After the Rapture

SarahRose

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Remember, there are four levels of application for these letters

I love this. And the fact that God would share this information with us for our understanding, in different layers and proven throughout time, is just amazing.

I'm going through a study on the rapture right now and the current topic is the huge emphasis on the churches in chapters 2 and 3 and then total absence of the church on the earth through chapters 4-22, so the letters are top of mind.

The Bible is incredible. The more I read it, the more blown away I am by it.
 

JoyJoyJoy

I Shall Not Be Moved
Keep in mind that in the Book of Revelation only two out of the seven churches (Smyrna and
I dont know why this caused me concern.
If the Churches represent certain eras in the Age of Grace, certainly there will be believers from each Era in the Rapture.
I pray that I am like the church of Philadelphia.
I agree we see the church of Laodiocia....it seems to be all around us.
 

athenasius

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I dont know why this caused me concern.
If the Churches represent certain eras in the Age of Grace, certainly there will be believers from each Era in the Rapture.
I pray that I am like the church of Philadelphia.
I agree we see the church of Laodiocia....it seems to be all around us.
I understand this concern, I used to share it. Then over time I grasped the idea that each church represents an age-- a period of history within the church AND

it also represents the believers in each age. So even today the Martyr church of Smyrna is still represented by those faithful ones who stand for Christ even as they are shot, beheaded or tortured to death for Him.

We might not be in the Ephesus age-- but this can represent those who have lost their first love, things have become a bit mechanical. The age of Pergamos is the church married to the world, and individuals can be married to the world.

The Age of Laodicea is characterized by a health, wealth and prosperity age affecting the church as a whole during that historical period at the end of the Church Age, as we await the Rapture.

Here we sit in Laodicea but that doesn't mean we ARE Laodiceans.

In each time period we still have martyrs, we still have those who are solid Christians but aren't in the passion of first love for Christ --things are a little routine. We have those married to the world. We have the Thyatirans (Catholic, Orthodox and similar), the Sardis types (Reformation churches with Calvinist and Reform teachings), The Philadelphians (brotherly love) often described as the evangelistic movement in the church characterized by believers with a genuine love and concern to spread the gospel and we have Laodiceans, concerned with health, wealth and living their best life now.

So even though an age has an over arching characteristic that describes it, the individuals inside these groups are still present.

Which means that those who love the Lord, love others enough to either preach the gospel to the lost or at the very least, send missionaries --this is the character of the Philadelphian age. It is also characterized by a deep love for the whole Word of God, which is why this church age recovered the teaching of prophecy, and spawned the Dispensationalist Theology that helps rightly divide the Word, and make sense of prophecy within the whole context of the Bible.

Laodicea doesn't like Philadelphia much. All that emphasis on prophecy as Rick Warren pointed out, divides churches (as it should) and makes the pew warmers uncomfortable in their search for a happy church to sit in and live their best life now to quote another one Joel Osteen.

And Philadelphians will preach to all which converts a few, and leaves others fuming. The Laodiceans detest it, but so do the Thyatirans, the dwellers in Sardis. The martyrs of Smyrna would agree with Philadelphia but they are running for their lives. The Ephesians appreciate the reminder and listen to Philadelphia. The Pergamos dwellers are too busy being married to the world but get easily annoyed because it pricks their conscience.

further complicating it is the concept that each of these churches has believers (and unbelievers who attend there too)

So all believers go in the Rapture, all those who don't stay behind. Children, mentally incompetent, babies who aren't able to choose are taken up (my belief but there are those who disagree).

No matter which church type they fit into, no matter which age they lived in, at the Rapture ALL who love the Lord are caught up. The dead first, then we who are alive at that time.

Those who are left behind are now faced with a choice, to believe in Christ, and face the years ahead, knowing that for most that is a death sentence, or to reject Christ and continue to defy God throwing their lot in with Satan and the AC.
Hope that helps.
 
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daygo

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I understand this concern, I used to share it. Then over time I grasped the idea that each church represents an age-- a period of history within the church AND

it also represents the believers in each age. So even today the Martyr church of Smyrna is still represented by those faithful ones who stand for Christ even as they are shot, beheaded or tortured to death for Him.

We might not be in the Ephesus age-- but this can represent those who have lost their first love, things have become a bit mechanical. The age of Pergamos is the church married to the world, and individuals can be married to the world.

The Age of Laodicea is characterized by a health, wealth and prosperity age affecting the church as a whole during that historical period at the end of the Church Age, as we await the Rapture.

Here we sit in Laodicea but that doesn't mean we ARE Laodiceans.

In each time period we still have martyrs, we still have those who are solid Christians but aren't in the passion of first love for Christ --things are a little routine. We have those married to the world. We have the Thyatirans (Catholic, Orthodox and similar), the Sardis types (Reformation churches with Calvinist and Reform teachings), The Philadelphians (brotherly love) often described as the evangelistic movement in the church characterized by believers with a genuine love and concern to spread the gospel and we have Laodiceans, concerned with health, wealth and living their best life now.

So even though an age has an over arching characteristic that describes it, the individuals inside these groups are still present.

Which means that those who love the Lord, love others enough to either preach the gospel to the lost or at the very least, send missionaries --this is the character of the Philadelphian age. It is also characterized by a deep love for the whole Word of God, which is why this church age recovered the teaching of prophecy, and spawned the Dispensationalist Theology that helps rightly divide the Word, and make sense of prophecy within the whole context of the Bible.

Laodicea doesn't like Philadelphia much. All that emphasis on prophecy as Rick Warren pointed out, divides churches (as it should) and makes the pew warmers uncomfortable in their search for a happy church to sit in and live their best life now to quote another one Joel Osteen.

And Philadelphians will preach to all which converts a few, and leaves others fuming. The Laodiceans detest it, but so do the Thyatirans, the dwellers in Sardis. The martyrs of Smyrna would agree with Philadelphia but they are running for their lives. The Ephesians appreciate the reminder and listen to Philadelphia. The Pergamos dwellers are too busy being married to the world but get easily annoyed because it pricks their conscience.

Hope that helps.
Well said athanasius.
 

Dragontiger777

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Right, also the crashing planes, cars, trains, boats. Imagine the firestorm in towns and cities especially if it has been dry for a while. Hell on earth.

There was an interesting rapture movie from the 90s I watched where the world was so far gone that numerous nukes were already in the air in route to wipe out all major cities/destroy the world. While the missiles and bombs were in the air, the rapture happened, and at the same time all the bombs and nukes disappeared, peventing the earth from being destroyed.

Of course the AC came on the scene right away and took credit for saving humanity from ourselves, catipulting him into a position of leadership... It was an interesting take on things.
There will be hard time to cleaning up after the Rapture when the A/C reveal. Impossible to rebuilding during the 7 years tribulation. All I know is that they will fear and scare and emotion. The A/C take over but will he cleaning/mopping during that time. I don't think so. As they will accuse the Israel of cause??? Then there will war or peace under the A/C control.

This is beyond joke. They will fear before God's wraith.
 

daygo

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There will be hard time to cleaning up after the Rapture when the A/C reveal. Impossible to rebuilding during the 7 years tribulation. All I know is that they will fear and scare and emotion. The A/C take over but will he cleaning/mopping during that time. I don't think so. As they will accuse the Israel of cause??? Then there will war or peace under the A/C control.

This is beyond joke. They will fear before God's wraith.
Not if I'm right the mayhem will be minimal.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
All the Saints in Heaven will be sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo happy and grateful, and enjoying the ultimate fellowship with Jesus and each other. Those, who hadn't known about, or disagreed with, the teaching of the pre-Trib Rapture are going to be mightily, rapturously surprised, too :smile

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Sadly . . .

A lot of people, who had been told about the Rapture beforehand and viewed themselves as "good people," but who had never believed in Jesus as God and Savior, and so get left behind, will be really, really angry with God right after the Rapture and harden their hearts . . . especially when they see that some of the people they considered "bad people" or "not as deserving," were Raptured.

A lot of people, who thought they were Christians, maybe because they went to church, tithed, volunteered, etc., but didn't actually believe in Jesus as God and Savior, and so get left behind, will be really, really angry with God right after the Rapture and harden their hearts . . . especially when they see that some of the people they considered "bad people" or "not as deserving," were Raptured. Those, who were members of churches that didn't teach or believe in a pre-Trib Rapture are going to be extra-confused.

A lot of people, who had been told about the Rapture beforehand and viewed themselves as "good people," but who had never believed in Jesus as Lord and Savior, and so get left behind, will be in denial about what happened and want to believe the lie to spare themselves the truth that it's their own fault for not believing and so got left behind.

A lot of people, who are hostile to Christianity (and maybe Judaism, as well) will gleefully poke fun at any self-professed Christians left behind (and new Christians that came to saving faith right after the Rapture) and happily/eagerly spread the lie(s) about where all the Christians went and crow about how much "better" the world is with Christians.

A lot of people, who are kind of oblivious at what is really going on in the world anyway, will take the whole thing in stride as "normal," and believe whatever lie(s) are told about the disappearance of the Christians. It may even be that the fact that it was only Christians that disappeared will be down-played by TPTB to reduce the credibility and truth of the Bible and the Rapture.


Fortunately . . .

There will be people, who come to faith after the Rapture. Either right away if someone shared The Gospel (and maybe about the Rapture) with them beforehand, or later, as word spreads about what really happened, what is going to happen, and The Gospel.


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I pray the first and last groups are by far the largest.


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daygo

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All the Saints in Heaven will be sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo happy and grateful, and enjoying the ultimate fellowship with Jesus and each other. Those, who hadn't known about, or disagreed with, the teaching of the pre-Trib Rapture are going to be mightily, rapturously surprised, too :smile

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Sadly . . .

A lot of people, who had been told about the Rapture beforehand and viewed themselves as "good people," but who had never believed in Jesus as God and Savior, and so get left behind, will be really, really angry with God right after the Rapture and harden their hearts . . . especially when they see that some of the people they considered "bad people" or "not as deserving," were Raptured.

A lot of people, who thought they were Christians, maybe because they went to church, tithed, volunteered, etc., but didn't actually believe in Jesus as God and Savior, and so get left behind, will be really, really angry with God right after the Rapture and harden their hearts . . . especially when they see that some of the people they considered "bad people" or "not as deserving," were Raptured. Those, who were members of churches that didn't teach or believe in a pre-Trib Rapture are going to be extra-confused.

A lot of people, who had been told about the Rapture beforehand and viewed themselves as "good people," but who had never believed in Jesus as Lord and Savior, and so get left behind, will be in denial about what happened and want to believe the lie to spare themselves the truth that it's their own fault for not believing and so got left behind.

A lot of people, who are hostile to Christianity (and maybe Judaism, as well) will gleefully poke fun at any self-professed Christians left behind (and new Christians that came to saving faith right after the Rapture) and happily/eagerly spread the lie(s) about where all the Christians went and crow about how much "better" the world is with Christians.

A lot of people, who are kind of oblivious at what is really going on in the world anyway, will take the whole thing in stride as "normal," and believe whatever lie(s) are told about the disappearance of the Christians. It may even be that the fact that it was only Christians that disappeared will be down-played by TPTB to reduce the credibility and truth of the Bible and the Rapture.


Fortunately . . .

There will be people, who come to faith after the Rapture. Either right away if someone shared The Gospel (and maybe about the Rapture) with them beforehand, or later, as word spreads about what really happened, what is going to happen, and The Gospel.


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I pray the first and last groups are by far the largest.


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Excellent thinking, but I'm working on at the moment there's a gap between us changing and going up to the sky. What I'm going to say to those around me, up to now it'll only take 2 minutes.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
REPENT! BELIEVE! THE END IS NEAR!

JESUS IS COMING BACK SOON!


Believe in Jesus Christ as God and Savior from all your sins, no matter how grievous and/or many, and live forever in Heaven instead of die forever in Hell. DO NOT DELAY. Jesus is coming back soon, and it could be today. Even if He tarries, none of us know how long we, individually, have until we die. At the moment of death, our eternal destiny is set: either eternal life in a beautiful, perfect Heaven with Jesus, or eternal death and torment, permanently separated from God, in Hell, where there is utter darkness, gnashing teeth, wailing, a terrible stench, fire that is never quenched, and the worm that never dies. Eternity is a very long time. Choose this day, wisely and carefully.

Jesus paid the entire price for every sin everyone has ever, is, or will ever commit. Faith in Him is all that is required to be saved. We cannot and do not need to do anything in addition to what Jesus did for us, because Jesus already did it all! His righteousness is imputed to (counted for) all who believe, and His blood atonement for sin is sufficient for all. In accordance with the Bible alone, faith alone in Jesus Christ as God and Savior alone, salvation by the grace of God alone, to the glory of God alone.



16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:16-18, King James Version (KJV)

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:6, King James Version (KJV)

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.
11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Romans 4:3-25, King James Version (KJV)

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9, King James Version (KJV)

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 John 1:8-10, King James Version (KJV)


Dear God, my Maker (Creator) and Redeemer (Savior), I poor, miserable sinner, confess unto You that I am, by nature, sinful and unclean, and I have sinned against You by thought, word, and deed, by what I have done, and by what I have left undone. I confess unto You all my sins and iniquities with which I have ever offended You, and justly deserved Your temporal and eternal punishment. I am heartily sorry for them and I sincerely repent of them, and I pray You of Your boundless mercy, and for the sake of the holy, innocent, bitter sufferings and death of Your beloved Son, Jesus Christ, to be gracious and merciful and forgive me, a poor sinful being. I accept Jesus Christ as God's Son and my Savior and ask Him into my heart, and I accept the gift of forgiveness and eternal life, which He purchased for me by His atoning death on the cross. In Jesus' Name, Amen.


The basic tenets of the Christian faith are outlined in the Apostle's Creed:

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,* born of the
virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried. He
descended into hell. The third day He rose again from the dead. He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty. From thence He will come to judge
the living** and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,* the holy Christian Church, the communion of saints, the
forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen.

* The Holy Spirit is also known as The Holy Ghost
** The living is stated as the quick in older versions of the Apostle's Creed.


May this post be a blessing to all, who are lost and in need of the truth and Salvation in Christ. If anyone finds this post after the Rapture, you can still accept Jesus Christ as God and Savior. You will likely be killed for your faith (martyred), but dying in Jesus is gain of eternal life in Heaven.

21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
Philippians 1:21-23, King James Version (KJV)

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Galatians 2:20, King James Version (KJV)


Now that you are a believer and follower of Jesus Christ:

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
Ephesians 6:10-20, King James Version (KJV)

10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
Isaiah 41:10, King James Version (KJV)


and engage in The Great Commission (share The Gospel with unsaved people so they can believe and go to Heaven instead of going to Hell when they die):

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16:15-16, King James Version (KJV)


and be salt and light:

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 5:12-16, King James Version (KJV)


and go forth and do the good works God provides for you to do:

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 2:10, King James Version (KJV)


Although our sins are forgiven and we try to do good and try not to sin, we still sin because of our sin nature. This does not mean we have lost our Salvation. We ask God's forgiveness and rest in the knowledge that God does forgive us because of Jesus' death in our place. No matter what, do not take the mark of the beast. Read the Bible, especially the Book of Revelation, especially Chapters 13 and 14. Remember, no matter what is going on and no matter how bad it gets, keep faith and lean on Jesus, and don't give in to satan and the antichrist. Jesus won the war, and is coming back.

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Revelation 13, King James Version (KJV)

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
Revelation 14:9-13, King James Version (KJV)


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1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.
Psalm 23, KJV

1 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
2 Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;
3 Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.
4 There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.
5 God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.
7 The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.
8 Come, behold the works of the Lord, what desolations he hath made in the earth.
9 He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.
10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
11 The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.
Psalm 46, King James Version (KJV)
 
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fretslide

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There will be people, who come to faith after the Rapture. Either right away if someone shared The Gospel (and maybe about the Rapture) with them beforehand, or later, as word spreads about what really happened, what is going to happen, and The Gospel
Agree totally. I think we sometimes overlook the immense harvest of souls that will come in during the tribulation. Everyone will realise the truth after the rapture, and those who respond to the preaching of the two witnesses and the 144,000 will come to faith albeit wiith a high price.
 

ItIsFinished!

Blood bought child of the King of kings.
Agree totally. I think we sometimes overlook the immense harvest of souls that will come in during the tribulation. Everyone will realise the truth after the rapture, and those who respond to the preaching of the two witnesses and the 144,000 will come to faith albeit wiith a high price.
Yes, and Revelation 14:6...and the other two...
 

ninicat

Active Member
this is one of the best explanations I’ve read. Concise and to the point. I agree with you as well. I think this is what Gods Word teaches. I think of the current evil that tried to convince Chris to take down the Forums. I don’t get on that often but when I went to look last week and they were gone, I felt a huge loss. I’m so grateful for all posts on here and I’ve been helped so much in the past from reading and posting. So thankful for seeing and hearing Truth on these boards. God bless you all and keep up the Lords work!
 
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