Asbury "Revival"

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ItIsFinished!

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I'm not sure about that statement. Which is more likely to deceive people open satanism or counterfeit Christianity? We are warned again and again in the NT about false teaching, grievous wolves, and deceivers within the church. The state of much of professing Christianity today is apostasy (or at least heading in that direction).

An outward emotional movement is not what is needed today, what we need is a return to serious Bible study and proper exposition of the Scriptures in order to rightly divide the Word and allow the Spirit to correct and guide each of us from the inside out. Believers led in such a way will have much more of an impact on the world than what has passed for "revivals" the past few decades (such as Charismania, the Laughing Revival, Prosperity Gospel, Promisekeepers, Best Life Now, etc).
Excellent point . I thought the same thing.
 

soundingthealarm

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Praying and "taking heed" ...I remember the "Toronto Blessing Revival" that spread to become the "Brownsville/Pensacola" Revival and touched many many lives "in Jesus Name" but DECEPTIVELY SO and shipwrecked so many people's walks with God because when the goose bumps left and the manifestations and experiences didn't bring real life impacting change, they thought God had left them too!

But I sure wouldn't mind if Our Father was stirring a great awakening to the lateness of the hour and a holy urgency spread to the news of Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
 

Amethyst

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Praying and "taking heed" ...I remember the "Toronto Blessing Revival" that spread to become the "Brownsville/Pensacola" Revival and touched many many lives "in Jesus Name" but DECEPTIVELY SO and shipwrecked so many people's walks with God because when the goose bumps left and the manifestations and experiences didn't bring real life impacting change, they thought God had left them too!

But I sure wouldn't mind if Our Father was stirring a great awakening to the lateness of the hour and a holy urgency spread to the news of Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
My thoughts exactly
 

Amethyst

Angie ... †
I saw this on the Fox News website this morning. Regardless, it's wonderful young people are interested in hearing the Word after so many are being targeted by the leftists and their wicked agenda.
Hopefully that is what they’re showing interest in and not just a popular emotional experience :amen
Hopefully scripture is spoken there that is actually leading to salvation. :nod
 

Wally

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Meanwhile back at work the radio plays on: "O my lord, my sweet lord......"

The Beatles will all one day be dead and if not finding Jesus The Living Christ, as Lord, that death will be an eternal existence separate from THE LORD of LORDS.

How much have we sung such songs of emptiness. How long have we embraced a god of nothing.

NOW is the time. Seek Jesus while He is easily found. Understand the Truth. You, me, all of us are sinners.
We have offended, despised, mocked, insulted the Creator of All.

But He offers us Mercy, Grace, Adoption, He wants us to fellowship with Him and receive His salvation through His Son

Who submitted to man's evil that He would purchase us from the bonds of sin and death.

He demonstrated His ability to do so by rising from the dead and releasing the Spirit to dwell in us and help us.

Today is the day, for tomorrow in this world is never promised.
Repent. Believe.

And receive the promises that really mean something. Life! Joy! Peace!

If you know Christ, continue to work out your sanctification. Its the wonderous work God gave us.
Even when it seems its not producing remember that is not your work. God brings the fruit.
We are to persevere.
 
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I'm not sure about that statement. Which is more likely to deceive people open satanism or counterfeit Christianity? We are warned again and again in the NT about false teaching, grievous wolves, and deceivers within the church. The state of much of professing Christianity today is apostasy (or at least heading in that direction).

An outward emotional movement is not what is needed today, what we need is a return to serious Bible study and proper exposition of the Scriptures in order to rightly divide the Word and allow the Spirit to correct and guide each of us from the inside out. Believers led in such a way will have much more of an impact on the world than what has passed for "revivals" the past few decades (such as Charismania, the Laughing Revival, Prosperity Gospel, Promisekeepers, Best Life Now, etc).

100%.

The fact that people have a harder time discerning it makes it I think more deadly than previous easily discernible "revivals".

A true revival always breaks out of the preaching of God's Holy Word, which leads people to repent and exalt the Lord Jesus Christ above all. That was the case during the Pentecost, at Ephesus, and the First Great Awakening. It's not continuous, repetitive singing of hypnotic almost New-Agey music.

I saw a "testimony" of someone in Asbury almost screaming how this "experience" is so awesome and good and the real deal. He went on and on about the experience without even mentioning the Lord Jesus Christ. I'm not really one of those hyper-discernment, judgey individuals that are skeptical at everything, but I'd be wary of this "revival" that seem to have heavy Laodicean spirit.
 

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100%.

The fact that people have a harder time discerning it makes it I think more deadly than previous easily discernible "revivals".

A true revival always breaks out of the preaching of God's Holy Word, which leads people to repent and exalt the Lord Jesus Christ above all. That was the case during the Pentecost, at Ephesus, and the First Great Awakening. It's not continuous, repetitive singing of hypnotic almost New-Agey music.

I saw a "testimony" of someone in Asbury almost screaming how this "experience" is so awesome and good and the real deal. He went on and on about the experience without even mentioning the Lord Jesus Christ. I'm not really one of those hyper-discernment, judgey individuals that are skeptical at everything, but I'd be wary of this "revival" that seem to have heavy Laodicean spirit.
I agree. A few years back I knew some folks that attended the Urbana missions conference. They came back all pumped up about the great experience they had. When I asked them about what had been taught at the conference (i.e. what was the substance and basis or their "revival") I was told that all of the sessions centered around Social Justice. In other words, Marxism with a "Christian" veneer to go out and remake the world into a Communist paradise.

That is a far cry from the missionary message we read about in the NT. Our message is the Gospel, not the false hope of creating a man-made paradise through socialism.
 

alisani

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Hopefully that is what they’re showing interest in and not just a popular emotional experience :amen
Hopefully scripture is spoken there that is actually leading to salvation. :nod
That's my concern. That they are chasing an emotional high. Studies have shown that even misplaced religious zeal can trigger the same parts of the brain that are activated by drugs and gambling. I mean no offense to the younger folks, but most of these gen Z kids lack critical thinking and emotional resilience. They are often chasing a feel good message.
 

SarahRose

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Dr. Andy Woods talks about this in the most recent PPOV.

I like what he said. Paraphrasing here but he said there are two extremes that should be avoided when trying to analyze something like this, this early on. One extreme is immediately condemning it (calling it satanic, not of God, etc.). The other extreme is people "rushing to the coronation" and immediately endorsing it without knowing what exactly is going on.

He gave some examples of real revivals and false ones that have happened in his lifetime, and gave a good reminder that any actual revival happens only because the Holy Spirit makes it happen.

He also brought up four biblical revivals and gave a good reminder that in each of these, the word of God is delivered, and then the revival happens.

So basically, we'll know whether or not it's an actual revival based on how scripture is being delivered. Is the Gospel actually being shared? Are conversions happening because of that? Or is it just a man-made, emotionally-driven event?

I personally don't know. But I haven't seen a video or anything of the Gospel actually being shared there yet. Then again I haven't been tracking it closely.

We'll see!
 

soundingthealarm

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Dr. Andy Woods talks about this in the most recent PPOV.

I like what he said. Paraphrasing here but he said there are two extremes that should be avoided when trying to analyze something like this, this early on. One extreme is immediately condemning it (calling it satanic, not of God, etc.). The other extreme is people "rushing to the coronation" and immediately endorsing it without knowing what exactly is going on.

He gave some examples of real revivals and false ones that have happened in his lifetime, and gave a good reminder that any actual revival happens only because the Holy Spirit makes it happen.

He also brought up four biblical revivals and gave a good reminder that in each of these, the word of God is delivered, and then the revival happens.

So basically, we'll know whether or not it's an actual revival based on how scripture is being delivered. Is the Gospel actually being shared? Are conversions happening because of that? Or is it just a man-made, emotionally-driven event?

I personally don't know. But I haven't seen a video or anything of the Gospel actually being shared there yet. Then again I haven't been tracking it closely.

We'll see!
I just listened to Nathan Jones and Tim Moore discuss it as well and are cautiously optimistic that as of now it seems to be based on sound scripture being shared and many coming to repentance. (Tim Moore's daughters have attended the university and the actual services) but he wasn't ready to pronounce it a real revival but rather to prayerfully observe how it proceeds.
 

Amethyst

Angie ... †
I just listened to Nathan Jones and Tim Moore discuss it as well and are cautiously optimistic that as of now it seems to be based on sound scripture being shared and many coming to repentance. (
well that’s good to hear
Stephen spencer went there and was reporting they weren’t sharing the gospel or scripture of repentence
Maybe that has changed :) :)
 

Dave_97

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This is my personal assessment. Although I can’t say this is a revival or not, as Christians we just have to be careful to not conclude anything as of yet.

I do believe Gods word has to be spoken to some degree for any repentance to happen.

I’ve also noticed some of us (not just in this thread) are very skeptical of anything that has to do with emotion. If people get emotional, it doesn’t necessarily mean the whole thing is a sham. Yes there has been many ministries that are all emotions and no Gods word and I would not follow those too. Emotions can be deceiving cause we are fallen human beings, and this why we rely on Gods word first.

But if Gods word is being spoken, and people are responding in repentance, but are also very emotional because they realize what the Lord has done for them it’s not a bad thing. I personally was very emotional in the very early weeks to months after I met Jesus, literally parts of my Bible (the gospel sections) were soaked with dried tears cause I just couldn’t comprehend what the Lord had done in my life. However, eventually as you continue to grow in your faith your no longer a “baby Christian” and you might not longer be as emotional.
 

TimeWarpWife

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Meanwhile back at work the radio plays on: "O my lord, my sweet lord......"

The Beatles will all one day be dead and if not finding Jesus The Living Christ, as Lord, that death will be an eternal existence separate from THE LORD of LORDS.

How much have we sung such songs of emptiness. How long have we embraced a god of nothing.

NOW is the time. Seek Jesus while He is easily found. Understand the Truth. You, me, all of us are sinners.
We have offended, despised, mocked, insulted the Creator of All.

But He offers us Mercy, Grace, Adoption, He wants us to fellowship with Him and receive His salvation through His Son

Who submitted to man's evil that He would purchase us from the bonds of sin and death.

He demonstrated His ability to do so by rising from the dead and releasing the Spirit to dwell in us and help us.

Today is the day, for tomorrow in this world is never promised.
Repent. Believe.

And receive the promises that really mean something. Life! Joy! Peace!

If you know Christ, continue to work out your sanctification. Its the wonderous work God gave us.
Even when it seems its not producing remember that is not your work. God brings the fruit.
We are to persevere.
According to some articles I read, McCartney stated that none of the four Beatles believed in God, later claiming they were all agnostics. Then in another article it stated that when Harrison died in 2001, there were images of Hindu gods Rama and Krishna on his nightstand and he died amongst Hindu chants and prayers. He also supposedly left 20 million British pounds to the International Society for Krishna Consciousness. At this point, I'm thinking there isn't going to be any kind of Beatles' reunion in heaven. Personally, I never cared for their music as a band or individually. And I despise Lennon's song Imagine. :puke

I did hear something about this so-called revival, but I haven't really looked into it. Because many of the "revivals" in the 90s and 2000s turned out to be false, I'm waiting to see if this one is real or not - or should I say inspired by God or the devil.
 
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Psalm37v4

Hated and laughed at by the world but loved by God
Who is Todd Bentley ?
Oh, you don’t want to know, but since you asked… He’s a false teacher.
A quote from the article in Christiannews.net:
“Todd Bentley, who once claimed to activate the power of God by kicking a woman in the face with his biker boot, has announced that he is “booked to spend several days” in what is being called a “revival” at Asbury.”
 
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