Will the AC know who he is?

[BrckBrln]

This question has always bugged me. It seems that a lot of people believe that the AC doesn't know he's the AC until Satan indwells him. I just don't understand that.

Does Satan have somebody special picked out? How does he know when to indwell the person? When he indwells the person does that person not have free will anymore?

I think that some people think the AC gets indwelled after he is supposedly killed and comes back to life but I don't think that is what the Bible is trying to say. Revelation 13 says one of his heads was wounded. I don't think the AC has more than one head so it's obviously talking about the kingdoms that the heads represent.

So can somebody help me out with this? I just always though the AC would just be born and be inherently evil as Satan has always indwelt him.

[Suzanne]

This question has always bugged me. It seems that a lot of people believe that the AC doesn't know he's the AC until Satan indwells him. I just don't understand that.

Does Satan have somebody special picked out? How does he know when to indwell the person? When he indwells the person does that person not have free will anymore?

I think that some people think the AC gets indwelled after he is supposedly killed and comes back to life but I don't think that is what the Bible is trying to say. Revelation 13 says one of his heads was wounded. I don't think the AC has more than one head so it's obviously talking about the kingdoms that the heads represent.

So can somebody help me out with this? I just always though the AC would just be born and be inherently evil as Satan has always indwelt him.

That is such a great question. I don't really know the answer, but I'll give you my opinion anyway. I think that the anti-christ will be different from the time of his early childhood. I don't know if he'll be born evil or if childhood abuse will make him that way. What I do believe is that satan has candidates picked out in every generation. Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin would have all been eligible as far as being evil enough goes.

I think that the anti-christ will willing allow himself to be indwelt. I believe that he'll be so power hungry that he'll take any road he needs to in order to gain control of the world.

I've always believed that the AC would have a literal head wound that would kill him so that Christ's resurrection would be imitated. You've brought up an interesting point about Revelation 13:3. It does read heads instead of head. I'm interested in other people's opinions of that myself.

Thanks for starting an interesting thread.

[REM]

Good question, I'm thinking maybe Satan will wait until the right time to reveal to him the plans for him, say maybe after he's indwelt?

[jacee92]

here is an interesting article on this

http://www.raptureready.com/faq/faq279.html

[barryinaustralia]

Since we believers do not know precisely when Jesus will return for his saints and when the tribulation will begin, then certainly Satan cannot know the exact timing. The adversary in my opinion will have candidates in different periods of time who will become anointed.

Barry

[BrckBrln]

I'm not sure I buy into this whole candidate for every generation. The AC can't come from just anywhere in the world or the Bible wouldn't be true. Like Hitler could never have been the AC because he doesn't fit in with what the Bible has to say about the location of the AC.

I'm sure Satan knows maybe more than we do about end times and I think that maybe God has an appointed person at a certain time to be the AC and Satan just goes along with it.

[readytogo]

I agree with Barry and others on the board--Satan in not omniscient and doesn't know when the "time" will come. I also believe that he has prepared others (within the boundaries of prophecy) in different generations who would be ready to go into action.

However, I don't know that this person will be outwardly evil by the world's standards. I don't think that he is going to "look evil" or be some kind of megalomaniac growing up. I doubt that he spent his childhood setting kittens on fire and burying neighbors in his basement. He's going to have to be perceived as a brilliant peaceful world leader for a time. He could even be very attractive. But all the time harboring in his heart the same thoughts that Lucifer had--putting himself on a par (or even above) the Most High. Satan will be able to convince him that he has a chance to defeat God and by allowing Satan to indwell him, he would have Satan's power to insure the victory. In today's world, it wouldn't be hard to convince the AC that God doesn't have any REAL power. After all, it took MILLIONS of years for God to create people and he messed up and had to go through apes to get there!

Or Satan could convince the AC that he and God were co-creators... Anyway, I think that the AC will probably invite Satan to indwell him.
Although, I KNOW that God already knows who the AC is, but I don't think that it is God who "appointed" him.

Just my opinion...

[justme]

I guess I look at things from a different viewpoint. I don't see it as Satan knowing bible prophecy and just waiting for his chance to (fullfill his part).


Rather......

I look at it from God's point of view. When that point in time comes this is what will happen and God has told us in advance. Only God knows the future......not Satan. He's a ding-dong and not nearly as smart as God and when the time comes he will simply step into his role as God foresaw/knows it. No prepping the A/C or planning ahead of time needed!

[Adopted Son]

The best definition of arrogance I have seen is something like, "the results are because of me." This of course denies the will of God as well as the natural laws of the universe, also authored by the Creator. At any time, we can all choose, obstensively because it makes us feel good or important, to become arrogant. We can think our success is due to our efforts.

At some point, a human being will choose to worship their arrogant nature. This will lead to dark thoughts, and the need to continue that amazing feeling of power. And he will turn to Satan to get that boost. (This process may have already begun) This is the main reason I have tried to be self-effacing my whole life. I didn't want it to be me!

[Betty]

I don't know who the anti-Christ is going to be, but we already have arrogant people who think that the most important thing is believing in self. Last Sunday the magazine that came with our newspaper had an article on Brad Pitt. It talked about how he was raised in a fundamental Christian home and attended a fundamental believing Church, but he said that when he went to College, he put aside his beliefs and begin to believe in self. In his opinion we should not worry about anything but the here and now and what great works you can do to make the world a better place. I am no way saying Brad Pitt is the ant-Christ, he doesn't me the criteria, but I am saying that self worship and believing only in what self can accomplish is already here. Tom Cruise and people of Scientology believe that they can become "gods".
People like these don't need God, they think because they can fix everything wrong in the world by themselves. We know the truth, man is sinful and with out God we are indeed deplorable people not capable of fixing our own lives much less the world.
The difference in the anti-Christ and these people who believe that self importance, overrides God, is the ant-Christ will demand and get people to worship himself.

[Homesick]

Interesting question which I have considered myself many times. Take the life of Jesus as a possible clue. Satan did know that Jesus had been born but did not know who He was which we can see from Herods trying to find out where the baby was from the wise men. We also know that Jesus knew who He was from a very young age, and the demons Knew who He was at least by the time He started his ministry. I'm guessing that the antichrist will also realize who he is at a young age though with so many people with mental problems today even if he comes out and says it we still won't know who he is until he is revealed by God. So my vote is yes the antichrist and Satan will both know who the antichrist is at some point early on in the ACs life. He will want to be about HIS fathers business just as Jesus wanted to about His fathers business.

[thallon]

i personally believe that the Antichrist was born about 1980 to 1990
in Iraq.
He grew up under Saddam hussien
and grew to hate the american occupation of his country from the last ten years.
He is now about 30 years of age, living in Mosul.
I;m Speculating, BIG SPECULATING.
He will overthrow the Iraq government within three to five years,
and invade other countries in the region backed by Turkey, libya, russia, iran?
finally in a big war he will sign a seven year deal to avoid world war.
he will be about 40,
that should be about 2023 to 2027
He will lose world backing half way through the seven years with a nuclear war the result.
and finally be cast into the lake of fire about the age of 50 plus around 2030 to 2037.

but will he know who he is?
I think he will believe he is someone great as all dictators do.
born to save islam and his nation, given power by God.
But he will be more than all the other dictators,
but like Judas i don't think he will know he was born for a purpose
or that an evil spirit is in him.

[GlennO]

As I was scrolling through the 'New Post' function I was to see this thread with 11 posts and 555 views. I imagine no additional commentary is required .........

[king'sbloomingrose]

i personally believe that the Antichrist was born about 1980 to 1990
in Iraq.
He grew up under Saddam hussien
and grew to hate the american occupation of his country from the last ten years.
He is now about 30 years of age, living in Mosul.
I;m Speculating, BIG SPECULATING.
He will overthrow the Iraq government within three to five years,
and invade other countries in the region backed by Turkey, libya, russia, iran?
finally in a big war he will sign a seven year deal to avoid world war.
he will be about 40,
that should be about 2023 to 2027
He will lose world backing half way through the seven years with a nuclear war the result.
and finally be cast into the lake of fire about the age of 50 plus around 2030 to 2037.

Thallon, I just want to caution you that RF does not endorse speculation about who the AntiChrist is or when he will be revealed. Going outside what the Bible has said on the subject, is getting into the dangerous field of speculation, when honestly the fact is that we don't know who is the AntiChrist or where he will come from. Then when speculations don't come true, the unbelieving world has reason to laugh at and to riducule us Christians.

[YeuEmMaiMai]

I am going to go with the answer of "Absolutely" that the Anti-Christ knows who he is when the timing is right....because he WILL WILLINGLY ACCEPT the indwelling of satan......just like Judas willingly turned Jesus over to be hung on the cross

[Dunamis]

I believe history has proven that in mans journey to conquer the world throughout the ages has been by rule of one individual. When we examine king nebbies dream of the 7 world empires they all had a person that ruled them all so its based in assumption that there are candidates tuat may or may not be hand picked by satan but i believe world powers are heavily influenced by demonic manipulation in which when one person does seize control he will be easily seduced into possession. As we all know people can only be possessed when they consent whether by deception or willingly and knowingly. I am not a conspiracy theorist but if the illiminati exists and they are confessed and practicing luciferians then there may be leaders within the organization competing for control of the world at the direction of their God (satan) one thing is certain i wont be here when it happens lol

[Robert]

i personally believe that the Antichrist was born about 1980 to 1990
in Iraq.
He grew up under Saddam hussien
and grew to hate the american occupation of his country from the last ten years.
He is now about 30 years of age, living in Mosul.
I;m Speculating, BIG SPECULATING.
He will overthrow the Iraq government within three to five years,
and invade other countries in the region backed by Turkey, libya, russia, iran?
finally in a big war he will sign a seven year deal to avoid world war.
he will be about 40,
that should be about 2023 to 2027
He will lose world backing half way through the seven years with a nuclear war the result.
and finally be cast into the lake of fire about the age of 50 plus around 2030 to 2037.

but will he know who he is?
I think he will believe he is someone great as all dictators do.
born to save islam and his nation, given power by God.
But he will be more than all the other dictators,
but like Judas i don't think he will know he was born for a purpose
or that an evil spirit is in him.

I know EXACTLY who the AC is, and more importantly, he KNOWS WHO HE IS...


Here he is:





I rest my case.

[Dunamis]

I know EXACTLY who the AC is, and more importantly, he KNOWS WHO HE IS...


Here he is:





I rest my case.

His name is swamp cooler lol

[momoffaith]

I know EXACTLY who the AC is, and more importantly, he KNOWS WHO HE IS...


Here he is:





I rest my case.

[daygo]

Me personally I do not think that he will or does know hes the ac, not initially anyway, my gut feeling is that once in adulthood he will practice certain things which will eventually lead him into this knowledge about half way through the trib. Just a gut feeling am afraid.