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    Default Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    A study of more than a century of global seismic records has prompted some scientists to say that major earthquakes have tended to occur in clusters. Others disagree.


    By Charles Q. Choi, OurAmazingPlanet Contributor / April 20, 2011

    A number of devastating quakes have struck across the globe in recent years — from Japan to Chile to Haiti — sparking fears that our planet is due to experience even more catastrophic temblors in the near future.

    Some say we are; others disagree.

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    Megaquake clusters

    One pair of researchers found clusters of what they called "megaquakes," earthquakes of magnitude 9.0 or greater.

    One cluster involved three such quakes between 1952 and 1964, including the magnitude 9.5 Chile quake of 1960, the largest earthquake ever recorded on Earth. Another, larger, cluster of magnitude 8.6 and higher temblors happened between 1950 to 1965, said Charles Bufe and David Perkins, seismologists with the U.S. Geological Survey in Golden, Colo. They speculate that the magnitude 8.4 Peru quake in 2001 could mark the beginning of a new global sequence of major quakes that we are currently experiencing.

    "This isn't doomsday — I don't think large earthquakes will occur over a long period of time — but we're saying there seems to be a cluster right now with a higher than normal probability for large quakes," Bufe told OurAmazingPlanet. "I don't know how long this cluster might last — if we don't get another large earthquake in maybe the next 10 or 12 years, I would say we're probably out of the cluster."

    Bufe suggested that by sending seismic waves traveling around and around the planet's surface, very large earthquakes might weaken fault zones that are already very close to failure. "I think there's a more than 50 percent chance we'll see another magnitude 9 quake sometime in the next decade or so," he said.

    Just chance?

    On the other hand, this apparent recent spike in large quakes could just reflect random fluctuations in global patterns of seismic activity. A statistical study from U.S. Geological Survey researcher Andrew Michael at Menlo Park, Calif., suggests this seeming cluster pattern disappeared once local aftershocks of the large earthquakes are taken into account.

    "The most important lesson is that random doesn't mean uniformly distributed in time — instead, random processes create apparent clustering and it is important to carefully consider whether apparent clusters, or times of less activity, go beyond what is expected from a simple random process," Michael told OurAmazingPlanet. "So far, my results show that the apparent clustering is consistent with a random process."

    If the apparent clustering of these quakes is a matter of chance, then seismologists can't say whether or not another huge temblor is likely to erupt anytime soon.

    "The recent spate of great earthquakes can be explained as a random fluctuation without predictive power for the future," Michael said. He added that global predictions of earthquakes and the damage they inflict should use the longest possible historical record for an area "rather than focusing on the recent past."

    Long-term record

    Seismologist Richard Aster at the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology and his colleagues looked at historical catalogs of earthquakes along with more recent findings to create a long-term record of the cumulative size of earthquakes around the world.

    They suggest there were relatively low rates of big earthquakes during the periods 1907 to 1950 and 1967 to 2004. However, they found the rate of large earthquakes increased substantially during the period 1950 to 1967 and appears to be on the rise again since 2004, since the devastating magnitude 9.1 to 9.3 earthquake that struck Indonesia and generated a massive tsunami late that year.

    Still, this finding "is not statistically differentiable from randomness," Aster told OurAmazingPlanet.

    Progress into understanding whether there are ages of major quakes or not may be slow "because we just don't get that many great earthquakes to produce a better sampling of this natural process," Aster said.

    "We only get a few magnitude 9-plus earthquakes per century, for example — fortunately for earthquake risks around the world, these events are rare," Aster said. "There are only 14 earthquakes in the past 111 years greater than magnitude 8.5."

    Michael agreed. "The main limitation is that we don't have enough data," he said. "We can't say that clustering doesn't exist. We can only say that the data doesn't let us reject the hypothesis that the data is random. If there was more data, then the results could change — but that will take decades to occur."

    The scientists detailed their findings on April 14 at the Seismological Society of America meeting in Memphis, Tenn.

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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    Consider the words of Omar M. Ahmad, founder of CAIR: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant." ... "The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America , and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."

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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    So some "experts" are just now waking up to an increase in quakes. Have they been living under a rock?
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    The news should read: Amoral countries swamped with disasters.

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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    SonSeeker said:
    So some "experts" are just now waking up to an increase in quakes. Have they been living under a rock?
    I hope you're not falling into the hysteria hype Bro! Earthquake frequency or magnitude has NO relevance for the Church. The notion comes from an erroneous belief the Church will be subject to the Tribulation. This notion corrupts solid doctrine and flies in the face of the basic understanding of why this forum exists. Matthew Ch 24 & 25 pertain to the Jewish race. Earthquakes are one of the component signs for those who will have to endure the Tribulation (Matt Ch 24:7).

    Birth pangs have nothing to do with the Church either.....She's a virgin!

    This is more akin to my understanding.........

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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    Some additional back-up....

    Earthquake Information for the 1990s
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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    Heavens no Bro, I guess I'm just a victim of "observer bias" as the article stated. And I know this has nothing to do with the church, we'll be long gone before the Rapture.

    Earthquakes are one of the component signs for those who will have to endure the Tribulation (Matt Ch 24:7).
    Absolutely true, but this doesn't mean there will no increase in any natural activity such as earthquakes, volcanoes, extreme flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis, etc. prior to the Rapture.

    Birth pangs have nothing to do with the Church either.....She's a virgin!
    All of these things are birth pangs which will be increasing as the Tribulation approaches, and all we know for sure is we will be Raptured prior to the antichrist being revealed. We have no idea how much of these birth pangs we will experience.

    I'm afraid the USGS report for 1990's is interesting, but not terribly relevant since it's 12 years old, and of course we know there has only been very minimal activity since 1999. Oh, by the way, Mt. Aetna just went off today.

    Hysteria? No, I find it exciting, but I certainly feel for those directly affected by those birth pangs, which could be any of us at any time.
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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    1999 seems like yesterday

    Earthquake Summary for 1999

    I can not believe there is no better data from USGS....no chance their budget has been slashed
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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    Significant Earthquakes of the World 2011

    Significant Earthquakes of the World 2010

    Sheesh.....they don't make it easy but the data is there
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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    Bro, I can not wrap my head around any any reference to "birth pangs" in the same sentence with the Church!

    Can a virgin be a little bit pregnant?
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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    Consider the words of Omar M. Ahmad, founder of CAIR: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant." ... "The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America , and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."

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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    Seriously, earthquakes are NOT increasing. Not even a little bit. The incidence and magnitude OVER TIME for all the records we have, even of quakes before scientific records have been kept, show neither increase nor decrease.

    HOWEVER, what is very significant prophetically is the REPORTING of earthquakes. 150 years ago, if there were a great quake in Alaska, no one would have heard of it and the only people who would have known were the Inuit indians living in the area. And unless trees or rocks fell on them or they fell victim to liquifaction - it would have just been so much shaking going on.

    The Word says "When you hear" ... and "Do not be alarmed.". The sense in Scriptures is NOT of an increase, but of something that is ongoing. Wars, pestilence, earthquakes in many places - all ongoing, all the beginning of sorrows. We have been in the beginning of sorrows since Christ died. The birth pangs started even then.

    Yes, the birth pangs ARE a sign for Israel, but a sign for the Church too, to know the season in which we live.

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    Thank you for this level headed article!

    I cringe when I see posts proclaiming that the sky is falling, and we need to abandon the cities (and the people we are supposed to evangelize) to go live in a cave and wait for the rapture. We are getting close, but there is no reason to panic. We need to keep doing what we should have been doing all along - spreading the Gospel. Wearing a claperboard sign in a city proclaiming "THE END IS NEAR" is not spreading "good news".

    Now, if one day millions of people suddenly disappear, and you don't find yourself getting the grand tour of Heaven, then by all means, panic. Then go figure out why you got left behind.

    After that, befriend an airline pilot who scores a job working for the Beast, marry his daughter, and start an underground Christian organization which distributes the truth, and trades in goods and services on the black market to circumvent the mark of the Beast. Also helps if you can find a computer genius working on the inside who has a mark of the beast but is also saved because he was held down and forced to take the mark against his will, a nerd who is good at forging IDs, a burned out building in Chicago, and a rabbi who is obsessed with swords, attempts to kill the Beast, becomes a believer and writes articles for your website.

    (If you are lost after that last paragraph, it is a reference to the Left Behind series of books)

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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    No aluminum foil hats, Dan?
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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

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    Bro, I can not wrap my head around any any reference to "birth pangs" in the same sentence with the Church!

    Can a virgin be a little bit pregnant?
    This fom Mikkita:
    Yes, the birth pangs ARE a sign for Israel, but a sign for the Church too, to know the season in which we live.
    That's all I'm trying to say, Bro!

    Can a virgin be a little bit pregnant?
    Sure, the Virgin Mary!!
    Ephesians 5:18 (New King James Version)

    18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit,


    I Come To The Garden Alone Hymn

    And He walks with me, and He talks with me,
    And He tells me I am His own;
    And the joy we share as we tarry there,
    None other has ever known.

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    Default Re: Are we entering an age of major earthquakes? Some say we are; others disagree.

    I haven't said, nor do I believe that the sky is falling or anything of that nature.

    Does it "seem" to me that the frequency and intensity of earthquakes is increasing? Yes, it does, but that is only my perception based on statistics supposedly quoted by Hal Lindsey and others. Also, it "seems" we are hearing more and more about them through the MSM. As the saying goes, "Figures don't lie, but liars figure"! This means that anything and everything stated by him is now suspect until examined through outside sources.

    In the meantime, I'll just ignore any reports about earthquakes increasing or decreasing,until I feel the earth shaking under my feet.
    Ephesians 5:18 (New King James Version)

    18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit,


    I Come To The Garden Alone Hymn

    And He walks with me, and He talks with me,
    And He tells me I am His own;
    And the joy we share as we tarry there,
    None other has ever known.

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