Ezekiel 38:1-6 Follow-up to Other Thread

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
I had to use Tor to get to it because censorship is alive and well on the ISP here (sometimes I have to use Tor to get on some Christian and Jewish sites :mad

Don't remember the exact search words. money from Israel deposited in svb or similar will probably get you to one or more sources.
 

athenasius

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I found the source you quoted on Telegram and I've been looking everywhere to find news that says what the protestors/leftists were up to. I'd love to show this to some friends and fam since it is the God of Israel in action!!

But not even the "staple" pastors many of us listen to are mentioning this element of tech companies pulling out from Israeli investments and putting it in SVB. I may not be using the right key words to search for it though :| ... so has anyone else seen any news links about this that can be shared on here?
I'm so sorry I wasn't online till now. I saw on the other thread you found some sources, if you can post, do because I didn't have time to track it down when I posted that quote from Telegram but I trust that source, he's accurate. If any of them can be posted here, that would be wonderful and thank you @Ghoti Ichthus for the tip about TOR.
 

Kenny64

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It will in the tribulation.
https://www.raptureready.com/2020/11/08/possibilities-the-ezekiel-38-invasion-by-mark-a-becker/

Timing of The Invasion

I’m in the camp that believes this end-time war will happen after the rapture of the church. To be more specific,
I suggest it will happen immediately after the rapture.


The United States, Israel’s closest ally in the world, will be greatly impacted by the body of Christ being taken from the earth. More than that, it is because of these believers in Jesus Christ that keeps the United States the best friend of Israel. Once these lovers of Israel and the Israeli people have gone, who is left to protect Israel from her enemies? The answer is, obviously, nobody. Nobody, that is, but God!
 

daygo

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https://www.raptureready.com/2020/11/08/possibilities-the-ezekiel-38-invasion-by-mark-a-becker/

Timing of The Invasion

I’m in the camp that believes this end-time war will happen after the rapture of the church. To be more specific,
I suggest it will happen immediately after the rapture.


The United States, Israel’s closest ally in the world, will be greatly impacted by the body of Christ being taken from the earth. More than that, it is because of these believers in Jesus Christ that keeps the United States the best friend of Israel. Once these lovers of Israel and the Israeli people have gone, who is left to protect Israel from her enemies? The answer is, obviously, nobody. Nobody, that is, but God!
Will not actually be a war more like Gods showpiece.
 

Kenny64

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Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins in their best-selling novel Left Behind,[12] place this invasion of Israel right before the rapture of the church. The strength of this position is that it accounts for the burning of the weapons of war for seven years as mentioned in Ezekiel 39:9. However, Tim LaHaye has told me personally that even though they represented a pre-rapture position on Ezekiel 38 and 39 in their novel, he tends to place it after the rapture but before the tribulation.
 
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Anastacia

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*IF* there is a gap [of days, weeks, months, even years] between the rapture and the Tribulation, perhaps Ez 38 happens after the rapture, but before the Trib. There does seem to be many things that could happen more easily when Christians aren't in the way.

The last couple of years, I'm leaning toward the concept of a gap. And if Ez 38 happened after the rapture but before the AC is officially on the scene, it'd be another reason why Seal 2/Red Horse does not include the GM war.

The buildup of US troops in Europe is concerning though. I hope and pray there is not a draft!! Maybe lots of troops will already be at there for when Gog is turned around by the hook in his jaw.

As mentioned in posts above, it's a very interesting possibility that the Russia-Ukraine conflict could be the beginnings of the movement that could turn Gog to keep moving south toward Israel.
 

Kenny64

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"It will in the tribulation."
Are You really that sure?
Tim LaHaye has told me personally that even though they represented a pre-rapture position on Ezekiel 38 and 39 in their novel, he tends to place it after the rapture but before the tribulation.

Possibilities: The Ezekiel 38 Invasion :: By Mark A. Becker​

Published on: November 8, 2020 by RR7 Category:General Articles

I do understand their also a couple different views.
 

Spartan Sprinter 1

Formerly known as Shaun
Are You really that sure?
Tim LaHaye has told me personally that even though they represented a pre-rapture position on Ezekiel 38 and 39 in their novel, he tends to place it after the rapture but before the tribulation.

Possibilities: The Ezekiel 38 Invasion :: By Mark A. Becker​

Published on: November 8, 2020 by RR7 Category:General Articles

I do understand their also a couple different views.
Did you know Tim personally or was it at one of his conferences that you asked him about that ?
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
I wonder how the recent mass terror attack against Israel fits in . . .

7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
Ezekiel 38:7-9, KJV

7 “Be ready and keep ready, you and all your hosts that are assembled about you, and be a guard for them.
8 After many days you will be mustered. In the latter years you will go against the land that is restored from war, the land whose people were gathered from many peoples upon the mountains of Israel, which had been a continual waste. Its people were brought out from the peoples and now dwell securely, all of them.
9 You will advance, coming on like a storm. You will be like a cloud covering the land, you and all your hordes, and many peoples with you.
Ezekiel 38:7-9, ESV


And how it fits in that the Jewish people are being "encouraged" or outright forced to leave the various countries and go to Israel. Even from the U.S. Anti-Semitism and outright hard persecution of Jewish people on the rise all over the world. Wonder when God will resurrect the whole House of Israel. Rapture can't be too far away . . .

1 The hand of the Lord was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the Lord, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,
2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord God, thou knowest.
4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the Lord.
5 Thus saith the Lord God unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
15 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,
16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.
Ezekiel 37, KJV

1 The hand of the Lord was upon me, and he brought me out in the Spirit of the Lord and set me down in the middle of the valley;[a] it was full of bones. 2 And he led me around among them, and behold, there were very many on the surface of the valley, and behold, they were very dry.
3 And he said to me, “Son of man, can these bones live?” And I answered, “O Lord God, you know.”
4 Then he said to me, “Prophesy over these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the Lord.
5 Thus says the Lord God to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath[b] to enter you, and you shall live.
6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live, and you shall know that I am the Lord.”
7 So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I prophesied, there was a sound, and behold, a rattling,[c] and the bones came together, bone to its bone. 8 And I looked, and behold, there were sinews on them, and flesh had come upon them, and skin had covered them. But there was no breath in them.
9 Then he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, Thus says the Lord God: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they may live.”
10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived and stood on their feet, an exceedingly great army.
11 Then he said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, ‘Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are indeed cut off.’
12 Therefore prophesy, and say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will open your graves and raise you from your graves, O my people. And I will bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And you shall know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people.
14 And I will put my Spirit within you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land. Then you shall know that I am the Lord; I have spoken, and I will do it, declares the Lord.”
15 The word of the Lord came to me:
16 “Son of man, take a stick[d] and write on it, ‘For Judah, and the people of Israel associated with him’; then take another stick and write on it, ‘For Joseph (the stick of Ephraim) and all the house of Israel associated with him.’
17 And join them one to another into one stick, that they may become one in your hand.
18 And when your people say to you, ‘Will you not tell us what you mean by these?’
19 say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am about to take the stick of Joseph (that is in the hand of Ephraim) and the tribes of Israel associated with him. And I will join with it the stick of Judah,[e] and make them one stick, that they may be one in my hand.
20 When the sticks on which you write are in your hand before their eyes,
21 then say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will take the people of Israel from the nations among which they have gone, and will gather them from all around, and bring them to their own land. 22 And I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. And one king shall be king over them all, and they shall be no longer two nations, and no longer divided into two kingdoms.
23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols and their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions. But I will save them from all the backslidings[f] in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
24 “My servant David shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall walk in my rules and be careful to obey my statutes.
25 They shall dwell in the land that I gave to my servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They and their children and their children's children shall dwell there forever, and David my servant shall be their prince forever.
26 I will make a covenant of peace with them. It shall be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will set them in their land[g] and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in their midst forevermore.
27 My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
28 Then the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when my sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.”
Ezekiel 37, ESV
 
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