666 and RFID chips

Alexander Pope wrote:

A little learning is a dangerous thing;
Drink deep or taste not the Pierian spring.
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.


(In Greek mythology the Pierian spring was a fountain which was sacred to the Muses and imparted learning to anyone who drank from it.)

There are times when having just a little learning about what the Bible says can be a dangerous thing.

Most people have heard of the mark of the beast and they know that it is associated with the number 666 but don’t know anything else about it. One result is that many people are afraid they will take the mark without meaning to and be eternally condemned as a result. Here are two examples.

The first is from a news story by UPI.

A Kentucky high school student athlete declined to participate in her team’s cross-country race after she was assigned the number 666, saying it would have gone against her religious beliefs.

The number 666 is often associated with the biblical “mark of the beast.”


The second is a post on a Christian forum.

Hey guys so I’m 17 and after high school I would like to join the military (AIR FORCE!!!) but I’ve read online they might start RFIDing soldiers. I’m worried if I do enlist I will be forced to get the chip and if it turns out to be the mark of the beast…well I’m done for I guess. So can someone tell me about this? Are they really going to do this? If so is the RFID chip the actual mark of the beast? I would appreciate any help I can get guys.

Are their fears justified? The best way to answer this question is to look at what the Bible actually says about the mark of the beast. First the beast is introduced.

And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority.

One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast. And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?”

Revelation 13:1-4 ESV

The beast will receive power and authority from the dragon, Satan, and will become an object of worship for the whole world.

And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them.

And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain. If anyone has an ear, let him hear:

If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.


Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.
Revelation 13:5-10 ESV

Then a second beast is introduced.

Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed.

It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived.

And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.

Revelation 13:11-15 ESV

Finally everyone on the earth is required to take the mark.

Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

Revelation 13:16-18 ESV

The mark of the beast will be given at a time when the beast is ruling the earth and is already requiring that he be worshipped. An order will be issued requiring everyone to take the mark. There will be laws in effect that forbid anyone without the mark to buy or sell. None of those conditions exist today so it isn’t possible for anyone to receive the mark now.

The number 666 will be associated in some way with the beast but now it is just a number like any other. It is simply one more than 665 and one less than 667. It might not even be the number of the beast. There are some manuscripts of Revelation that have the number 616 instead.

It is possible that taking the mark may include implanting an RFID chip as a means of identification but if that is true the chip itself won’t be the mark; it will only be a tool used to implement it. An RFID chip is simply a device that can be used for either good or evil purposes. Perhaps the beast will use it for evil; that shouldn’t keep others from using it for good.

Sometimes having only a little knowledge can be dangerous; the way to remove this danger is to acquire more knowledge. If you are afraid you might accidentally take the mark the best way to overcome your fear is to study Bible prophecy to learn more about what will happen in the future.
 

Endangered

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Taking the official Mark of the Beast requires one to make a decision to accept the Mark. Any chip you receive today does not require that decision.
The Bible says you are lost forever to God if you take the Mark.
Taking the Mark when you understand the consequences dooms you to the Lake of Fire.
I dont see any problems getting chipped today. And the Mark may not be a chip but it may a visible mark on the hand or forehead. A visible mark identifies one as marked by the Beast and one without the visible mark as needing to be reported.
My best guess is a visible mark using some technology that will scan.
Satan has a huge ego because he wants the whole world to worship him. I think a visible mark would be what Satan would want.
 

SonSeeker

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Great post, puddleglum. And I agree, "A little learning is a dangerous thing."
I have studied enough through the years to understand the meaning of 666 and that no one will take it by mistake, or without their full knowledge of what they are doing. But, if I was that girl running the race, I wouldn't wear that number, either! No particular reason, just "because".
One other comment, if I may. Many of us, myself included, have been ridiculed, or at least, questioned regarding our belief in End Times Prophecy, and specifically, that we are the chosen generation to see these things.
I was born in 1949, so will I be privileged to see all these things come to pass? Only God knows. But there is one thing I do know, and that is this. We are living at a time when all the technology spoken of in the Bible is no longer science fiction. It is "science fact"! No other generation has had instant communication throughout the world thanks to cell-phones, computers, and the internet. We now understand specifically "how" The Two Witnesses' bodies will be visible throughout the entire world instantly and continuously. We now have the ability to chip anyone who wishes to be chipped; and the chip can easily be programmed to permit or deny anyone to buy and sell, or not. We now have the ability to construct robots, admittedly a bit archaic, that can walk and talk, etc. Just give that one a year or two tops. We also are getting this thing called "artificial intelligence". If they pair that with the robots, we could be in trouble.
I think you get the picture.
Even so, come Lord Jesus!
 
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Andy C

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Taking the official Mark of the Beast requires one to make a decision to accept the Mark. Any chip you receive today does not require that decision.
The Bible says you are lost forever to God if you take the Mark.
Taking the Mark when you understand the consequences dooms you to the Lake of Fire.
I dont see any problems getting chipped today. And the Mark may not be a chip but it may a visible mark on the hand or forehead. A visible mark identifies one as marked by the Beast and one without the visible mark as needing to be reported.
My best guess is a visible mark using some technology that will scan.
Satan has a huge ego because he wants the whole world to worship him. I think a visible mark would be what Satan would want.
Concur!

Additionally, Angels will warn all about the consequences of taking the MOB, so there will be no accidental acceptance of the MOB.

Revelation 14:
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
 
No other generation has had instant communication throughout the world thanks to cell-phones, computers, and the internet. We now understand specifically "how" The Two Witnesses' bodies will be visible throughout the entire world instantly and continuously. We now have the ability to chip anyone who wishes to be chipped; and the chip can easily be programmed to permit or deny anyone to buy and sell, or not. We now have the ability to construct robots, admittedly a bit archaic, that can walk and talk, etc. Just give that one a year or two tops. We also are getting this thing called "artificial intelligence". If they pair that with the robots, we could be in trouble.
I agree completely. That is why I think the time for the rapture is getting close.
 

Len

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just a thought, but I guess for a lot of people living during the time that requires them to take the MOB and the fear of the alternative (beheading) for not taking it, is much more terrifying
 
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AnewcreationinJesus

Soon and very soon ....
I wouldn't get chipped myself - to me it's all part of the brainwashing of the public which moves towards that beast system, we are very much in times that call good evil and evil good - to me it really is only a matter of time, where each day that 70th week of Daniel draws ever closer, in fact in times that seem "business as usual" but are anything but !! Only the father knows the timing and it's a case of ...

:hmmm
 

Andy C

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I wouldn't get chipped myself - to me it's all part of the brainwashing of the public which moves towards that beast system, we are very much in times that call good evil and evil good - to me it really is only a matter of time, where each day that 70th week of Daniel draws ever closer, in fact in times that seem "business as usual" but are anything but !! Only the father knows the timing and it's a case of ...

:hmmm
For the record, I would not get chipped either, but only because I dont trust most technology.
 

Len

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I wouldn't get chipped myself - to me it's all part of the brainwashing of the public
Just a thought but in it says that by "sorcery" all the nations are decieved, depending on what way you want to view that particular word but I have always thought it was through rampant drug use by the masses though it could be ALL of the things that this word involves when you look at strongs words. ..... just thinking out loud.

Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

The KJV translates Strong's G5331 in the following manner: sorcery (2x), witchcraft (1x).
* the use or the administering of drugs
* poisoning
* sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
* metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry
 

AnewcreationinJesus

Soon and very soon ....
I find it interesting to compare revelation 17 and 18 with Isaiah 47, which makes more references to Babylon sorceries, spells, astrologers...the 3 chapters contain many links concerning babylon..

...I do believe that chipping is part of the media conditioning the masses, whether it's the "ease" of paying for goods even with chip and pin, or "safety and security" re chipping animals, the media is built on feeding lies to the public so anything it promotes I am suspicious of!! Off topic a bit, but I heard recently the media was reporting there were "12 kings" instead of the three kings mentioned in the Bible. Now, am I going to believe the media casting doubt on God's word yet again, or am I going to stand in the truth of God's word?!

:knight
 

RobinMc

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I get what the Bible says about the MOB and the number 666, but I couldn't make myself accept that number or be chipped. Our local grocery had a program where you could connect you debit card to your thumb print and pay with it. It kinda gave me a chill. I asked the cashier were many people doing it and she said no. Shortly after, it was removed from the store. I guess they don't call us the 'bible belt' for nothing. :)
 

Andy C

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I get what the Bible says about the MOB and the number 666, but I couldn't make myself accept that number or be chipped. Our local grocery had a program where you could connect you debit card to your thumb print and pay with it. It kinda gave me a chill. I asked the cashier were many people doing it and she said no. Shortly after, it was removed from the store. I guess they don't call us the 'bible belt' for nothing. :)
It took me several years to finally use a debit card. I dont like change. I actually still carry cash unlike most folks I know.
 

RobinMc

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It took me several years to finally use a debit card. I dont like change. I actually still carry cash unlike most folks I know.
It's a process. First you use the checking account instead of cash, then the debit card (same with me, I was slow to get on board), then the thumbprint, then the smartphone, then the implanted chip, then the mark. I'm sure they will make it sound like it's the best, safest thing ever.
 
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