The Matrix is REAL!! There are no "Good Nations" versus "Bad Nations"

[This]

This is one of THE BEST articles I have EVER seen!! What a blessing for Rapture Ready - Rapture resource for the end times to have posted these.

This series of articles accurately outlines the NWO Full Population Control that will soon infiltrate America AND the rest of world. China is the model society for which One World Government will aspire to. This is going to get REALLY, REALLY UGLY, REALLY, REALLY SOON!!

By Donna Wasson

By Donna Wasson

By Donna Wasson

By Donna Wasson

By Donna Wasson

No one will want to be here for this!! ALL will want to escape, if they ONLY KNEW what was coming!!

However, only Jesus offers that escape. May we get as many as possible on the “ark” before it gets taken off the planet!! Take hope, for we MUST see these things arise before the end comes. But more importantly, before the end comes, the Rapture must come first!!

MARANATHA!! He comes soon!!

[Meg]

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[Robert]

Rothchilds, Illuminati, Bilderburger, Tri-Lateral Commission, Rockefellers and the NWO; if that doesn't cry "conspiracy", nothing does.


I've warned about conspiracy-hunting in the past, and the whole "Matrix" thing strikes me as using pop culture to try to reach the lost. I think scripture works a lot better and is more trustworthy.

[This]

Rothchilds, Illuminati, Bilderburger, Tri-Lateral Commission, Rockefellers and the NWO; if that doesn't cry "conspiracy", nothing does.


I've warned about conspiracy-hunting in the past, and the whole "Matrix" thing strikes me as using pop culture to try to reach the lost. I think scripture works a lot better and is more trustworthy.

The groups you quote above as "conspiracy" exist. Some even having there own web-sites. How do you expect a One World Government to form? Do you expect a NWO to just magically appear? If it appears organized, there MUST BE an organization - this is a FACT!!

Satan is the temporary god of this world. He has ALWAYS strived for One World Government, dating back to the first attempt of Nimrod. It would only make sense that he would have secretive instruments and organizations to do his bidding.

There influence is renowned. Have you not seen the video of Hillary Clinton admitting that it is the Council on Foreign Relations that guide the U.S. governments foreign policy agenda:

NWO Operative Hillary Clinton Admits CFR Runs America! - YouTube
This video is here for all to see. This isn't conspiracy theory, this is conspiracy fact!!

Government "for the people by the people" has been replaced with "to the people by the elite controlled hierarchy"!! The government has over 450 million hollow point citizen killing bullets on order to prove this - THAT'S A FACT AS WELL!!

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/atk...k=MW_news_stmp

[Meg]

Seems to me if anyone with real power is up to no good, its not exactly going to be common knowledge. If they don't want the public to know, people are not going to find out, which is why conspiracy theory guesswork is so popular. Furthermore, if you actually understood the repercussions of genuine evil, such as the horrors perpetuated in secret by communist governments, for example, you probably wouldn't find all these things so exciting.

[mattfivefour]

This, yes the organizations do exist. That is not the point. The point is the purpose of each. Conspiracists would have us believe that they were all created to rule us. No, they were each created for a different purpose as is stated in the historical accounts of each institution; but, in common, they each have the belief that their expertise in various facets of national and international affairs has benefit for all. Hilary Clinton did NOT, in that video, state the CFR runs America ... except to a conspiratorial mind. She stated that they offer good advice which government avails itself of. And in some (many?) cases they do offer good worldly, humanistic advice. Will such organizations help herald, or even usher in, the A/C? Absolutely. But it will not be because they have been working toward that goal. It will be because they are so humanistic and puffed up in the "wisdom"—the absolute rightness—of their own ideas as to believe that the A/C, when he arrives, has the answers the world needs and thus they will support him in their implementation.

To take the conspiracists' interpretation is to play into their agenda of fear. Sadly it governs their lives. They take an almost perverse pleasure in it. And it suits Satan's purpose perfectly. Instead we should recognize that ALL human institutions (governments, law enforcement, military, food production, health care, everything) will become tools for the A/C; and thus we should be preaching the gospel at every opportunity because that is the ONLY way man can be saved ... both from the consequences of his sin and from what is to come. I do not care if the Bilderburgers, CFR, Illuminati (whatever that might be other than, if you believe all that's been said about them, the most useless and incompetent group in history), and the Tri-Lateral commission, etc etc all get together and form a gigantic coalition and permeate every aspect of human government. It means nothing. God is in control and He will allow what is in His perfect plan. So let's concentrate on the things of God and let the things of man and of Satan (who is the prince and the god of this world system) run their course. Our course is clear. And so is God's instruction to us— set your minds on the things of heaven, not of earth.

[This]

So tell me, exactly how is hanging out on this website fulfilling the Great Commission? Do you REALLY believe that unsaved people EVER come to visit this site other than to mock?

As for me, I trust in the Lord, I do not live in fear and I certainly do not take joy in what is about to happen to the world.

Indeed, just because I don't have the same world view as some of the "regulars" here doesn't mean that I am suddenly a conspiracist or less of a Christian that you.

Bottom line: Things are about to get really ugly. The noose is tightening. Burying your head in the sand doesn't change this harsh reality. We are not assigned to wrath, but many will be - AND SOON, REALLY SOON!!

[This]

By the way, every one of these five articles were on the front page of Rapture Ready - Rapture resource for the end times. Does this make Todd & Terry conspiracists? After all they are the ones who would have approved and posted all three articles.

Todd & Terry have the most visited Rapture site in the world. They obviously agreed enough with Donna to believe that these alarming reports needed to be reported.

I wonder, with great sadness, how many seeking Christians you have driven away by the "regulars" piling up on the outsiders. It truly happens more on this site than I would ever expect, given that we are just some of the VERY few on the same side in this decrepit world.

[Robert]

So tell me, exactly how is hanging out on this website fulfilling the Great Commission? Do you REALLY believe that unsaved people EVER come to visit this site other than to mock?

As for me, I trust in the Lord, I do not live in fear and I certainly do not take joy in what is about to happen to the world.

Indeed,just because I don't have the same world view as some of the "regulars" here doesn't mean that I am suddenly a conspiracist or less of a Christian that you.

Bottom line: Things are about to get really ugly. The noose is tightening. Burying your head in the sand doesn't change reality. We are not assigned to wrath, but many will be - AND SOON, REALLY SOON!!

As a matter of fact, yes they do visit this site. You do not know the numbers of people who come here to read the articles on the main site and the posts here on the forum. Many of the articles written here in these forums and on the main site reach out to those who need the Lord, as well as to teach and instruct believers. The Lord is NOT limited to the means with which to reach the lost, and if being on this forum reaches even one lost person, the value of that single soul makes it all worth the effort and time that Chris and several others have put into this place.

Now a question for you: tell em exactly how telling folks about the conspiracies and the "doom" coming will bring them to Christ? Because if the only reason they accept the Lord is to escape the Tribulation or to avoid hell, that is simply "fire insurance" salvation. Worldly sorrow is being sorry because of the consequences; godly sorrow is being sorry for having wronged the Lord and recognizing that you have sinned against Him.

[This]

As a matter of fact, yes they do visit this site. You do not know the numbers of people who come here to read the articles on the main site and the posts here on the forum. Many of the articles written here in these forums and on the main site reach out to those who need the Lord, as well as to teach and instruct believers. The Lord is NOT limited to the means with which to reach the lost, and if being on this forum reaches even one lost person, the value of that single soul makes it all worth the effort and time that Chris and several others have put into this place.

Now a question for you: tell em exactly how telling folks about the conspiracies and the "doom" coming will bring them to Christ? Because if the only reason they accept the Lord is to escape the Tribulation or to avoid hell, that is simply "fire insurance" salvation. Worldly sorrow is being sorry because of the consequences; godly sorrow is being sorry for having wronged the Lord and recognizing that you have sinned against Him.

And how many come here and see someone ganged up on by "regulars" like you, only to run away from the negativity, kicking and screaming. I see it happen here time and time again. As a matter of fact, I know that I am about to experience it now myself by daring to post something that may not sit quite right with you.

In terms of visiting for answers, I believe this happens, but by people who already have started to believe. I may be wrong, and I TRULY hope I am. If you can show me a post where someone wrote in and said they were saved strictly from coming to this site, I will apologize.

I don't care about losing face. I never have. Show me I am wrong and I will sincerely apologize.

In NO WAY am I saying this site is not EXCELLENT for learning, teaching and fellowship, but it is individual interaction that brings people to Christ, not a website, no matter how good!!

[This]

Actually, I am going to apologize early. I do believe that this site saves souls.

I guess I am just a bit sad about what I see on this site. Here is a pattern I see over and over again:

- Someone is excited about sharing an idea or a thought that DOES NOT contradict Scripture but is not the "popular" opinion

- Three or four people respond enthusiastically

- Then a Regular "STINGS" like a wasp, attracting other Regulars to STING.

This happens so often. I guess I was frustrated by this and I apologize for overreacting.

[YeuEmMaiMai]

Personally I beleive that the author of said articles likes the movie and has tried to adapt it for some odd reason.

This is a prime example of a "the Christ figure" type of film and I think that has part to do with her reasoning.

The plain truth is that there is only 1 way to get saved and using movie analagies to get the point accross won't work...

[Kris762]

Not that I ever paid much attention to conspiracy theory, but I certainly havent bought into them since they claimed that 9/11 was orchestrated by Bush.

I follow news events and certain signs of the times, then I reflect back on what I've read in the Scriptures to guage if theres a relation to prophecy, thats as far as I go. Stick to the Word of God and what it teaches, conspiracies are a dime a dozen and most are rubbish, and what purpose do they serve? It's like rumour mongering.

Regarding this thread, I have no doubt that certain organisations or societies exist and seek to influence worldly matters, but can they save my soul? Do they offer me Salvation? What these groups do at the end of the day have no repercussions for me in a Spiritual sense, I'm going home regardless of what unfolds.

[WKUHilltopper]

In some cases, salvation seems to be a slow process. In my case, it was. Some, praise God, can be immediate. Places like this site may not "immediately" lend itself to "instantaneous" salvation--but helps add to the building blocks of understanding. Much depends on the condition of the persons heart.

It is the Holy Spirit who converts the person--not because people "will it". People are only the "farmers" casting out the seeds. Providing the "information". Its God who harvests the effort. But the soil must be prepared to take the seed and yield the crop. Unless the soil has the right nutrients, preparation, the crop will fail.

I was convinced that God was real because of the scientific evidence and knowledge disclosed by the Bible before it was even discovered by man. And if this was known in the Scripture first, then Jesus was real too. But it took me awhile to get there.

Too me, I'm not sure that people who read this become "saved". Maybe they will and maybe they won't...but that's not up to us anyway. This site is only one of many of the vast "fields" to be tended. But maybe, just maybe, the site could add one bit of information, one crumb of insight that helps in the final decision, the tipping point in the final recognition of Truth.

Is this forum as effective as gospel tracks, preaching, one on one discussion, etc? I don't know. A person's heart must be soften to accept the message irrespective of the format. And since it is the Holy Spirit who converts, only He knows.

[Carl]

This: I started doing research on the National Debt. I gathered all the information I could find on the debt from 1789 to present; President's party, House's party, and Senate's party. Found out that the debt has increased from the beginning. Except for a couple of times that a paydown was attempted. I reasoned that if the debt increased no matter which party was in power then something else is the problem. Looked at the Fed. That led me to the Bank of England. Which led me to the Rothschilds. Etc, etc. I tried not to use Alex Jones. I tried to only use articles that had footnotes, or I could track the information to a site that did have footnotes.

I really think that it is real and the plans are real and they know what they are doing. Look at all the bills that have been passed through Congress since 9/11. Was all the stuff they put in it necessary? Look at the way that the airport security goes about its business. Does our airport security really think that it is preventing much? Naw, something is going on. Gross incompetance, Peter's Principle, gross negligence, or a grand plan.

So the question is what do we do with this knowledge? I saw stuff like this before I was saved and it drove me, in part, to salvation. People can talk about the fear factor because it is there. I receive newsletters and a number of them try to sell their product using fear of tomorrow. So even fear can be good or bad.

[Yehoshua]

In some cases, salvation seems to be a slow process. In my case, it was. Some, praise God, can be immediate. Places like this site may not "immediately" lend itself to "instantaneous" salvation--but helps add to the building blocks of understanding. Much depends on the condition of the persons heart.

It is the Holy Spirit who converts the person--not because people "will it". People are only the "farmers" casting out the seeds. Providing the "information". Its God who harvests the effort. But the soil must be prepared to take the seed and yield the crop. Unless the soil has the right nutrients, preparation, the crop will fail.

I was convinced that God was real because of the scientific evidence and knowledge disclosed by the Bible before it was even discovered by man. And if this was known in the Scripture first, then Jesus was real too. But it took me awhile to get there.

Too me, I'm not sure that people who read this become "saved". Maybe they will and maybe they won't...but that's not up to us anyway. This site is only one of many of the vast "fields" to be tended. But maybe, just maybe, the site could add one bit of information, one crumb of insight that helps in the final decision, the tipping point in the final recognition of Truth.

Is this forum as effective as gospel tracks, preaching, one on one discussion, etc? I don't know. A person's heart must be soften to accept the message irrespective of the format. And since it is the Holy Spirit who converts, only He knows.

Fantastic brother! Exactly on the target =D

Shalom!!

[dave-o]

Here's a few things I believe to be true about the conspiracy groups based on years of research. Take it for what it's worth.

They are NOT knowingly trying to take over the world on Satan's behalf. It is most likely that most of them don't even believe that there is a Satan. The bottom line is that since they are not for Christ they are by default anti-christ. And that means that to those whose eyes are open to the devices of the enemy it can certainly *appear* that these groups are knowingly working for Satan.

Some members may believe there is a God but (as far as I can tell) they are all pure humanist in their thinking.

There is a conspiracy of sorts between these various groups inasmuch as 1) some members of one group are sometimes a member of one of the other groups, 2) occasionally sit in on their meetings, 3) have some level of acquaintance/interaction with members of the other groups and 4) have close ties to other powerful and influential people of the world.

These groups are "Think Tanks". They are far thinkers trying to decide what to do now for the good of mankind many generations into the future. For some time now (again as far as I can tell) their main concern has been dealing with explosive population growth on a planet with dwindling natural resources. To that end, I DO *believe* that they are the driving force behind making abortion-on-demand and homosexuality socially acceptable practices. (I could be wrong.)

It has been suggested that some of the members are in a position to heavily influence (directly or indirectly) news content "spin", which movies and/or TV shows get produced and which books get published. This is *probably* true BUT the exact extent to which they might actually do so is unknown. Maybe a little, maybe a lot. Monetary gain is most likely #1 on their list of priorities and it's far more likely that they're just selling what people want.

In Romans 1:18-32 Paul tells us exactly what to expect when people high or low exclude God from their thinking and there can be no denying that we are watching it happen. I also don't think there can be any doubt that a majority of the so-called "movers and shakers" of this world have indeed excluded God from their thinking.

[Keeplookinup]

Seems to me if anyone with real power is up to no good, its not exactly going to be common knowledge. If they don't want the public to know, people are not going to find out, which is why conspiracy theory guesswork is so popular. Furthermore, if you actually understood the repercussions of genuine evil, such as the horrors perpetuated in secret by communist governments, for example, you probably wouldn't find all these things so exciting.

"shudder"....! I think many of us find it "fascinating" perhaps because it all seems like a sci-fi movie...it's sooo hard to imagine that it could be REAL. I agree Meg...the genuine evil and the horrors that are perpetrated in this world are beyond words. It grieves my heart deeply at what mankind does to one another; I can't even begin to know how much it grieves our Lord and Savior's heart. His love for us is not possible to measure! Thank you Jesus! Please come get us soon.

[JAyres]

I liked The Matrix, thought it was a good movie and all, but it's got one big huge logical problem. The machines used humans as batteries, making the Matrix an overly complicated mess that had to be rewritten once. If the machines used cows for batteries, the entire Matrix could've been one huge field of grass with no possibility for the non-sentient beings to rebel. Would've made for a really boring movie though.

[mattfivefour]

I liked The Matrix, thought it was a good movie and all, but it's got one big huge logical problem. The machines used humans as batteries, making the Matrix an overly complicated mess that had to be rewritten once. If the machines used cows for batteries, the entire Matrix could've been one huge field of grass with no possibility for the non-sentient beings to rebel. Would've made for a really boring movie though.