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    Israel signs in the heavens ?

    maybe some of you more advanced can answer this question. We know the Lord says in the last days that there will be signs in the heavens. I'm thinking most of it of course will occur during the tribulation but also before that time as well. I'm thinking that God, in his love might possibly create signs for the whole world to see in our closing hours. If so, i wonder what could we possibly expect? The thread below about the Moon is an example. I missed that, but for two nights while walking outside with the dog i looked up for a bit and just wondered will we literally see signs from our naked eye?

    I know we have to consider the Hubble telescope and what it has brought us. the photos are out of this world. But if one isn't really into Astronomy who don't have a telescope i guess much of what we see today can be signs in the heavens. I WONDER if that is what God was saying but again, we have seen some things with the naked eye i'm sure.

    i wonder if we will see a nationwide news story of a comet crashing to earth or a medeorite hitting the ocean? Just one of those causing parts of the ocean to lose marine life in perhaps a small area would certianly signal an alarm from Godly ministers and christians world wide. God's way of truly getting people to think, however I'm not advocating natural events as any sort of substitute for man's salvation. What i'm saying is it's the goodness of God that leadeth men unto repentance and He can choose any method he wants.

    Can someone say what they think has been a sign in the heaven's lately over the past 10 or so years? I used to subscribe to NASA's or NOAA's space newsletters that talks about what is happening in our galaxies but can't seem to find that page anymore. some stuff that was happening was being marveled by the experts as well.

    i just think we might see these things begin to happen that we've never seen before. I also believe that if God really wanted to get our attention, that north america's volcanoes might start coming to life cimentainiously. lol.. i'm thinking of getting myself a decent telescope this summer. might not get to use it as much living here in wa state. God bless

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    We will defiantly see things with the naked eye.

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    And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

    The sun and moon are to be used for signs. Here is a timeline of recent and future eclipses.

    http://i52.tinypic.com/2lvml2q.jpg

    This is the only link I have been able to find that shows the eclipses that does not have things not allowed in these forums. DO NOT TAKE AS FACT that the seven year trib starts on the date shown. It can be before or after this. No man knows the day or hour. As it says on photo, this is just a possibility.
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    In the link I provided the photo missed two important blood moons on June 15 2011 and July 27 2018.

    July 27 2018 is Sabbath of Consolation and Tu B'AV.
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    One "sign" that I would be interested to see would be a supernova. The brightest one, SN1006 obsserved in 1006AD, was the brightest object in the night sky, aside from the moon, and showed up as 2 1/2 to 3 times the size of Venus. It was about 1/4 as bright as the moon, and could even be seen in daylight hours!

    Another "sign" I think would be neat to see is a meteor impact on the moon. I recall watching a show a long time ago, and a monk recorded seeing what appeared to be a second moon rising from the moon. Certainly, if there was a large enough impact, and the sun was at the right angle, the resulting cloud would be visible, albeit for a short period if time probably.

    Oh, and in that linked graphic, it says "Sun and Moon not to scare." Isn't that the whole point of the graphic, to scare us?

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    One "sign" that I would be interested to see would be a supernova. The brightest one, SN1006 obsserved in 1006AD, was the brightest object in the night sky, aside from the moon, and showed up as 2 1/2 to 3 times the size of Venus. It was about 1/4 as bright as the moon, and could even be seen in daylight hours!

    Another "sign" I think would be neat to see is a meteor impact on the moon. I recall watching a show a long time ago, and a monk recorded seeing what appeared to be a second moon rising from the moon. Certainly, if there was a large enough impact, and the sun was at the right angle, the resulting cloud would be visible, albeit for a short period if time probably.

    Oh, and in that linked graphic, it says "Sun and Moon not to scare." Isn't that the whole point of the graphic, to scare us?

    Scary? On the contrary, I find it exciting! Did you see these?

    NASA - NASA Telescopes Join Forces to Observe Unprecedented Explosion

    Global Eruption Rocks the Sun - NASA Science
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    IMO, many signs will be done by the church. Jesus did say that since we are enabled by the same Holy Spirit he was, that we would do EVEN GREATER things than he did. Pray for the unity of believers so that we can all start operating under the same mind set; love.
    1 Peter 2:9 (New International Version)

    But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

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    IMO, many signs will be done by the church. Jesus did say that since we are enabled by the same Holy Spirit he was, that we would do EVEN GREATER things than he did. Pray for the unity of believers so that we can all start operating under the same mind set; love.

    I had never thought of this. What do you think we could do in the heavens?
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    Grizzly900 said:
    Can someone say what they think has been a sign in the heaven's lately over the past 10 or so years?
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    i just think we might see these things begin to happen that we've never seen before. I also believe that if God really wanted to get our attention, that north america's volcanoes might start coming to life cimentainiously. lol.. i'm thinking of getting myself a decent telescope this summer. might not get to use it as much living here in wa state.
    Other than appreciation for God's creation, what is the importance of erupting volcanoes? (BTW I live next door to the southern-most active volcano in the Cascades)
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    i said volcanos that could happen at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzly900 View Post
    i said volcanos that could happen at the same time. you want to argue, find another site
    What's going on?

    Volcanoes are already erupting....unless your talking about such ones as Yellowstone and several other super volcanoes. Perhaps several reaching the magnitude of Pinatubo or more

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    What's going on?

    Volcanoes are already erupting....unless your talking about such ones as Yellowstone and several other super volcanoes. Perhaps several reaching the magnitude of Pinatubo or more

    Not to change the subject... Ok to change the subject, I think super volcanoes will erupt during the tribulation.
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    Not to change the subject... Ok to change the subject, I think super volcanoes will erupt during the tribulation.
    Yeah probably. Could be new ones, submarine volanoes, collapses of islands....I could go on and on...lol

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    i've felt that perhaps before the rapture we would see things in our lifetime that may not have been seen in hundreds of years. Mt. Lassen, in northern ca, as well as maybe 1 in oregon smoking, then 2 in alaska. we always see them erupting in other countries but not much here in the US. the tribuation period will look like japan all over the world. If a earthquake and a tusmami hit on the falt zones in calif triggering a massive tusami, experts say it would turn vancouver, seattle cities into jello. i wonder if this happened as the ring of fire intensifies that we would be wrong, according to some. Look for some of you, i don't think every disaster is related. i look for the increasing of the same event. it's not to hard to understand especially if you stick your nose in the gospels and talk to any prophecy ministry worth their salt. they'll tell you the same thing.
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    I cant believe nobody is talking about the recently discovered comet Elenin that will bypass earth in Sept. Many people believe this is actually the Wormwood star A.K.A.(Nibiru) from Revelation that will bring great destruction on the earth. Theres already evidence that this heavenly body has contributed to the large earthquakes the last two years and could ultimately be responsible for all our crazy weather lately. The discovery of Nibiru or Planet X was published in the 1983 Encyclopedia Britannica but has subsequently been coverd up by the powers that be. It has a orbit of 3600 years, is due to return, and is being tracked on NASAs Jet propulsion website. Research it for yourself and prepare!

    Sept is gonna be VERY exciting Month... prophetically speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowe271 View Post
    I cant believe nobody is talking about the recently discovered comet Elenin that will bypass earth in Sept. Many people believe this is actually the Wormwood star A.K.A.(Nibiru) from Revelation that will bring great destruction on the earth. Theres already evidence that this heavenly body has contributed to the large earthquakes the last two years and could ultimately be responsible for all our crazy weather lately. The discovery of Nibiru or Planet X was published in the 1983 Encyclopedia Britannica but has subsequently been coverd up by the powers that be. It has a orbit of 3600 years, is due to return, and is being tracked on NASAs Jet propulsion website. Research it for yourself and prepare!

    Sept is gonna be VERY exciting Month... prophetically speaking.
    Ah yes. Planet X. Nibiru. Elenin.

    Quoting from Wikipedia:

    The idea of the Nibiru encounter originated with Nancy Lieder, a Wisconsin woman who claims that as a girl she was contacted by gray extraterrestrials called Zetas, who implanted a communications device in her brain. In 1995, she founded the website ZetaTalk to disseminate her ideas.[2] Lieder first came to public attention on Internet newsgroups during the build-up to Comet Hale-Bopp's 1997 perihelion. She stated, speaking as the Zetas, that "The Hale-Bopp comet does not exist. It is a fraud, perpetrated by those who would have the teeming masses quiescent until it is too late. Hale-Bopp is nothing more than a distant star, and will draw no closer."[3] She claimed that the Hale-Bopp story was manufactured to distract people from the imminent arrival of a large planetary object, "Planet X", which would soon pass by Earth and destroy civilization.[3] After Hale-Bopp's perihelion revealed it as one of the brightest and longest-observed comets of the last century,[4] Lieder removed the first two sentences of her initial statement from her site, though they can still be found in Google's archives.[3] Her claims eventually made the New York Times.[5]
    Lieder described Planet X as roughly four times the size of the Earth, and said that its perigee would occur on May 27, 2003, resulting in the Earth's rotation ceasing for exactly 5.9 terrestrial days. This would be followed by the Earth's pole destabilising in a pole shift (a physical pole shift, with the Earth's pole physically moving, rather than a geomagnetic reversal) caused by magnetic attraction between the Earth's core and the magnetism of the passing planet. This in turn would disrupt the Earth's magnetic core and lead to subsequent displacement of the Earth's crust.[6]
    Lieder's Planet X idea first spread beyond her website in 2001, when Mark Hazlewood, a former member of the ZetaTalk community, took her ideas and published them in a book: Blindsided: Planet X Passes in 2003. Lieder would later accuse him of being a confidence trickster.[7] A Japanese cult called the Pana Wave Laboratory, which blocked off roads and rivers with white cloths to protect itself from electromagnetic attacks, also warned that the world would end in May 2003 after the approach of a tenth planet.[8]
    Roughly a week before the supposed arrival of Planet X, Lieder appeared on KROQ radio in Los Angeles, and advised listeners to put their pets down in anticipation of the event. When asked if she had done so, she replied that she had, and that "The puppies are in a happy place." She also advised that "A dog makes a good meal".[9] After the 2003 date passed without incident, Lieder said that it was merely a "White Lie ... to fool the establishment,"[10] and said that to disclose the true date would give those in power enough time to declare martial law and trap people in cities during the shift, leading to their deaths.[11]
    Many Internet sites continue to proclaim that Lieder's object is en route to Earth, often citing its arrival date as December, 2012. This date has gathered many apocalyptic associations, as it is the end of the current cycle (baktun) in the long count in the Mayan calendar. Several writers have published books connecting the collision with 2012.[12] Hazlewood has since changed his views on Planet X, and now says that there are intelligent alien forces acting to protect us as a species, and that we are set to ascend to a higher level of consciousness in 2012.[13]

    Everything above is just the the ravings of a lunatic who claims gray aliens implanted a communications device in her brain or the satanic deception of New Age philosophy.

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    Everything above is just the the ravings of a lunatic who claims gray aliens implanted a communications device in her brain or the satanic deception of New Age philosophy.
    Oh my goodness, and people really believe this stuff.

    Let's just stick to God's Word.
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    new agers are old agers really....they began in the garden of Eden......demons and other unclean spirits....Did we ever ask ourselves what was THE TREE of THE KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL????
    and..we know Adam and Eve could eat with NO LIMITS from THE TREE OF LIFE..but chose the other tree...
    we can only THANK OUR FATHER that JESUS IS OUR TREE OF LIFE...ABUNDANT LIFE....

    and...concerning the "signs'..well,the Jews look for 'signs" and the Greek for Knowledge..but we preach THE WORD,THE LIVING WORD,JESUS.....THE WISDOM of GOD and OUR ETERNAL REDEMPTION....THANK YOU JESUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by arapahoepark View Post
    What's going on?

    Volcanoes are already erupting....unless your talking about such ones as Yellowstone and several other super volcanoes. Perhaps several reaching the magnitude of Pinatubo or more
    i was mentioning in not the clearest terms, volcanoes starting to smoke here in the US. More than 1 at the same time. i mean if mt. lassen in CA started which we haven't seen in our lifetime, and possibly another in OR or WA, believe you me, this would be on everybody's minds and big news. The age of grace is closing and we can expect, or at least I do that this can easily begin to happen especially if the earth has been tilted on its's access from the Japan earthquake. Another huge one that hits S.F could do that. tectontic plates are under stress and i think it's gonna get worse

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    I saw a show a while back discussing the science and theory behind a 10.0 mega quake. A highly unlikely occurrence which would require the unzipping of several subduction zones at the same time.

    So, as far as a 10.0, and volcanoes erupting simultaneously with a VEI of 5+, yeah, it probably will happen...

    ...In the tribulation.

    Now, I do believe we may see an increase of singularly spectacular events before the Rapture, but the grand finale is reserved until afterward.

    Oh, and the Planet X thing... I remember Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell making a big thing about that about a decade ago. Didn't pan out. Oh well, wash, rinse, repeat.

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