Latin America’s Left Is Tearing Itself Apart – Just in Time for Lula to Take Over Brazil

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
The election of convicted felon Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva to the presidency of Brazil in October – a hardline socialist who had, in his previous presidencies, been seen as the leader of the international left – prompted a wave of celebrations among the world’s Marxists that Latin America had finally fallen into near-complete leftist rule.

With nearly every major country in the region under a leftist government, corporate media outlets were quick to announce that a new “pink tide” had surged in Latin America following the fall of several leftist regimes in the aftermath of the collapse of the Venezuelan economy. The leaders could now work together on “regional integration” – localized globalism in which countries cooperate to impose policies in lockdown. Lula himself revived the socialist plan of creating a unified Latin American currency, a “euro” for South America that he has provisionally dubbed the “sur.”

https://www.breitbart.com/latin-ame...rt-just-in-time-for-lula-to-take-over-brazil/

It would be interesting if South America became the 2nd future kingdom to develop prior to Tribulation. North America has been hard at work to become number 2 after Europe for quite some time.
 

cheeky200386

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The election of convicted felon Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva to the presidency of Brazil in October – a hardline socialist who had, in his previous presidencies, been seen as the leader of the international left – prompted a wave of celebrations among the world’s Marxists that Latin America had finally fallen into near-complete leftist rule.

With nearly every major country in the region under a leftist government, corporate media outlets were quick to announce that a new “pink tide” had surged in Latin America following the fall of several leftist regimes in the aftermath of the collapse of the Venezuelan economy. The leaders could now work together on “regional integration” – localized globalism in which countries cooperate to impose policies in lockdown. Lula himself revived the socialist plan of creating a unified Latin American currency, a “euro” for South America that he has provisionally dubbed the “sur.”

https://www.breitbart.com/latin-ame...rt-just-in-time-for-lula-to-take-over-brazil/

It would be interesting if South America became the 2nd future kingdom to develop prior to Tribulation. North America has been hard at work to become number 2 after Europe for quite some time.
My dad and step mom are already preparing to no longer visit Colombia because of the new socialist President. They want to sell their house there while they still can.
 

Tall Timbers

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My dad and step mom are already preparing to no longer visit Colombia because of the new socialist President. They want to sell their house there while they still can.

I have a lot of friends in Colombia. I'll be sad to see it become like Venezuela. My older brother is buried there near Barbosa in Santander del Sur and I would like very much to be able to visit there without concern for my safety... though Colombia isn't known for its safety.
 

cheeky200386

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I have a lot of friends in Colombia. I'll be sad to see it become like Venezuela. My older brother is buried there near Barbosa in Santander del Sur and I would like very much to be able to visit there without concern for my safety... though Colombia isn't known for its safety.
Oh wow, I can't believe your brother is buried there. I'm sad to hear you may not be able to return safely. I'm also sorry to hear about your friends there. :( I'm glad I visited it when I did and that my husband got to visit with me. My family/dad is from Cali. Driving through the Andes Mountains down from Bogota was breathtaking.

It truly is such a shame but just another reminder this World is not our home. That brings me joy and sadness all at the same time.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
Oh wow, I can't believe your brother is buried there. I'm sad to hear you may not be able to return safely. I'm also sorry to hear about your friends there. :( I'm glad I visited it when I did and that my husband got to visit with me. My family/dad is from Cali. Driving through the Andes Mountains down from Bogota was breathtaking.

It truly is such a shame but just another reminder this World is not our home. That brings me joy and sadness all at the same time.

My ride was usually on a bus. It cost about 100 pesos back then to travel from Barbosa to Bogota and the same to return. The drive took us through Tunja, Boyoca. 100 pesos was a little bit less than $3 US back then. There's a large memorial to my brother where he's buried on a farm that used to be known as La Comunidad de El Camino. Padre Jaime was quite famous in Colombia. That's where I lived most of the time I was there. I was foreman for the construction of most of the buildings there. The country is beautiful, the culture... I miss. If there was rule of law I'd love to live there again, out in the country.
 

cheeky200386

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My ride was usually on a bus. It cost about 100 pesos back then to travel from Barbosa to Bogota and the same to return. The drive took us through Tunja, Boyoca. 100 pesos was a little bit less than $3 US back then. There's a large memorial to my brother where he's buried on a farm that used to be known as La Comunidad de El Camino. Padre Jaime was quite famous in Colombia. That's where I lived most of the time I was there. I was foreman for the construction of most of the buildings there. The country is beautiful, the culture... I miss. If there was rule of law I'd love to live there again, out in the country.
Same! I was wanting to buy a place to live there cheaply but the level of corruption was too much for Mike and I to even consider. I just loved the food, the variety of climates, and the affordable life. Mike was like "definitely not" lol. Even my dad would think I was crazy.

My dad is happy here and missed the seasons when he was waiting for his son, my half brother to get his visa. Long story but he got a woman pregnant down there and ended up staying in Colombia for 10 years. He told me he desperately missed the USA and the 4 seasons. He came here when he was 16 years old, so he didn't fit in while in Colombia anymore.

I'll have to ask my dad about Padre Jaime. How did you and your brother end up in Colombia? How long were you both there?
 

Tall Timbers

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Same! I was wanting to buy a place to live there cheaply but the level of corruption was too much for Mike and I to even consider. I just loved the food, the variety of climates, and the affordable life. Mike was like "definitely not" lol. Even my dad would think I was crazy.

My dad is happy here and missed the seasons when he was waiting for his son, my half brother to get his visa. Long story but he got a woman pregnant down there and ended up staying in Colombia for 10 years. He told me he desperately missed the USA and the 4 seasons. He came here when he was 16 years old, so he didn't fit in while in Colombia anymore.

I'll have to ask my dad about Padre Jaime. How did you and your brother end up in Colombia? How long were you both there?

I was there for only two years. My brother went down sometime in the 60s as a peace corp volunteer to avoid the Vietnam draft and ended up staying there his whole life. He worked with Padre Garcia-Herreros and Padre Jaramillo... all somewhat evangelical in their beliefs. Back then you had the old school catholic church and you had liberal minded evangelical priests who actually spread the gospel. In my brother's case, most of the time he was down there he had a price on his head but the govmint didn't want to take him out directly, apparently, and nobody ever wanted to collect the money, though I believe there were a few attempts on his life, one while I was living there. My brothers area of influence was mostly Santander del Sur while the other two were based out of Bogota. My brother took in children of poor campesino families and he enabled them to get a full high school education while working the farm and participating in the community activties. Normally a boy wouldn't go past the 2nd grade if they managed that because as soon as they could do anything productive they were put to work in the fields. Girls typically went a little further in school and had an easier life doing household chores. For that reason, the women tended to grow a little more than the boys out there in the boonies. My brother was probably the only "gringo" priest in Colombia and was simply known as Padre Jaime. In news broadcasts and periodicals his last name was rarely used. One summer sometime in the mid-70s my brother visited his family in the USA. He asked if I'd like to go to Colombia. He was thinking a short visit. I said no. Later on I got marching orders from God and told my brother I was coming. I think I neglected to tell him I was coming to stay indefinitely until I was called home. It took a long time for me to get permission to enter the country. Colombia was not allowing foreign missionaries to enter the country at the time so Father Garcia-Herreros used his sway to get me in on a 6 month student visa which was later changed to missionary after I'd already been there. While I waited I received some useful training from a dentist, and eye doctor, and a construction guy. I ultimately went down with a lot of potentially useful talents. When I was first told to go my response was "what on earth can I do down there?" I was barely 19 and not good for much when I got the calling.
 

cheeky200386

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I was there for only two years. My brother went down sometime in the 60s as a peace corp volunteer to avoid the Vietnam draft and ended up staying there his whole life. He worked with Padre Garcia-Herreros and Padre Jaramillo... all somewhat evangelical in their beliefs. Back then you had the old school catholic church and you had liberal minded evangelical priests who actually spread the gospel. In my brother's case, most of the time he was down there he had a price on his head but the govmint didn't want to take him out directly, apparently, and nobody ever wanted to collect the money, though I believe there were a few attempts on his life, one while I was living there. My brothers area of influence was mostly Santander del Sur while the other two were based out of Bogota. My brother took in children of poor campesino families and he enabled them to get a full high school education while working the farm and participating in the community activties. Normally a boy wouldn't go past the 2nd grade if they managed that because as soon as they could do anything productive they were put to work in the fields. Girls typically went a little further in school and had an easier life doing household chores. For that reason, the women tended to grow a little more than the boys out there in the boonies. My brother was probably the only "gringo" priest in Colombia and was simply known as Padre Jaime. In news broadcasts and periodicals his last name was rarely used. One summer sometime in the mid-70s my brother visited his family in the USA. He asked if I'd like to go to Colombia. He was thinking a short visit. I said no. Later on I got marching orders from God and told my brother I was coming. I think I neglected to tell him I was coming to stay indefinitely until I was called home. It took a long time for me to get permission to enter the country. Colombia was not allowing foreign missionaries to enter the country at the time so Father Garcia-Herreros used his sway to get me in on a 6 month student visa which was later changed to missionary after I'd already been there. While I waited I received some useful training from a dentist, and eye doctor, and a construction guy. I ultimately went down with a lot of potentially useful talents. When I was first told to go my response was "what on earth can I do down there?" I was barely 19 and not good for much when I got the calling.
Wow that is amazing. I had no idea they were barring missionaries at one point. That's crazy, especially since I always picture Latin American countries to be very religious. That's crazy about your brother too. It's amazing how he was able to stay permanently and help so many.

I wish you wrote a book about your adventures. It's extremely interesting. I can't imagine how different Colombia was at that time with the Guerilla too.

My grandma and great aunt had to flee there village in the 50's or 60's, I believe, because the Guerilla were coming through pillaging and raping the women. They settled in Cali and then had my dad. Sadly, my grandfather was an alcoholic and they separated when my dad was only 3 years old. They grew up in the really poor area and had lots of family staying in a small shack.

My dad took me when I visited and it still looked like a poor delapitated neighborhood. It was interesting that we didn't have to worry about the Guerilla in the cities. They were relegated to the jungles at that time in 2011.
 

cheeky200386

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Interestingly at the time, Venezuela was one of the most stable countries in South America. I had an escape plan should anything crazy happen, to try and make it to an address in Caracas where I'd be given aid.
Now that you're back in the states, do you think of an escape plan should things get really sour here?

The ultimate one is the rapture but I do wonder about options should heavy persecution come to Christians here, which I can see happening within the next decade.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
I wish you wrote a book about your adventures. It's extremely interesting. I can't imagine how different Colombia was at that time with the Guerilla too.

Yep, lot's of guerrillas. Fortunately they were mostly at an "immature" stage of evilness in the Department of Santander. I did have to do some rerouting, hiding, and running. The Lord seemed to provide intelligence of danger when it was needed. I faced a lot of hatred towards America and Americans. It was the Guerilla, Guerilla wannabes, and interestingly, many of the educated. The average campesino was very welcoming.
 
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Tall Timbers

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Now that you're back in the states, do you think of an escape plan should things get really sour here?

I've made sure that my wife and I and all the kids always had a current passport. I don't have an escape plan but I look back at WWII. Some people that had travel documents were able to escape... those who didn't but wanted to flee were less fortunate. So I've remembered that and have the necessary documents for departing the country. Doubt I'll ever be fleeing, especially now that I'm old and needy, but I've never regretted being prepared. If the USA gets bad enough to flee, there probably won't be anywhere to flee to.
 

ItIsFinished!

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I was there for only two years. My brother went down sometime in the 60s as a peace corp volunteer to avoid the Vietnam draft and ended up staying there his whole life. He worked with Padre Garcia-Herreros and Padre Jaramillo... all somewhat evangelical in their beliefs. Back then you had the old school catholic church and you had liberal minded evangelical priests who actually spread the gospel. In my brother's case, most of the time he was down there he had a price on his head but the govmint didn't want to take him out directly, apparently, and nobody ever wanted to collect the money, though I believe there were a few attempts on his life, one while I was living there. My brothers area of influence was mostly Santander del Sur while the other two were based out of Bogota. My brother took in children of poor campesino families and he enabled them to get a full high school education while working the farm and participating in the community activties. Normally a boy wouldn't go past the 2nd grade if they managed that because as soon as they could do anything productive they were put to work in the fields. Girls typically went a little further in school and had an easier life doing household chores. For that reason, the women tended to grow a little more than the boys out there in the boonies. My brother was probably the only "gringo" priest in Colombia and was simply known as Padre Jaime. In news broadcasts and periodicals his last name was rarely used. One summer sometime in the mid-70s my brother visited his family in the USA. He asked if I'd like to go to Colombia. He was thinking a short visit. I said no. Later on I got marching orders from God and told my brother I was coming. I think I neglected to tell him I was coming to stay indefinitely until I was called home. It took a long time for me to get permission to enter the country. Colombia was not allowing foreign missionaries to enter the country at the time so Father Garcia-Herreros used his sway to get me in on a 6 month student visa which was later changed to missionary after I'd already been there. While I waited I received some useful training from a dentist, and eye doctor, and a construction guy. I ultimately went down with a lot of potentially useful talents. When I was first told to go my response was "what on earth can I do down there?" I was barely 19 and not good for much when I got the calling.
Good evening, when did your brother become a priest?
How many languages do you speak?
 

Jaybird

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I've made sure that my wife and I and all the kids always had a current passport. I don't have an escape plan but I look back at WWII. Some people that had travel documents were able to escape... those who didn't but wanted to flee were less fortunate. So I've remembered that and have the necessary documents for departing the country. Doubt I'll ever be fleeing, especially now that I'm old and needy, but I've never regretted being prepared. If the USA gets bad enough to flee, there probably won't be anywhere to flee to.
I had the idea for an escape plan as well. My wife is German and still holds a German passport, but then I finally realized why would I want to move there? Would it really be any better? I worked for a German company and my colleagues paid 50% of their income in taxes to the national government. I will take my chances here. We will be raptured before it gets really bad anyway.
 

cheeky200386

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I had the idea for an escape plan as well. My wife is German and still holds a German passport, but then I finally realized why would I want to move there? Would it really be any better? I worked for a German company and my colleagues paid 50% of their income in taxes to the national government. I will take my chances here. We will be raptured before it gets really bad anyway.
I'm worried for American Christians who may not be prepared to face serious persecution as the rest of the World does. A lot can still happen before the rapture.
 

cheeky200386

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If/when the time comes, the Holy Spirit will give us everything we need. Ideally, we just need to stay close to our Savior with prayer and spending time in His Word.
I believe that but then I hear stories from Persecuted Christians who had nervous breakdowns during extreme torture. I remember our flesh is weak. I do believe even then, we can still hold on to our Faith, only with the help of the Holy Spirit, even if we are falling apart physically and mentally.
 
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