before much longer so blow that trumpet, shout those beautiful words, and get us out of here...really don't care anymore who's who is this earthly mess.

 

[Chris]

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[Spartan Sprinter 1]

Things are starting to simmer a bit with Putin, a lot more people are protesting his dictatorship recent and there articles in the news stating another revolution may be on hand in Russia.

I wonder if Soros has now starting to focus his efforts on Russia now ?

 

[Tall Timbers]

This is the guy who survived poisoning by nerve agent. He's either very brave or off his rocker to have returned to Russia. Maybe he'll get a larger dose of poison before he leaves his prison cell.

 

[Spartan Sprinter 1]

This is the guy who survived poisoning by nerve agent. He's either very brave or off his rocker to have returned to Russia. Maybe he'll get a larger dose of poison before he leaves his prison cell.

I'm not sure whether he's encouraging the people to go out and protest or whether the Russian people have genuinely had enough and are now marching on the streets which is brave of them.

Or there is the other option but it's highly doubtful that Soros has employed rent a crowd and is trying to upset the applecart in Russia

 

[Len]

This is the guy who survived poisoning by nerve agent. He's either very brave or off his rocker to have returned to Russia. Maybe he'll get a larger dose of poison before he leaves his prison cell.

He might get a dose of a new and impoved virus too or just die of natural causes while in custody.....

I saw an article talking about the same Russian laboratory suspected of producing the Novachock poison is also under suspicion of making a doomsday weapon containing the "Ebola Virus" ..... read here (hoping the link is okay for posting) there are other links to this story

 

[Footsteps]

All we can know for sure is the agents who muffed the first poisoning attempt have been transferred to rodent control operations in Siberia.

 

[DanLMP]

All we can know for sure is the agents who muffed the first poisoning attempt have been transferred to rodent control operations in Siberia.

So I just had to look...

"The Siberian zokor (Myospalax myospalax) is a species of rodents in the family Spalacidae. It is found in Kazakhstan and Russia."

 

[Footsteps]

"The Democ Rat (Parasiticus Verminus) is a species of rodents in the family Dementia Maximus. They are found primarily in large urban centers and often band together to take over city and regional governments."