Microchiping included in Healthcare Bill ?

[WalterNZ]

Alert** May be alarmist , open to discernment, anyone else heard of this bill?

Microchiping included in Healthcare Bill ? | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

[YeuEmMaiMai]

yes the provision is there and it was discussed before this atrocity became law...

[mattfivefour]

Let's shed some light on this topic, please. Here is the article from the Ron Paul site:

Buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a “non-discussed” section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521— National Medical Device Registry, and which states its purpose as:

"The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— (A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and (B) is a class III device; or (ii) a class II device that is implantable."

In "real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.

If you read the actual wording of the proposed legislation as published in the second paragraph of that article, you will discover that everything in the third paragraph —that which Ron Paul has said— is either mistaken or an outright lie. The second paragraph says that the legislation is for the purpose of establishing "a national medical DEVICE registry" ... NOT a medical registry. The registry is to keep track of medical DEVICES such as pacemakers, internal pumps (such as for insulin) and other medical DEVICES, so that in the event of any problem with a device being discovered, every single person with that device can be contacted without any delay and immediately have the problem rectified. By the device ID mandated to be an RFID one, it means you can easily scan a patient without cutting them open to see if the device implanted in them is one of the bad batch or not.

Of course conspiracists like Mr. Paul and all the many, MANY others, would have you believe that this is a national MEDICAL registry which would "require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country." It suits their agenda ... and likely their own twisted belief systems. As you can see by carefully reading the wording of the draft bill, it is not a medical registry being proposed, it is a medical DEVICE registry. Quite a different kettle of fish.

You see, what people like Mr. Paul and others in political life (not to mention all those with something to "sell") count on is the fact that most people do not read with full comprehension. They view everything through their personal perceptual screens. In other words, their preconceived ideas color what in an article catches their attention. Certain words are catch words that focus attention to the exclusion of the rest. People do not read and think, they read and react. Usually incorrectly. This is why it is so dangerous to frequent conspiracy and other alarmist sites. They feed your preconceptions—your stereotypes, and raise alarm, which then colors the way in which you will interpret information in the future. And the damage is progressive. It is a lot like a snowball rolling down hill. The further it rolls, the bigger it gets and the faster it moves. This is why God told us to focus our thinking on good things, not bad. (Philippians 4:8) Focus on God and His promises and THAT is the snowball that will start rolling. All the other garbage will eventually melt away ... IF you stop feeding it.

[WalterNZ]

I thought that was the case... Thanks for clarification Matt!!

[YeuEmMaiMai]

What that bill allows for will ultimatele lead to a card tying into all of your medical records and any implantable device containing a RFID tag. In the end I do believe that the mark will serve a similar fuction with everything being controled by it

[mattfivefour]

Sorry, bro, but on what facts do you base your statement that "what that bill allows for will ultimately lead to a card tying into all of your medical records"? What the bill deals with and what you fear are two quite diverse things as far as I can tell.

[YeuEmMaiMai]

Sorry, bro, but on what facts do you base your statement that "what that bill allows for will ultimately lead to a card tying into all of your medical records"? What the bill deals with and what you fear are two quite diverse things as far as I can tell.

I believe you miss ultimate intent of this bill

1. they want a centralised database and they are going to get it. This is UNDISPUTED FACT
2. they want a means to keep track of each individual and their medical records and they need a way to tie it together. This again is UNDISPUTED FACT
2a. Right now the medical records databases are not all tied together but they will be
2b. when they are, you will have some form of identifier to associate you with your medical records. The most secure method will be some form of biometrics or other option that cannot be fraudlently used.

3. how exactly are you going to get healthcare if you do not have the mark of the best when it takes place?

Might want to pay more attention to what our government is really up to......This bill, if declared constitutional, will open the doors to many things

Did you miss the abortion mandate? Our President basically pulled that right out of his you know what and made it law.......

[FaithInChrist]

I believe you miss ultimate intent of this bill

1. they want a centralised database and they are going to get it. This is UNDISPUTED FACT
2. they want a means to keep track of each individual and their medical records and they need a way to tie it together. This again is UNDISPUTED FACT
2a. Right now the medical records databases are not all tied together but they will be
2b. when they are, you will have some form of identifier to associate you with your medical records. The most secure method will be some form of biometrics or other option that cannot be fraudlently used.

3. how exactly are you going to get healthcare if you do not have the mark of the best when it takes place?

Might want to pay more attention to what our government is really up to......This bill, if declared constitutional, will open the doors to many things

Did you miss the abortion mandate? Our President basically pulled that right out of his you know what and made it law.......

This is absolutely 100% true. I used to work at a doctors office. There are laws in that will go into place within the next 10 years or so (gradually) that require all doctor's offices to be 100% electronic, no paper files. They are going to be required to e-prescribe all medications to the pharmacy, no paper prescriptions. All computer systems are going to have to be accessible by hospitals and government agencies if you take a medicare or medicaid.

These requirements are gradually coming into effect and not complying will delay or negate payments from insurance companies.

It is touted as convenience, to better patient health, to cut down on illegal billing practices and to cut down on illegal prescription sales.

[WKUHilltopper]

This is absolutely 100% true. I used to work at a doctors office. There are laws in that will go into place within the next 10 years or so (gradually) that require all doctor's offices to be 100% electronic, no paper files. They are going to be required to e-prescribe all medications to the pharmacy, no paper prescriptions. All computer systems are going to have to be accessible by hospitals and government agencies if you take a medicare or medicaid.

These requirements are gradually coming into effect and not complying will delay or negate payments from insurance companies.

It is touted as convenience, to better patient health, to cut down on illegal billing practices and to cut down on illegal prescription sales.

I have no doubt that the Bill's use of the term "devices" will also include "required RFID imbedded chips in humans". And not necessarily just "pace makers", etc.

After all, the Obamacare law, 2,000 pages plus, also includes a section basically amounting to raising a "private army". So they'll do anything they want to do.