Uncle Sam's Diminishing Role in Bible Prophecy

[Chris]

Uncle Sam's Diminishing Role in Bible Prophecy

Uncle Sam's Diminishing Role in Bible Prophecy
By Todd Strandberg

One of the most frequent questions Terry and I are asked has do with America's role in Bible prophecy. At the end of World War II, the U.S. emerged as a financial and military superpower. Prophecy scholars found themselves having to explain why such a mighty nation was left out of the biblical end-time scenario.

Some folks have twisted Scripture to find a role for the U.S in the Bible. Anglo-Israelism is one example. The late Herbert W. Armstrong helped popularize the idea that America had replaced Israel. The claim rests on the idea that Britain comprised descendants of the lost tribes of Israel, and that America was settled by Britain.

Some sites say the passage, "The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle" (Revelation 12:14), is an indication that Israel (the woman) will flee to America (the eagle) when the Antichrist tries to destroy her. Another popular reference to America in prophecy is Ezekiel 38:13. Ezekiel speaks of the "merchants of Tarshish and all the young lions thereof." Tarshish is described as the westernmost trading and seafaring nation of the ancient world--Britain again. The young lions are the colonies. I don't stand by any of these references because they are just not solid enough, and they can lead to less credible speculation.

In the past few years, I've seen a growing indication that the question of America's role in prophecy may be answered by our rapidly diminishing importance on the world stage. At one time, the GDP of the U.S. was equal to the combined output of all other nations on planet earth. Today, we rank second to the European Union, and China is rapidly working to bump us down to third place.

Our nation has lost several key rankings that it once dominated. For decades, New York City was the financial capital of the world. That title has now been given to London. The largest auto market is now in China. We once dominated the list of world's tallest buildings. Now we only have the Willis Tower (formerly the Sears Tower) as number nine on the list. We've even lost our status as the global headquarters for gambling. A few years back, Las Vegas surrendered that honor to the Chinese city of Macao.

The main source of America's might has been the dollar's status as the world's reserve currency. Since all other nations needed the greenback to conduct trade, part of our prosperity came from our ability to operate a printing press. The dollar's reign may soon come to an end.

At the beginning of this month, China and Japan, the two largest holders of America's securities, began trading goods and services between each other without using the dollar. China and Iran have already been working for several months to undermine the petro-dollar system that has been used for decades as the backbone of global oil trade.

The financial crisis in Europe has given a temporary boost to the dollar's value, but in the long run, our more massive debt load will prove to be more difficult to manage.

America no longer has an economy based on manufacturing, so a sudden collapse of the global fiat money system and a return to a system based on the balance of trade would devastate our standing in the world. For a long time, I looked at Wal-Mart as a major problem, with so much of its goods being imported. A sharp decline in the value of the dollar would make imports too costly for us to afford, and we would find ourselves unable to produce basic household products like phones, cameras, TVs, and computers.

Another business that has been slowly chewing away at our nation's financial health are all these cash-for-gold stores you see in every major city. Most of the gold that these businesses take in from people is exported to Asia. Since the dollar seems doomed to decline as a result of our growing national debt, America will someday regret selling its precious metals for a few hundred dollar when the value of those sold items rises into the thousands.

The ultimate factor in America's absence from Bible prophecy may be the Rapture. When the church is called home, at least 40 million Christians will instantly disappear from our nation. Since believers are part of the financial backbone of America, our sudden removal would have a devastating impact on the economy. Because the negative consequences of being left behind are so high, I ask everyone with any doubt to rethink where you stand with God.

"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness" (2 Peter 3:10-11).

- Todd

[billym]

The ultimate factor in America's absence from Bible prophecy may be the Rapture. When the church is called home, at least 40 million Christians will instantly disappear from our nation. Since believers are part of the financial backbone of America, our sudden removal would have a devastating impact on the economy. Because the negative consequences of being left behind are so high, I ask everyone with any doubt to rethink where you stand with God.

"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness" (2 Peter 3:10-11).


I agree.

[Robert]

With the sale of our land, gold and property to foreign nations, we have essentially sold out our nation to the rest of the world. And we are now reaping the bitter harvest of this insidious crop.

[Sean Osborne]

One of the most frequent questions Terry and I are asked has do with America's role in Bible prophecy. At the end of World War II, the U.S. emerged as a financial and military superpower. Prophecy scholars found themselves having to explain why such a mighty nation was left out of the biblical end-time scenario.

Is the UK mentioned by name in Bible prophecy? France? Germany? Italy? Spain? Holland? Denmark?

I think you catch my drift.

Except for Israel, Egypt, Cush, Puwt, Lebanon, Asshur, Aram, Paras and a few other ancient Genesis 10 'Table of Nations' countries there are no specific references to any modern-day nation in Bible prophecy. The view held by some prophecy expositiors that because a great nation such as the U.S. is not specifically mentioned in Bible prophecy means that the country suddenly disappears from the earth is extremely myopic in my eschatological view.

Some folks have twisted Scripture to find a role for the U.S in the Bible.

And some folks flat out ignore the obvious in an age where inter-continental, multi-national alliances, such as NATO, are the in-your-face 'last days' norm and could more than easily fulfill the prophetic shoes of Daniel 9:26b (And the people of the prince who is to come) and the vast military juggernaut, the two feet and ten toes of iron and miry clay (see Daniel 2) under the Antichrist's control. Other than this the Bible names groups of nations, such the "kings of the east." It names others groups to the north and south. This leaves the Antichrist base in the west - where Europe and the Americas reside.

Another popular reference to America in prophecy is Ezekiel 38:13. Ezekiel speaks of the "merchants of Tarshish and all the young lions thereof." Tarshish is described as the westernmost trading and seafaring nation of the ancient world--Britain again. The young lions are the colonies. I don't stand by any of these references because they are just not solid enough, and they can lead to less credible speculation.

That's a shame because it is most probably the fact-of-the-matter.

In the past few years, I've seen a growing indication that the question of America's role in prophecy may be answered by our rapidly diminishing importance on the world stage.

Not exactly. NATO could not function effectively in Libya without US warfighters and command and control. Same is now occuring in Syria. They key aspect of the Antichrist's reign will be his ability to call upon an overwhelming military force when he overthrows, destroys, annihilates, conquers and passes through dozens of nations at will, excepting only those where Israel will be protected by God.

[Sean Osborne]

Yes, I absolutely despise and reject the "hate America", or "America is doomed" and all the related glass-half-empty eschatological garbage that so many are all to eager to espouse. That kind of negativism is utterly worthless IMHO. It has zero value.

Prophetically speaking... and especially with respect to the current 'last days' age, the proverbial fat lady has not sung yet. We're in the season of that proverbial "singing," but it has not yet begun. Those who say it has are clearly in gross error. The actual start date is a literal unknown of all unknowns. THAT is a Biblical fact.

ONLY God Almighty decides that microsecond in time when the Church age ends and when Israel's 70th Week will begin. Anything outside of this Biblical prophetic truth is pure nonsense.

The fact is that there is much work to do and the completely pre-mature doom-and-gloom it's-all-over nonsense has to stop. Seriously, it has to stop. There is nothing of everlasting value that a Christian can convey to the unbeliver by invoking a doom-and-gloom witness. Zippo, Nada, None. Negativism has never and will never "sell." The Blessed Hope and positivism of belief in Jesus Christ works first time and every time.

Back to the nation of my birth... as long as the Bride of Christ is resident on this earth, then America has without question the greatest-of-all-time number of individual Spirit-empowered tools prior to the 70th Week that exists. Period. Bar None.

Give the still-living, God-fearing America her due and stop with the useless negative garbage.

Amen.

[Robert]

Yes, I absolutely despise and reject the "hate America", or "America is doomed" and all the related glass-half-empty eschatological garbage that so many are all to eager to espouse. That kind of negativism is utterly worthless IMHO. It has zero value.

Prophetically speaking... and especially with respect to the current 'last days' age, the proverbial fat lady has not sung yet. We're in the season of that proverbial "singing," but it has not yet begun. Those who say it has are clearly in gross error. The actual start date is a literal unknown of all unknowns. THAT is a Biblical fact.

ONLY God Almighty decides that microsecond in time when the Church age ends and when Israel's 70th Week will begin. Anything outside of this Biblical prophetic truth is pure nonsense.

The fact is that there is much work to do and the completely pre-mature doom-and-gloom it's-all-over nonsense has to stop. Seriously, it has to stop. There is nothing of everlasting value that a Christian can convey to the unbeliver by invoking a doom-and-gloom witness. Zippo, Nada, None. Negativism has never and will never "sell." The Blessed Hope and positivism of belief in Jesus Christ works first time and every time.

Back to the nation of my birth... as long as the Bride of Christ is resident on this earth, then America has without question the greatest-of-all-time number of individual Spirit-empowered tools prior to the 70th Week that exists. Period. Bar None.

Give the still-living, God-fearing America her due and stop with the useless negative garbage.

Amen.

There is a major difference between "giving America her due" and bordering on idolatry. If you consider those of us who see the sliding of the US down a precarious slope "negative, then tell me what you would make of the writer of the following:

"Behold, the Lord GOD will come with might, With His arm ruling for Him. Behold, His reward is with Him And His recompense before Him. Like a shepherd He will tend His flock, In His arm He will gather the lambs And carry them in His bosom; He will gently lead the nursing ewes. Who has measured the waters in the hollow of His hand, And marked off the heavens by the span, And calculated the dust of the earth by the measure, And weighed the mountains in a balance And the hills in a pair of scales? Who has directed the Spirit of the LORD, Or as His counselor has informed Him? With whom did He consult and who gave Him understanding? And who taught Him in the path of justice and taught Him knowledge And informed Him of the way of understanding? Behold, the nations are like a drop from a bucket, And are regarded as a speck of dust on the scales; Behold, He lifts up the islands like fine dust. Even Lebanon is not enough to burn, Nor its beasts enough for a burnt offering. All the nations are as nothing before Him, They are regarded by Him as less than nothing and meaningless. To whom then will you liken God? Or what likeness will you compare with Him? As for the idol, a craftsman casts it, A goldsmith plates it with gold, And a silversmith fashions chains of silver. He who is too impoverished for such an offering Selects a tree that does not rot; He seeks out for himself a skillful craftsman To prepare an idol that will not totter. Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. He it is who reduces rulers to nothing, Who makes the judges of the earth meaningless." (Isaiah 40:10-23, NASB)

God judged Israel for her sins and she was sent out of the land twice. And she was the "apple of God's eye"! So with the US, who has no promises, what do you think the Lord will do to her for her abominations? You claim "negativity" on the behalf of those who disagree with you, but fail to see that this nation has all but cast the Lord out!!! Look around you and tell me if this is still the nation that God once smiled upon: I guarantee you that it is not. It is a pale simulacrum of the nation that fought and won WWII with the blessing of the Lord, and a far cry from the country my dad fought for.

So call it what you will, but when a country that sees fit to eliminate God from all areas of government, allows the sale of land, industry and everything not bolted down, allows the shipping of jobs out of the country, creates veterans in time of national need and then throw them to the wolves when the nation has no more use for them and squanders the resources it has to the point that we are paying ludicrous amounts at the pump, starts to show signs that God is lifting His hand of protection from her, I don't call that negativity....



...I call it what it is: God fed up with the nations playing the *****.


So feel free to get upset; but before you do, consider how the Lord must feel about a nation He blessed turning her back on Him. of all the people I have ever known, the Lord must have had His heart broken the most times.

[WalterNZ]

Hhmmm seems you have overlooked a few vital global influences that America has on the world.... be it positive or negative it is still leading the world in these areas...

Media
Internet
Film
Law
Technology
Military
Medicine
Pop culture
Fasion

...

I believe that China is propping up Europe financially and economically to eventually become dominant over U>S, and lets not forget the wells of money old and new in Switzerland, Rome (vatican], Netherlands dutch mining, royal money, i think what were seeing is more the historical essense of economies re forming with the fall of Americas economy...

[Sean Osborne]

There is a major difference between "giving America her due" and bordering on idolatry.

"Bordering on idolatry?"

[BuzzardHut]

I wonder how much footing the Mormons take on this country after the rapture.

[mikhen7]

I wonder how much footing the Mormons take on this country after the rapture.

That is an outstanding question!! I wonder what deception they will have to deliver to get the masses to believe they are the true followers?? As many times as they have been witnessed to, maybe they will convert to true Christianity enmasse!!???

[Meg]

There is a major difference between "giving America her due" and bordering on idolatry. If you consider those of us who see the sliding of the US down a precarious slope "negative, then tell me what you would make of the writer of the following:

"Behold, the Lord GOD will come with might, With His arm ruling for Him. Behold, His reward is with Him And His recompense before Him. Like a shepherd He will tend His flock, In His arm He will gather the lambs And carry them in His bosom; He will gently lead the nursing ewes. Who has measured the waters in the hollow of His hand, And marked off the heavens by the span, And calculated the dust of the earth by the measure, And weighed the mountains in a balance And the hills in a pair of scales? Who has directed the Spirit of the LORD, Or as His counselor has informed Him? With whom did He consult and who gave Him understanding? And who taught Him in the path of justice and taught Him knowledge And informed Him of the way of understanding? Behold, the nations are like a drop from a bucket, And are regarded as a speck of dust on the scales; Behold, He lifts up the islands like fine dust. Even Lebanon is not enough to burn, Nor its beasts enough for a burnt offering. All the nations are as nothing before Him, They are regarded by Him as less than nothing and meaningless. To whom then will you liken God? Or what likeness will you compare with Him? As for the idol, a craftsman casts it, A goldsmith plates it with gold, And a silversmith fashions chains of silver. He who is too impoverished for such an offering Selects a tree that does not rot; He seeks out for himself a skillful craftsman To prepare an idol that will not totter. Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. He it is who reduces rulers to nothing, Who makes the judges of the earth meaningless." (Isaiah 40:10-23, NASB)

God judged Israel for her sins and she was sent out of the land twice. And she was the "apple of God's eye"! So with the US, who has no promises, what do you think the Lord will do to her for her abominations? You claim "negativity" on the behalf of those who disagree with you, but fail to see that this nation has all but cast the Lord out!!! Look around you and tell me if this is still the nation that God once smiled upon: I guarantee you that it is not. It is a pale simulacrum of the nation that fought and won WWII with the blessing of the Lord, and a far cry from the country my dad fought for.

So call it what you will, but when a country that sees fit to eliminate God from all areas of government, allows the sale of land, industry and everything not bolted down, allows the shipping of jobs out of the country, creates veterans in time of national need and then throw them to the wolves when the nation has no more use for them and squanders the resources it has to the point that we are paying ludicrous amounts at the pump, starts to show signs that God is lifting His hand of protection from her, I don't call that negativity....



...I call it what it is: God fed up with the nations playing the *****.


So feel free to get upset; but before you do, consider how the Lord must feel about a nation He blessed turning her back on Him. of all the people I have ever known, the Lord must have had His heart broken the most times.

To Buzz and Mikhen7, you raise superb points! Even so, come Lord... We may well be much closer than I sometimes dare hope...

[Sean Osborne]

Look around you and tell me if this is still the nation that God once smiled upon...

I see, so you're trying to tell me that God was smiling upon America when:

1) she was party to the brutal enslavement of 4.3 million human beings?
2) when American brother slew American brother to the tune of over six hundred twenty-five thousand during the Civil War?
3) when the native population was decimated and displaced from sea to shining sea over the past 200 years?
4) when well over a six hundred thousand people perished in a flu pandemic?

So you think God was smiling upon America during these times which constitute the bulk of America's history and existence, eh?

What you have succeeded in convincing me of is that the 10 centuries Olde English proverb is true: "You can lead a horse to water, but ya can't make it drink."

Stay thristy my friend.

[Robert]

I see, so you're trying to tell me that God was smiling upon America when:

1) she was party to the brutal enslavement of 4.3 million human beings?
2) when American brother slew American brother to the tune of over six hundred twenty-five thousand during the Civil War?
3) when the native population was decimated and displaced from sea to shining sea over the past 200 years?
4) when well over a six hundred thousand people perished in a flu pandemic?

So you think God was smiling upon America during these times which constitute the bulk of America's history and existence, eh?

What you have succeeded in convincing me of is that the 10 centuries Olde English proverb is true: "You can lead a horse to water, but ya can't make it drink."

Stay thristy my friend.

Let's flip this around...

You're telling me God wasn't when:

1) She won her independence from Britain
2) Fought a major war (WWII) on multiple fronts and won?
3) Blessed her with industry and provision to become a world power?
4) The US backed the reestablishment of Israel in 1948?

God makes the sun shine and the rain fall on sinner and saint alike, but in the past, the US had clung to the Lord. No, she wasn't perfect, but the Lord requires faith; perfection you won't find on this planet anytime soon in the physical realm. That said, this nation has turned her back on the Lord, and while judgment is not yet, the hand of the Lord is lifting off her.

And yes, you can lead a horse to water; but when you muddy the water, don't be surprised when the horse doesn't drink.

[Sean Osborne]

Let's flip this around...

You're telling me God wasn't when:

1) She won her independence from Britain
2) Fought a major war (WWII) on multiple fronts and won?
3) Blessed her with industry and provision to become a world power?
4) The US backed the reestablishment of Israel in 1948?

Robert,

I told you no such thing, but thank you anyway for completing the loop and making my point - the ONLY thing that God does with ANY NATION is to bring His Will to its sovereign fulness.

I'll say it again in case you missed it the first time...

Is the UK mentioned by name in Bible prophecy? France? Germany? Italy? Spain? Holland? Denmark?

I think you catch my drift.

Except for Israel, Egypt, Cush, Puwt, Lebanon, Asshur, Aram, Paras and a few other ancient Genesis 10 'Table of Nations' countries there are no specific references to any modern-day nation in Bible prophecy. The view held by some prophecy expositiors that because a great nation such as the U.S. is not specifically mentioned in Bible prophecy means that the country suddenly disappears from the earth is extremely myopic in my eschatological view.

[Meg]

I see, so you're trying to tell me that God was smiling upon America when:

1) she was party to the brutal enslavement of 4.3 million human beings?
2) when American brother slew American brother to the tune of over six hundred twenty-five thousand during the Civil War?
3) when the native population was decimated and displaced from sea to shining sea over the past 200 years?
4) when well over a six hundred thousand people perished in a flu pandemic?

So you think God was smiling upon America during these times which constitute the bulk of America's history and existence, eh?

What you have succeeded in convincing me of is that the 10 centuries Olde English proverb is true: "You can lead a horse to water, but ya can't make it drink."

Stay thristy my friend.

For all the horrors of those times, there are two details that you have overlooked, Sean. First, there were sweeping plagues of smallpox, scarlet fever and amoebic dysentery which afflicted many at that time, and second, this nation was more Christian than not at that time. These days the opposite is true. America at large has abandoned the Lord, rejected His commands and turned to all manner of ugly sin with an increasing lust for more. This sort of rebellion got Israel judged and it is getting America judged as well. It is entirely possible for the Lord to remove His lampstand when it is not being attended to properly, and there is every reason to believe this is precisely what is happening to America now. I know this hurts you, it hurts me, and it hurts my husband, much more than may be easy for you to perceive. We do not glory in what is happening to this country, in fact we grieve deeply for this wounded Eagle that was once a world leader but lately has fallen to an international embarrassment. Abraham Lincoln saw this coming when he stated that America could never be brought down from without, but only from within, and it is entirely possible that he was speaking in the Holy Spirit when he said that. All the hopeful manipulation of prophetic interpretation isn't going to change that. The only possible hope is to remind people in positions of influence in this nation the importance of doing things God's way in every aspect of life, something that many Americans at all levels are rejecting in favor of some shallow mysticism and other short term pursuits of self interest. By this I mean the outsourcing of jobs, the left-leaning politics and the pursuit of large profits for the few at the expense of the stability of the majority. Sin always fails, and sin is failing the USA on a very fast track.

[Littlejoe]

Daniel 7:2-8.In the Four beast vision decsribes The U.S and the rest of the nations that will form the world government beast..Daniel 7:2 tells us to the "T" America ,Great Britain..The first beast was like lion,and had eagles wings,That Daniel watched, as He watched till the wings were plucked off the lion..Made to stand on "two feet like a man",and a mans heart was given to it.But the same vision is given In Revelation 13 of the "World government beast"that has a different look,this time they are not seperate but as "One"The nations that form the core of the World System..The only part thats not there is the "Eagle's wing.America is not there in these endtimes.I think thats because one of 3 thing's happens to the U.S,either were destroyed in this coming war,we either go back in with Great Britain.Or we just become an isolated nation as the power shifts back to the EU.I don't think God would have left out in the endtime the most powerful nation the World has ever seen without a role..

[Robert]

Robert,

I told you no such thing, but thank you anyway for completing the loop and making my point - the ONLY thing that God does with ANY NATION is to bring His Will to its sovereign fulness.

I'll say it again in case you missed it the first time...

Actually, you did when you insinuated God wasn't during the times the US fouled up.

And I believe I got your point the first time, which I'm pretty sure was that all of us were being negative for thinking the US was mortally wounded. My point is that we cannot set any nation on so high a pedestal as to think it cannot fall, or assign it such a lofty place as to think it is permanent.

[Sean Osborne]

Actually, you did when you insinuated God wasn't during the times the US fouled up.

Insinuated? No Robert. Negative. You are 100% incorrect. I didn't insinuate anything of the sort. On the contrary, I cited four historical facts which prove that God neither smiles or frowns upon the US. As I have stated repeatedly, the will of God will was and is being done as it always has been done. Period.

And I believe I got your point the first time, which I'm pretty sure was that all of us were being negative for thinking the US was mortally wounded.

Nope, your response absolutely confirms that you missed my point. It's like you're too busy wading around in the shallow end of the pool to bother with the other side. Take a drive into the deep end - there's more water over there.

And when you jump in you'll find this waiting for you:

"As long as the Bride of Christ is resident on this earth, then America has without question the greatest-of-all-time number of individual Spirit-empowered tools prior to the 70th Week that exists."

This is the current fact-of-the-matter and will be the fact-of-the-matter until such time as God sends His Son to collect the Bride. Yes, the incredibly positive aspect of this has been missed completely. It is the Lord's Will staring in the face all of those negative doom-and-gloomers who continually espouse all of the nauseating, ridiculously defeatist, America is toast pablum. I hear and see a lot of self-righteous people saying these things. The problem is these people are not repeating anything the God has said or done. It is infantile pablum and it is all in error.

My point is that we cannot set any nation on so high a pedestal as to think it cannot fall, or assign it such a lofty place as to think it is permanent.

Your point does not apply to anything I have written.

[Sean Osborne]

For all the horrors of those times, there are two details that you have overlooked, Sean.

Meg,

The Bride of Christ is resident in these United States. Right here, right now. Per capita there are more of us than ever before in these United States. Therefore, if what you say is correct and "sin is failing the USA on a very fast track" then the resident Bride of Christ in America is not using the power of the Holy Spirit as our Lord told us it could and should be used.

Who is it that is failing then? The sinners or the so-called saints?

[mattfivefour]

I am not sure that there are more saints than ever before in the US or Canada. Not when I see the results of surveys that show that many of those who identify themselves as Christians on surveys also deny the accuracy of the Word of God, are not sure about how much of the Bible to believe, are not sure how much of the gospels is fact, and believe that we need a new Christian message for today as what is written in the bible was for a time long ago.

That said, I agree with Sean's point— "... if what you say is correct and 'sin is failing the USA on a very fast track' then the resident Bride of Christ in America is not using the power of the Holy Spirit as our Lord told us it could and should be used. Who is it that is failing then? The sinners or the so-called saints?" Exactly! But let us recognize that the failing saint is a person wrapped up in disobedience; and all disobedience is sin (1 John 3:4; 5:17). If those who truly call upon Christ's name would live to serve Him—not according to their own ideas but according to the Word He has given us—and do so without fear of consequences, then America and the world might be a quite different place!

That said, prophecy shall not be broken. God has fore-spoken what we see happening, and nothing we can do will alter it. Yet, for all that, we can most definitely bring the message to Christ to all we can, both in word and in demonstration of its truth through our lives. In that way the power of the Holy Spirit is manifest in and through us ... and God's Kingdom is expanded as He has ordained. Let us all be faithful workers for Him.

Nothing else that we do on this forum or in our lives will bear fruit or earn any reward in Heaven.