A Demon's Guide To Postponing Evangelism

Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
I was recently asked the following question on Facebook:
I had a woman come to my door today, wanting to share the gospel. Why is it that even though I know what I believe and why I believe it, that it is so hard to share with others? She was a Jehovah’s Witness, and asked if she could come back to share a scripture again. I told her yes. I will be better prepared next time, but how do I become better prepared?
In Letter 30 of Lord Foulgrin’s Letters, I have one demon instructing another one how to keep a Christian from sharing the gospel…

Postponing Evangelism

My delinquent Squaltaint,

You’re concerned the sludgebag Ryan is encouraging Fletcher to “share his faith.” You blame Dredge for failing to restrain Ryan and assure me you’re sincerely laboring to derail his efforts. In Charis sincerity may matter. All that matters in Erebus is results. Stop whining. Come out of your corner not swinging blindly, but with a thought-through strategy to knock out Fletcher.

Since it’s what the Enemy uses to change vermin destinations from hell to heaven, obviously you must keep Fletcher from evangelism. But don’t bother trying to convince him it’s bad to evangelize. Let him think it’s good, admirable. Just as long as he doesn’t actually do it.

The best strategy is to keep him from grasping the stakes, so he has no sense of urgency. Even Bible-believing churches help us here. According to the records you sent, in the past ten years Fletcher’s pastor has preached only one message on heaven and none on hell. That track record will presumably continue, and Fletcher will get the impression eternity is unimportant. He’ll think of hell as unreal and heaven as intangible and undesirable. Both will seem like fantasy realms with no bearing on his present earthly life.

Next, persuade your maggot-feeder he must be low-key, careful not to bowl unbelievers over with his new faith, lest they see him as a fanatic and get “turned off.” By all means don’t let it occur to him to quietly tell them what the Enemy has done for him. Let him imagine that this should be done gradually, only when they ask, or only after a long (as in endless) period of being a “good example.”

No man is won to the Enemy simply by the moral behavior of another. No one has ever gone to heaven just because he saw a good example. No one has ever escaped hell because some other man was a Christian.

Let Fletcher be a “good example” until he’s blue in the face—as long as he doesn’t explain the forbidden message. Look around you, Squaltaint, and you’ll see innumerable Christian sludgebags who’ve been good neighbors and model coworkers for decades. But they’ve never actually told those around them what it means to be a Christian. Many of them imagine by now the message has somehow magically gotten across, but of course it hasn’t. Excellent.

Fletcher made the statement to Ryan he’d like to share the gospel with his wife and mother-in-law “when the time is right”? This frightened you, but it can work to our advantage. Don’t let him grasp the Enemy’s notion that evangelism is one beggar telling another where to find bread. Instead, turn evangelism into something more complex or obscure, something that will happen one day, but never today.

Fill him with an irrational dread of bringing up the Carpenter and the forbidden message in conversation. If the vermin analyzed it, they’d be on to us. What else but our efforts could explain why they get so apprehensive about doing for someone what they believe is the biggest favor in the universe—telling them about the Enemy’s plan to save them from hell and give them heaven?

Don’t let Fletcher ask himself why a man from Portland should care about what a man from Chicago thinks of him as they both fly to Philadelphia. Why, when he will never see this man again (unless he accepts the message, in which case he’ll be deeply grateful), should he be so frightened of the man’s rejection? Why would they feel so hesitant about telling people what’s clearly in their best interests? Don’t let the obvious absurdity settle in, or he may catch on it’s we who are playing tricks on his tiny mind, fueling this irrational fear.

Never let him see the incongruity of how he could talk with someone on that airplane and share a myriad of opinions about business and politics, and make a case for why a team will win the Super Bowl, but dare not make a case for the Carpenter. Don’t let it dawn on him they’re all going to die soon. Perhaps in an hour, a day, a week, a year, at most a few decades. Never let death seem imminent.

The one thing they consider most important to talk about eventually is the one thing they can’t talk about now. Our perfect timing, our “just the right moment” boils down to this: never, until it’s too late.

Keep him ignorant of church history and forbidden squadrons across the globe. The Enemy may try to point out to him that while his brethren risk imprisonment and death, Fletcher is unwilling to hazard a raised eyebrow or a disapproving glance.

Jordan’s been thinking about sharing the forbidden message with his own father too? I see the geezer’s health is bad, that Scuzfroth predicts a heart attack within a month. Good—he’ll be in hell before you know it. Fathers are hardest of all. Your report says your vermin’s father intimidated him, called the shots, and now thinks his son’s new faith is a passing phase, part of a “midlife crisis.”

Quick death is the best we can hope for with unbelievers. If he doesn’t die immediately, prompt Fletcher to watch him waste away. Let him visit him, tenderly care for him, and lovingly “respect his wishes” not to hear the forbidden message.

Consider the extent of our accomplishment—they would rather see a loved one go to hell than be seen as pushy by insisting on telling him the truth. The Enemy calls them to be truth tellers in the name of love. We call them to be truth withholders in the name of “not being pushy.” Don’t let it dawn on him that one moment after he and his father die they’ll both regret the same thing—that he didn’t tell his father the truth one last time (in some cases, one first time).

It’s delicious what we’ve pulled off here—Christian family, hospice workers, nurses and doctors caring for the dying, and in the interests of ethics or professionalism withholding what their patients long for. Christian counselors meet with troubled, desperate people whose lives have fallen apart. But because they came to get help with their addictions or their marriages, the counselors consider it unethical to exploit them by sharing the forbidden message. We have countless Christian teachers dealing with lonely, troubled, and desperate students. They could speak to them about the Carpenter, but don’t because they fear reprisals or have no sense of urgency.

Think of it—our prey cite endless ethical and legal reasons for not obeying the Enemy’s command!

Delay. Procrastinate. Postpone. This is our evangelism strategy. If we do our job, people will die of thirst a few feet away from water bearers who don’t want to impose their water on others.

“I’ll share the truth when the time is right,” your vermin Fletcher said. Your job is simple—make sure the time is never right.

Populating hell one image-bearer at a time,

Lord Foulgrin

One rule I go by—the biggest obstacle is just opening your mouth and starting talking about the Lord and the gospel. Once you start, you’re committed. It’s speaking the first words. I tell myself, stop waiting and praying for the opportunity, this IS the opportunity, and once I start, the pump is primed and God guides. Of course, studying Scripture to know the gospel you’re sharing is vital too.

Alcorn, R., 2020. How Can I Be Better Prepared For Evangelism?. [online] Living Waters. Available at: <https://www.livingwaters.com/how-can-i-be-better-prepared-for-evangelism/> [Accessed 16 July 2020].
 

cheeky200386

Well-Known Member
I was recently asked the following question on Facebook:

In Letter 30 of Lord Foulgrin’s Letters, I have one demon instructing another one how to keep a Christian from sharing the gospel…

Postponing Evangelism

My delinquent Squaltaint,

You’re concerned the sludgebag Ryan is encouraging Fletcher to “share his faith.” You blame Dredge for failing to restrain Ryan and assure me you’re sincerely laboring to derail his efforts. In Charis sincerity may matter. All that matters in Erebus is results. Stop whining. Come out of your corner not swinging blindly, but with a thought-through strategy to knock out Fletcher.

Since it’s what the Enemy uses to change vermin destinations from hell to heaven, obviously you must keep Fletcher from evangelism. But don’t bother trying to convince him it’s bad to evangelize. Let him think it’s good, admirable. Just as long as he doesn’t actually do it.

The best strategy is to keep him from grasping the stakes, so he has no sense of urgency. Even Bible-believing churches help us here. According to the records you sent, in the past ten years Fletcher’s pastor has preached only one message on heaven and none on hell. That track record will presumably continue, and Fletcher will get the impression eternity is unimportant. He’ll think of hell as unreal and heaven as intangible and undesirable. Both will seem like fantasy realms with no bearing on his present earthly life.

Next, persuade your maggot-feeder he must be low-key, careful not to bowl unbelievers over with his new faith, lest they see him as a fanatic and get “turned off.” By all means don’t let it occur to him to quietly tell them what the Enemy has done for him. Let him imagine that this should be done gradually, only when they ask, or only after a long (as in endless) period of being a “good example.”

No man is won to the Enemy simply by the moral behavior of another. No one has ever gone to heaven just because he saw a good example. No one has ever escaped hell because some other man was a Christian.

Let Fletcher be a “good example” until he’s blue in the face—as long as he doesn’t explain the forbidden message. Look around you, Squaltaint, and you’ll see innumerable Christian sludgebags who’ve been good neighbors and model coworkers for decades. But they’ve never actually told those around them what it means to be a Christian. Many of them imagine by now the message has somehow magically gotten across, but of course it hasn’t. Excellent.

Fletcher made the statement to Ryan he’d like to share the gospel with his wife and mother-in-law “when the time is right”? This frightened you, but it can work to our advantage. Don’t let him grasp the Enemy’s notion that evangelism is one beggar telling another where to find bread. Instead, turn evangelism into something more complex or obscure, something that will happen one day, but never today.

Fill him with an irrational dread of bringing up the Carpenter and the forbidden message in conversation. If the vermin analyzed it, they’d be on to us. What else but our efforts could explain why they get so apprehensive about doing for someone what they believe is the biggest favor in the universe—telling them about the Enemy’s plan to save them from hell and give them heaven?

Don’t let Fletcher ask himself why a man from Portland should care about what a man from Chicago thinks of him as they both fly to Philadelphia. Why, when he will never see this man again (unless he accepts the message, in which case he’ll be deeply grateful), should he be so frightened of the man’s rejection? Why would they feel so hesitant about telling people what’s clearly in their best interests? Don’t let the obvious absurdity settle in, or he may catch on it’s we who are playing tricks on his tiny mind, fueling this irrational fear.

Never let him see the incongruity of how he could talk with someone on that airplane and share a myriad of opinions about business and politics, and make a case for why a team will win the Super Bowl, but dare not make a case for the Carpenter. Don’t let it dawn on him they’re all going to die soon. Perhaps in an hour, a day, a week, a year, at most a few decades. Never let death seem imminent.

The one thing they consider most important to talk about eventually is the one thing they can’t talk about now. Our perfect timing, our “just the right moment” boils down to this: never, until it’s too late.

Keep him ignorant of church history and forbidden squadrons across the globe. The Enemy may try to point out to him that while his brethren risk imprisonment and death, Fletcher is unwilling to hazard a raised eyebrow or a disapproving glance.

Jordan’s been thinking about sharing the forbidden message with his own father too? I see the geezer’s health is bad, that Scuzfroth predicts a heart attack within a month. Good—he’ll be in hell before you know it. Fathers are hardest of all. Your report says your vermin’s father intimidated him, called the shots, and now thinks his son’s new faith is a passing phase, part of a “midlife crisis.”

Quick death is the best we can hope for with unbelievers. If he doesn’t die immediately, prompt Fletcher to watch him waste away. Let him visit him, tenderly care for him, and lovingly “respect his wishes” not to hear the forbidden message.

Consider the extent of our accomplishment—they would rather see a loved one go to hell than be seen as pushy by insisting on telling him the truth. The Enemy calls them to be truth tellers in the name of love. We call them to be truth withholders in the name of “not being pushy.” Don’t let it dawn on him that one moment after he and his father die they’ll both regret the same thing—that he didn’t tell his father the truth one last time (in some cases, one first time).

It’s delicious what we’ve pulled off here—Christian family, hospice workers, nurses and doctors caring for the dying, and in the interests of ethics or professionalism withholding what their patients long for. Christian counselors meet with troubled, desperate people whose lives have fallen apart. But because they came to get help with their addictions or their marriages, the counselors consider it unethical to exploit them by sharing the forbidden message. We have countless Christian teachers dealing with lonely, troubled, and desperate students. They could speak to them about the Carpenter, but don’t because they fear reprisals or have no sense of urgency.

Think of it—our prey cite endless ethical and legal reasons for not obeying the Enemy’s command!

Delay. Procrastinate. Postpone. This is our evangelism strategy. If we do our job, people will die of thirst a few feet away from water bearers who don’t want to impose their water on others.

“I’ll share the truth when the time is right,” your vermin Fletcher said. Your job is simple—make sure the time is never right.

Populating hell one image-bearer at a time,

Lord Foulgrin

One rule I go by—the biggest obstacle is just opening your mouth and starting talking about the Lord and the gospel. Once you start, you’re committed. It’s speaking the first words. I tell myself, stop waiting and praying for the opportunity, this IS the opportunity, and once I start, the pump is primed and God guides. Of course, studying Scripture to know the gospel you’re sharing is vital too.

Alcorn, R., 2020. How Can I Be Better Prepared For Evangelism?. [online] Living Waters. Available at: <https://www.livingwaters.com/how-can-i-be-better-prepared-for-evangelism/> [Accessed 16 July 2020].

This is my struggle as a Christian Counselor. I never know when to share the Gospel with unbelieving clients and worry it will be seen as being unethical. Yet writing this I see I am to obey God and not man's laws. This is a real battle for me. I need prayer badly on this one and will pray also.
 

Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
This is my struggle as a Christian Counselor. I never know when to share the Gospel with unbelieving clients and worry it will be seen as being unethical. Yet writing this I see I am to obey God and not man's laws. This is a real battle for me. I need prayer badly on this one and will pray also.

It's not easy... I am always apprehensive about sharing my faith, especially in the workplace. I think it is natural. Yet there is something so eerily true about this article...
Why would they feel so hesitant about telling people what’s clearly in their best interests? Don’t let the obvious absurdity settle in, or he may catch on it’s we who are playing tricks on his tiny mind, fueling this irrational fear.
I think what I might do in your situation is ask your client honestly. Give a disclaimer and say that there is something you would like to speak to them about "off the record" or if it is more comfortable, you could ask them "after the session" when you are "off the clock." You could ask them if they would like you to speak to them about something that is typically looked down upon by your industry but its the best news you ever received and it changed your life.

From there, if you get permission, just tell them that you felt God was leading you to tell them something.

I love how the huge biker on "Sons of Thunder" (PureFlix series) just says "Hey, do you know Jesus?
 
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Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
I am going through a study right now of aligning with the Holy Spirit to engage in the Father's work that is always taking place around us. It's pretty insightful.
  1. The Father has been working right up until now.
  2. Now God has me working.
  3. I do nothing on my own initiative.
  4. I watch to see what the Father is doing.
  5. I do what I see the Father already is doing.
  6. You see, the Father loves me.
  7. He shows me everything that He, Himself, is doing.
God the Father is always at work around us. The Holy Spirit and the Word of God will instruct us and help us know when and where God is working. Once we know where He is working, we can adjust our lives to join Him where he is working (takes all of the pressure off of us!).

Jesus Himself explains this:

[John 5:17, 19-20 NKJV] 17 But Jesus answered them, "My Father has been working until now, and I have been working." ... 19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. 20 "For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel.
 
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cheeky200386

Well-Known Member
I am going through a study right now of aligning with the Holy Spirit to engage in the Father's work that is always taking place around us. It's pretty insightful.
  1. The Father has been working right up until now.
  2. Now God has me working.
  3. I do nothing on my own initiative.
  4. I watch to see what the Father is doing.
  5. I do what I see the Father already is doing.
  6. You see, the Father loves me.
  7. He shows me everything that He, Himself, is doing.
God the Father is always at work around us. The Holy Spirit and the Word of God will instruct us and help us know when and where God is working. Once we know where He is working, we can adjust our lives to join Him where he is working (takes all of the pressure off of us!).

Jesus Himself explains this:

This was an amazing post. Something I definitely need to remember when sharing the Gospel. I just never know when the right time to share it is. Sometimes it feels forced and random. I need to get out of God's way it seems.
 

Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
This was an amazing post. Something I definitely need to remember when sharing the Gospel. I just never know when the right time to share it is. Sometimes it feels forced and random. I need to get out of God's way it seems.

You may be in a great position to watch for what the Father is doing. You just need to talk to God and ask Him to show you "little breadcrumbs" that you can present subtly. Check out the woman at the well discourse with Jesus. He didn't just come out and say He was the Messiah. He engaged in a relational and loving conversation with the woman and it flowed from there. It was very natural and not forced at all. When you start feeling nervous or pressured that's the devil messing with you. Just ignore him and ask for the Father's guidance on how to proceed. He will answer.

You already do most of this for your career, that's half the battle there. What a blessing it is.
 

cheeky200386

Well-Known Member
You may be in a great position to watch for what the Father is doing. You just need to talk to God and ask Him to show you "little breadcrumbs" that you can present subtly. Check out the woman at the well discourse with Jesus. He didn't just come out and say He was the Messiah. He engaged in a relational and loving conversation with the woman and it flowed from there. It was very natural and not forced at all. When you start feeling nervous or pressured that's the devil messing with you. Just ignore him and ask for the Father's guidance on how to proceed. He will answer.

You already do most of this for your career, that's half the battle there. What a blessing it is.

Thank you for this much needed reminder. I love this example. I'll have to reread that exchange.
 

cheeky200386

Well-Known Member
You may be in a great position to watch for what the Father is doing. You just need to talk to God and ask Him to show you "little breadcrumbs" that you can present subtly. Check out the woman at the well discourse with Jesus. He didn't just come out and say He was the Messiah. He engaged in a relational and loving conversation with the woman and it flowed from there. It was very natural and not forced at all. When you start feeling nervous or pressured that's the devil messing with you. Just ignore him and ask for the Father's guidance on how to proceed. He will answer.

You already do most of this for your career, that's half the battle there. What a blessing it is.

I find it hard to not feel like a failure if I don't fully present the Gospel message at every conversation. I sometimes wonder if gentle nudges towards the Truth are enough to please our Lord.
 

Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
I find it hard to not feel like a failure if I don't fully present the Gospel message at every conversation. I sometimes wonder if gentle nudges towards the Truth are enough to please our Lord.

The Lord is already fully pleased with you. There is nothing else you can do to make Him "like" you more.

The Lord being more/less pleased with you is such a subtle demonic lie. Remember you have put on Christ's righteousness through faith in Jesus. God sees you as He sees Christ. You know this but the devil doesn't want you to believe in it or walk in this truth by faith.

Now don't get me wrong, you can ignore the Holy Spirit and drift out of fellowship with the Lord. But the Lord is still right there with you even if you drift away.

What I meant by the subtle nudges was to test the waters. Is the Father working salvation out in this person's life right now? Ask Him. Ask our Father what He wants you to do/say. Sometimes there is a time to be quiet. Remember the seeds that got eaten right away by the sparrows. My flesh/devil loves to try to take over when someone is not accepting the Gospel and I need to "work harder" to get it done. This can do damage.

I hope all this makes sense and doesn't seem too "spiritual" I am still learning a lot about this and it is definitely a weakness of mine going to the Holy Spirit first for everything even in my thoughts and preconceived actions.

I am also typing on my phone :lol
 

cheeky200386

Well-Known Member
The Lord is already fully pleased with you. There is nothing else you can do to make Him "like" you more.

The Lord being more/less pleased with you is such a subtle demonic lie. Remember you have put on Christ's righteousness through faith in Jesus. God sees you as He sees Christ. You know this but the devil doesn't want you to believe in it or walk in this truth by faith.

Now don't get me wrong, you can ignore the Holy Spirit and drift out of fellowship with the Lord. But the Lord is still right there with you even if you drift away.

What I meant by the subtle nudges was to test the waters. Is the Father working salvation out in this person's life right now? Ask Him. Ask our Father what He wants you to do/say. Sometimes there is a time to be quiet. Remember the seeds that got eaten right away by the sparrows. My flesh/devil loves to try to take over when someone is not accepting the Gospel and I need to "work harder" to get it done. This can do damage.

I hope all this makes sense and doesn't seem too "spiritual" I am still learning a lot about this and it is definitely a weakness of mine going to the Holy Spirit first for everything even in my thoughts and preconceived actions.

I am also typing on my phone :lol

This makes perfect sense. I have done that do of trying to force conversion. Yeah it doesn't work. I have gotten better at recognizing when to stop sharing with mockers.
 

Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
The OP reminders me very much of CS Lewis's The Screwtape Letters..

A true Christian classic. I would also highly recommend Warren Wiersbe's The Strategy of Satan.

One of my favorite sections in Wiersbe's book is when he explains how the devil will entice you into a sin telling you how great it will be and God will forgive you etc, etc, etc. Then, after you have committed the sin that he enticed you to commit, the same devil will turn around and condemn you and tell you how bad you are and God is so disappointed with you etc, etc, etc.
 

MichelleinFl

Well-Known Member
This is an old post so not sure if anyone will see it, but I struggle too :-( I’m a mail carrier and I have no problems telling people about my faith or prophetic connections to current events- but it’s so hard not knowing my space at work- I could definitely get in trouble and cause a lot of issues for sharing while on the route if people choose to call and complain...but I find so many hurting :-(

lm asking for prayer for myself to always have the proper answer when people ask why I’m so happy or different, please pray I’d allow the Holy Spirit to guide my words, thoughts, attitudes, and actions.

A lonely woman on my route has been opening up A LOT to me recently- she’s 30yrs older than I am, but she is super lonely and isolated. I asked her a couple weeks ago if she’d be open to attending a church, that I meet a lot of super friendly people through my church, I’ve made little “praise the Lord!” or “thank You Jesus!” comments, so she knows my faith. Well today we were chatting about driving at night, and I said I hallucinate and “see” dogs crossing the road so I don’t drive at night much, and somehow she turned that into a religious talk and went down the path as to how evangelicals are so hurtful and harmful and she had an evangelical friend who said gays were a sin and now they don’t talk....I never said anything about my faith today, so have no idea where this came from- I wanted to say my part, but then I remember I’m on-the-clock and she’s obviously very hurt by someone. Please pray for Karen to be open to hear about the Lord, to be delivered from the bondage she’s in, to allow the Holy Spirit to move in her life. Please pray for healing and a heart of forgiveness and grace to move past this hurt. Please pray for God to reveal Himself in undeniable, mind-blowing, supernatural ways to her. Please pray He’s still using me and I haven’t screwed up yet.

thank you :)
 

Umbrella Girl

Now we see through a glass, darkly; (1 Cor 13:12)
This is excellent! And it reminds me of “The Screwtape Letters” by CS Lewis.
 

ReadyOrNot

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This is an old post so not sure if anyone will see it, but I struggle too :-( I’m a mail carrier and I have no problems telling people about my faith or prophetic connections to current events- but it’s so hard not knowing my space at work- I could definitely get in trouble and cause a lot of issues for sharing while on the route if people choose to call and complain...but I find so many hurting :-(

lm asking for prayer for myself to always have the proper answer when people ask why I’m so happy or different, please pray I’d allow the Holy Spirit to guide my words, thoughts, attitudes, and actions.

A lonely woman on my route has been opening up A LOT to me recently- she’s 30yrs older than I am, but she is super lonely and isolated. I asked her a couple weeks ago if she’d be open to attending a church, that I meet a lot of super friendly people through my church, I’ve made little “praise the Lord!” or “thank You Jesus!” comments, so she knows my faith. Well today we were chatting about driving at night, and I said I hallucinate and “see” dogs crossing the road so I don’t drive at night much, and somehow she turned that into a religious talk and went down the path as to how evangelicals are so hurtful and harmful and she had an evangelical friend who said gays were a sin and now they don’t talk....I never said anything about my faith today, so have no idea where this came from- I wanted to say my part, but then I remember I’m on-the-clock and she’s obviously very hurt by someone. Please pray for Karen to be open to hear about the Lord, to be delivered from the bondage she’s in, to allow the Holy Spirit to move in her life. Please pray for healing and a heart of forgiveness and grace to move past this hurt. Please pray for God to reveal Himself in undeniable, mind-blowing, supernatural ways to her. Please pray He’s still using me and I haven’t screwed up yet.

thank you :)
I’m praying for you- that you won’t give the idea that you’ve ‘messed up’ another thought and that you (and I!) will have more confidence in sharing our faith. I may have said this elsewhere on the forum, but it was encouraging to me when I read an article about a study/questionnaire that was done with new believers. It was determined that an average of 20 episodes of Christians witnessing or some other prompting from the Lord in a nonbelievers life take place before the person accepts Christ! So don’t be discouraged if you share your faith and it seem to have no effect or there is even a poor reaction from the person you are speaking with- you’ve still contributed! And maybe your conversation was #7 or #10 or #19......:thumbup
 
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