A "Great Revival" before the Rapture?

amystery

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How can you 'not be ready' for heaven? How is that even possible?
I don't think there will be a great revival as in churches holding large services and many coming to Christ, but I do see people like us, speaking to our family, friends and loved ones and convincing them now may be the time. Many people have the feeling like we are on the verge of something, and may be willing to listen now when in the past they were not. I'm speaking mostly of the US and our situation with current events, but everyone in the world in living in crazy times. It's our job to spread the word and do the work, and I'm the first to say, it's not easy for me to do.
I'll say it second, it's very hard for me to do too!
 

BlessedAssurance

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I do not believe the Church will go out with a whimper. I believe it will go out gloriously. I also believe that we will see not a revival in the sense that we have seen them in the past but a revival in the sense of a great influx of souls into the Kingdom of God before the Rapture. And we are already seeing that all around the world.

We are not going out as a weak, nearly defeated Body, rescued in the nick of time by Christ. Yes, there is a great falling away underway. Yes, there seem to be more apostate churches all the time. But I am meeting more and more Christians who are now finding themselves really on fire for God, more and more saints returning from backsliding and lukewarmness, and more and more new believers. And I am hearing of this all over.

I do not think we are (thankfully) going to see any more multi-thousand member megachurches. But we are already seeing --and I believe will increasingly see-- small 20-30-40-50 member groups and assemblies springing up, comprised of newly saved saints and older saints who are responding to a fresh anointing of the Holy Spirit in their lives. I am continually meeting such people who are tired of traditional, dead, social club churches and want to see the power of God in their lives and the lives of others. And many of them sense the Rapture is just around the corner.

This has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with ushering in some earthly Kingdom of God. The NAR people and those Kingdom Now people are all misled. What I believe is happening now (and will accelerate as the end draws near) is simply the result of God purifying His people for service in these final moments of this age and, as a result, drawing more souls to His Son.

When we go up, it will be with a trumpet blast of victory. You can be assured that Almighty God will take His people out victorious. I believe we can find examples of this in the Old Testament, and in the nature of God who established the First Church. He built it glorious and He will remove it glorious!

Glory to His Mighty Name!!! \o/ \o/ \o/
This was very encouraging to read your post! Thank you. It's nice that you have come across more Christians who are growing closer to God, as well as seeing some small member groups that are forming.

Perhaps I've become jaded in the experiences I've seen and been through recently. I'm witnessing more people falling away and growing cold, which becomes disheartening. Many of the Christians I know don't talk about God publicly, the Bible, or even go to Church anymore. They're too busy focusing on things like Netflix, social media, or becoming successful. There's nothing wrong with these things of course, but there's just very little (if any) mention of God. I also see an increase of unsaved people turning away from the Gospel and wanting nothing to do with it - partly because of how many Christians behave today.

On a brighter note, I love what you mentioned about the Church going out glorious and victorious! That brings hope! :cheer

To all others who have taken the time to reply and share your thoughts, thank you too! :hug It's always great reading everyone's replies in these topics. You are such wonderful family to me, in the body of Christ, and I am thankful to have found this forum and all of you here!
 

Andy C

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do not believe the Church will go out with a whimper. I believe it will go out gloriously
I hesitated to respond to your post because I agreed with all but the above.

Yes, it will be glorious for us who depart with the church, but while the church is still here I dont agree it will be strong again. I think Covid has shown how quick the church can lose its influence. I dont see it ever growing as strong again, and IMO, scripture supports it will be weak, and sadly, could go out with a whimper. His Holy Name has long been removed from public discourse, and its getting worse everyday. Thankfully as you said, some will still be drawn to the Light before the call Home is sounded.
 

kathymendel

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My daughter, Deb, was in northern California with her childhood friend last week, as many of you know.
Deb and Kim were raised in the church..........a sound church who believed in the end times and rapture and preached on it
regularly. Kim's dad was a deacon in the church. And, yet, when Deb tried to talk to Kim about the immenence of
Christ's return for us, Kim's attitude was that she had ten to twenty more years of life ahead of her and she wants to meet
someone and remarry. That is what is at the top of her list. I believe, there are SO MANY Christians that share that same attitude,
for whatever reason. Probably not so much in impoverished nations around the world, but certainly in nations such as ours.
I can't imagine even one thing that could make me want to stay here for one more day..........Come Lord Jesus!!!!

I also believe that God is using this Covid situation to call His saints OUT of today's organized church - or shall we say " country club"
and back to the small groups of serious believers in home,s, and small congregations ..........as in the days of the early church. And, I believe
those small groups will study the Word in much greater depth than what they were getting in the church buildings. So many Christians have been sitting on the fence wanting both worlds for so long..........and, I think God is causing them to make a decision on what they want most. Where does one's love lie? With Christ? Or, with the world and all of it's trappings? If they are true believers, then they are going to "rise up" whether they want
to or not............... if they've been sitting and warming a pew only, they will be left behind. Those of them who finally see the truth at that point
will possibly be the ones to spark a great revival in the trib, perhaps with the help of the 144,000, the witnesses, and the angel. And, certainly,
the Holy Spirit.
 

Cindy S.

When he comes, will he find faith? Luke 18:8
So I've been talking to a close relative about End Times and the Rapture. We've had this talk a few instances already this year, but every time I bring up the Rapture (very excitedly of course) they always tell me, "No, it can't be yet. There needs to be another Great Revival and outpouring of the Holy Spirit first." I'll admit my initial reaction is always feeling deflated. The excitement about the Rapture happening "at any time" gets squelched whenever we get on this topic. :mope

Then I got to thinking and searching in the scriptures. Unless I'm missing it somewhere, there doesn't seem to be any indication of a big revival or turning of souls towards Jesus? In fact, it's quite the opposite. It mentions a great falling away, apostasy, and believers turning from truth - which is exactly what we are seeing in these last days.


"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first..." - 2 Thessalonians 2:3
" Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;..." - 1 Timothy 4:1
" For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." - 2 Timothy 4:3-4
I think all of us here have already seen the increase of churches falling away, abandoning sound doctrine, teaching that is in contradiction of God's word, and a lukewarmness of the Church body. I also hear some pastors who are currently preaching that the Church will be a glorious church, without spot or blemish, and that we can all look forward to a huge outpouring of blessing, favor, and miracles in these years to come - basically that everything is going to get better for us and not worse.

I personally am of the belief that a huge, global-wide revival will not take place before the rapture, because the majority of the world has turned away from God. However, could the rapture possibly trigger repentance and some souls turning to God after it happens? Of course! It makes sense that it could be a big wake up call to those who pushed God away during the church age, and who suddenly realize what has happened. We already know that there will be many who come to believe during the Tribulation, so perhaps this would be the last "great harvest of souls," even though they will end up dying for it.

Now with all of that said, I do realize that there are always pockets of revival going on here and there with people getting saved, but I just don't see it happening in a huge global "revival" event that many are expecting to see happen soon. I could be wrong though!

What do you all think?
How about the great revival after the rapture, there will be multitudes saved.
 

kathymendel

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What a truly loving and merciful God we serve!
Even as He removes His beloved church from this earth to heaven, and spares us from the tribulation to come,
He still loves those who have not chosen Him - to give them yet another chance at eternal life with Him.
It will be a terrible time for them - we cannot even imagine how terrible - but, He will send them a bigger than ever before revival,
and they can still choose Him and have eternal life.
His great love for all of us - in spite of our sin - should humble us before Him.
 

Rocky R.

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So I've been talking to a close relative about End Times and the Rapture. We've had this talk a few instances already this year, but every time I bring up the Rapture (very excitedly of course) they always tell me, "No, it can't be yet. There needs to be another Great Revival and outpouring of the Holy Spirit first." I'll admit my initial reaction is always feeling deflated. The excitement about the Rapture happening "at any time" gets squelched whenever we get on this topic. :mope

Then I got to thinking and searching in the scriptures. Unless I'm missing it somewhere, there doesn't seem to be any indication of a big revival or turning of souls towards Jesus? In fact, it's quite the opposite. It mentions a great falling away, apostasy, and believers turning from truth - which is exactly what we are seeing in these last days.


"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first..." - 2 Thessalonians 2:3
" Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;..." - 1 Timothy 4:1
" For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." - 2 Timothy 4:3-4
I think all of us here have already seen the increase of churches falling away, abandoning sound doctrine, teaching that is in contradiction of God's word, and a lukewarmness of the Church body. I also hear some pastors who are currently preaching that the Church will be a glorious church, without spot or blemish, and that we can all look forward to a huge outpouring of blessing, favor, and miracles in these years to come - basically that everything is going to get better for us and not worse.

I personally am of the belief that a huge, global-wide revival will not take place before the rapture, because the majority of the world has turned away from God. However, could the rapture possibly trigger repentance and some souls turning to God after it happens? Of course! It makes sense that it could be a big wake up call to those who pushed God away during the church age, and who suddenly realize what has happened. We already know that there will be many who come to believe during the Tribulation, so perhaps this would be the last "great harvest of souls," even though they will end up dying for it.

Now with all of that said, I do realize that there are always pockets of revival going on here and there with people getting saved, but I just don't see it happening in a huge global "revival" event that many are expecting to see happen soon. I could be wrong though!

What do you all think?
Well, if individual true believers do their job, we just might see the last great mass-conversion in the United States prior to the Rapture, but not a great worldwide revival. But when the largest and most popular church in America is pastored by Joel Osteen, and with a geat many individuals seeking out teachers to tell them what their itching ears want to hear, you know this is part of the falling away and the Rapture must be close.
 

BlessedAssurance

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I have to share a comment with you all that I read last night, on a video. (I've been reading articles and watching videos relating to prophecies. It's always interesting to read some of the comments on these articles or videos.)

The comment said:
"The next main event is the Rapture of The Body of Christ."

Okay, obviously none of us know the exact timing of God's events, but we do know that things are wrapping up fast and we are told to stay vigilant in watching for our Lord's return. Whether it is the "next main event" or not, we must always be ready. Anyway, the reply to this comment was what got me.

Reply:
"That's silly talk. A complete contradiction of everything the LORD is saying at this time through his prophets. The LORD is about to expose and clear away much wickedness, in preparation for the pouring out of his glory across the earth. The Bride is NOT yet ready for her wedding, and the final harvest of souls, especially among the young, is a long way from complete."

I have to admit I went :rolleyes: after reading that. So it's "silly talk" for a Christian to take note of the late hour which we are in, to warn others, and to look forward to being with our King forever? I also don't know of any scriptures that say the Lord will "clear away much wickedness" in these end days. No, he will send judgement for it. The young may not repent until after the rapture, once things get much more serious. The only thing I will agree on is that yes, much of the Bride is not ready yet, but that's because many have fallen away or become entangled in chasing after life's pleasures. They aren't ready to go because they don't WANT to go yet. For these folks, they simply never will be ready. (Thankfully, as long as a person is saved, they won't be left out of the rapture - even if they aren't preparing for it or wanting it to occur!)
I'm glad there is at least a group and remnant of people who are alert, prepared, and ready to meet Jesus in the air! :raptureHe certainly won't hold His rapture event back when it's time to happen, simply because some refuse to see how close we are or to get ready.
 

Kenny64

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So I've been talking to a close relative about End Times and the Rapture. We've had this talk a few instances already this year, but every time I bring up the Rapture (very excitedly of course) they always tell me, "No, it can't be yet. There needs to be another Great Revival and outpouring of the Holy Spirit first." I'll admit my initial reaction is always feeling deflated. The excitement about the Rapture happening "at any time" gets squelched whenever we get on this topic. :mope

Then I got to thinking and searching in the scriptures. Unless I'm missing it somewhere, there doesn't seem to be any indication of a big revival or turning of souls towards Jesus? In fact, it's quite the opposite. It mentions a great falling away, apostasy, and believers turning from truth - which is exactly what we are seeing in these last days.


"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first..." - 2 Thessalonians 2:3
" Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;..." - 1 Timothy 4:1
" For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." - 2 Timothy 4:3-4
I think all of us here have already seen the increase of churches falling away, abandoning sound doctrine, teaching that is in contradiction of God's word, and a lukewarmness of the Church body. I also hear some pastors who are currently preaching that the Church will be a glorious church, without spot or blemish, and that we can all look forward to a huge outpouring of blessing, favor, and miracles in these years to come - basically that everything is going to get better for us and not worse.

I personally am of the belief that a huge, global-wide revival will not take place before the rapture, because the majority of the world has turned away from God. However, could the rapture possibly trigger repentance and some souls turning to God after it happens? Of course! It makes sense that it could be a big wake up call to those who pushed God away during the church age, and who suddenly realize what has happened. We already know that there will be many who come to believe during the Tribulation, so perhaps this would be the last "great harvest of souls," even though they will end up dying for it.

Now with all of that said, I do realize that there are always pockets of revival going on here and there with people getting saved, but I just don't see it happening in a huge global "revival" event that many are expecting to see happen soon. I could be wrong though!

What do you all think?
Act 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
 

InMidian

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We are not going out as a weak, nearly defeated Body, rescued in the nick of time by Christ. Yes, there is a great falling away underway. Yes, there seem to be more apostate churches all the time. But I am meeting more and more Christians who are now finding themselves really on fire for God, more and more saints returning from backsliding and lukewarmness, and more and more new believers. And I am hearing of this all over.
Thank you for posting this. I have been lukewarm for awhile now, thus my user name, and have felt a stirring to examine my relationship with Jesus and return to the flock, per se.
 

yrrek

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My church is connected with many missionaries around the world and while there doesn’t look like there’s a revival going on here... there are millions coming to Jesus in other parts of the world. The missionary to Iran says the Middle East is hot right now but that church is underground because of persecution. Sooooo just because we don’t see a great revival doesn’t mean there isn’t one happening.
 

Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
My church is connected with many missionaries around the world and while there doesn’t look like there’s a revival going on here... there are millions coming to Jesus in other parts of the world. The missionary to Iran says the Middle East is hot right now but that church is underground because of persecution. Sooooo just because we don’t see a great revival doesn’t mean there isn’t one happening.
Agreed. We should not view things strictly by what is happening in the United States. Our churches here are unusually fat and happy while fellowshipping with the world. While things have gotten a little worse here, everyone still has much more than the rest of the world.

All of these theories are interesting but I truly do not know what God's plan is before the rapture. I know it will be good though.
 

BlessedAssurance

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My church is connected with many missionaries around the world and while there doesn’t look like there’s a revival going on here... there are millions coming to Jesus in other parts of the world. The missionary to Iran says the Middle East is hot right now but that church is underground because of persecution. Sooooo just because we don’t see a great revival doesn’t mean there isn’t one happening.
That's so true. I've heard that some of these persecuted countries are seeing many turn to God since last year, simply due to how hopeless and desperate the people have gotten there. I've also heard that India had many saved in 2020, during COVID of all things! :) Praise God! Also, certain small pockets in California, such as Modesto and other areas, are seeing revival break out.

I still wonder if it will happen on a huge global scale, in the way that many are thinking it will happen (ie: Azuza street style), but to quote what our dear @mattfivefour said in an earlier post, it could be like this:

"Small 20-30-40-50 member groups and assemblies springing up, comprised of newly saved saints and older saints who are responding to a fresh anointing of the Holy Spirit in their lives. I am continually meeting such people who are tired of traditional, dead, social club churches and want to see the power of God in their lives and the lives of others."

I'm just happy knowing that God sees everything and He will have His plan done at exactly the right time. We need not worry about that! :bluesclues
 

BlessedAssurance

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Thank you for posting this. I have been lukewarm for awhile now, thus my user name, and have felt a stirring to examine my relationship with Jesus and return to the flock, per se.
Bless you! :hug

I think too many of us are spoiled to 'it's all about us" that some think God will wait till we are ready.
Yes you're right and admittedly, I am every bit as guilty of being selfish too.

I'm selfish in that I want out of this evil world as soon as possible. I can't take it anymore. My body is tired and I'm fighting health problems that make most days un-enjoyable anymore. I've seen so many brothers and sisters who are also weary and suffering through all of our earthly challenges. This is nothing new because all generations of earth have had suffering to go through, but I do think it's ramped up greatly in these last days. It's like we are being squeezed by vice grips and trying to hang on, even though the pressure is immense. :frown2 We are constantly fighting evil from all sides.

I pray daily to God to give all of us strength, especially those who are suffering, until the very last soul is brought in and we can go home. :cloud9
 

Baby Yoda

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Imo everyone wants revival but again imo it won't happen God is in process of calling individuals to him and won't happen till the rapture where there will be a great awakening and revival at same time.

Maybe all the connections we've made by having social media counts as a revival. I talk much more about God online than I ever did in person.
 

castcrowns

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There will be no revival before the Rapture.

The Church is in the lukewarm Laodecia age, which is the last of the seven Church age characteristics.

In addition, there is much of the Church apostacy occurring presently that the New Testament describes.

However, there will be the greatest revival in human history during the Tribulation...especially during the Great Tribulation.
Multitudes from every ethnicity, country, and language will refuse the Mark of the Beast.

The Two Witnesses and the 144,000 Jewish rabbis will evangelize them within a total of seven years what the Church didn't in 2000 years.
 
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