A Christian's Rights

mattfivefour

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THIS POST WAS ORIGINALLY POSTED BY HANNAH IN ANOTHER THREAD. IT IS SUCH A KEY BIBLE TEACHING FOR CHRISTIANS TODAY THAT I WANTED TO GIVE IT ITS OWN THREAD.

Often Christians want their rights. We want this right and that right. Oh we can't live without our rights.

Jesus emptied Himself and gave up HIS rights, to die a death He didn't deserve.

Jesus didn't die to give us earthly freedoms but to be FREE to follow Him and Obey Him. We have been freed from sin and death and given eternal life.

Whatever rights we have taken from us here on earth and whatever suffering we must go through God knows about and He is allowing.

If you want to exercise your rights go out and witness. When you do recall what happened to the Apostles when they exercised their Christian rights (not their worldly rights).

AC 5:40 His speech persuaded them. They called the apostles in and had them flogged. Then they ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go.

AC 5:41 The apostles left the Sanhedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy of suffering disgrace for the Name.


MT 10:21 "Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 22 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

LK 12:8 "I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God. 9 But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God. 10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

LK 12:11 "When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say, 12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that time what you should say."
The expectation for Christians since the days of Jesus is that we will have our freedoms curtailed and we will be persecuted, beaten, jailed and some even killed because Satan hates God and all that are His and Satan desires to stop us from spreading the gospel.

God is not going to tie up Satan and his demons and all who follow him to make it easy for us on this earth. Do not expect to have freedoms that make our task here on earth easier. Jesus didn't say take up your freedoms and follow me, but take up your Cross and for good reason.

2CO 1:8 We do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about the hardships we suffered in the province of Asia. We were under great pressure, far beyond our ability to endure, so that we despaired even of life. 9 Indeed, in our hearts we felt the sentence of death. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God, who raises the dead.
We cannot expect our lives here on earth to be free to do as we please but God often curtails our freedoms and we suffer in order to learn to rely on God and to not run off into sin but to be obedient just as Christ was obedient and the this is what has been experienced by God's people through out the ages. Not freedom but suffering. It is THROUGH suffering that we learn to serve God even Jesus suffered to serve God.

HEB 5:7 During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. 8 Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9 and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him 10 and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek.

HEB 11:32 And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel and the prophets, 33 who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. 35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. 37 They were stoned; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated-- 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.

HEB 11:39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. 40 God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
I prefer freedom to slavery. I prefer an easy comfortable life to suffering. Unfortunately mankind just can't control themselves and God will take away our freedoms to bring about His purposes in our lives. I have noted that I am more willing to follow God's ways in my life when things are hard and my freedom is curtailed than when I am able to run FREE. When I am healthy and strong and able I find all sorts of things to do and some of that is not in God's plan for my life. Not necessarily bad things but I can really distract myself with what I want to do rather than be occupied with what God desires for me to be doing. Suffering sickness and losing my physical freedom I have been shaped and molded and matured in Christ. Having our freedom doesn't always bring us to be obedient and willing to do God's work in our lives. Often in suffering we are more usable to God.

So they legislate we cannot preach Christ openly. Should that stop a Christian? No a Christian should continue to Preach the gospel and be prepared to suffer as have many people of God in the past. Often the Word of God spreads faster in nations where there is persecution than in nations where there is all the religious freedom and all freedom of speech under the sun. China is a good example of how in a nation where freedom of speech & religion is not encouraged and there are so many coming to Christ.

I don't want my rights or freedom if it is going to impede the work of God. Jesus suffered, the apostles suffered, the early church suffered and many Christians have been persecuted and suffered for the gospel. Many of them served God in situations where they were not many freedoms or human rights.
 
Yes great post!!

I don't know if we are allowed to add anything here, but these scriptures came to mind.

Mat 16:22 Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, "God forbid it, Lord! This shall never happen to You."
Mat 16:23 But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on God's interests, but man's."
Mat 16:24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.
Mat 16:25 "For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
Mat 16:26 "For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

2Co 5:15 and He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf.

It often seems for many of us, that one of the hardest things for us to give up for the sake of 'God's interests' are our rights.

I am not from the US, so forgive me if perhaps I lack understanding.
For those who agree with the main point of Hannah's post, how do you (as a Christian) balance that with the very loud demands from many, about constitutional rights being potentially infringed?

I can understand it from the none believer, who does not profess to follow or want to follow Jesus Christ, as they only have man's interests at heart, but I really struggle to understand the same loud demands made by Christians.
 

Brother Albert R.

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Yes great post!!

I don't know if we are allowed to add anything here, but these scriptures came to mind.

Mat 16:22 Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, "God forbid it, Lord! This shall never happen to You."
Mat 16:23 But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on God's interests, but man's."
Mat 16:24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.
Mat 16:25 "For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
Mat 16:26 "For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

2Co 5:15 and He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf.

It often seems for many of us, that one of the hardest things for us to give up for the sake of 'God's interests' are our rights.

I am not from the US, so forgive me if perhaps I lack understanding.
For those who agree with the main point of Hannah's post, how do you (as a Christian) balance that with the very loud demands from many, about constitutional rights being potentially infringed?

I can understand it from the none believer, who does not profess to follow or want to follow Jesus Christ, as they only have man's interests at heart, but I really struggle to understand the same loud demands made by Christians.
Can you restate your question to be more direct. What rights are you referring to. There is a saying that goes like this,

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.



In Ecclesiastes we read,
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 New International Version (NIV)
A Time for Everything


3 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:

2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.

God bless,
Brother Albert
 

ItIsFinished!

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If you serve the Lord you will suffer.
Different situations for different people, but if you serve the Lord you will be attacked which will result in some fashion of suffering.
I lost several "friends" for the cause of Christ.
And many family members have ostracized me for my beliefs in Christ and His Word.
Many upon many said Jesus Christ was a lunatic.
They beat Him beyond recognition, spit upon Him, mocked Him , then nailed Him to a cross.
He was buried in a BORROWED tomb and rose the third day according to The Holy Scriptures.
Yeah... He was a lunatic huh...
 
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