Results 1 to 5 of 5
Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By Sean Osborne
  • 1 Post By Littlejoe

Thread: Obama and Ahmadinejad

                  
   
    Bookmark and Share
  1. #1
    WalterNZ is offline Citizen

    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    604

    Default Obama and Ahmadinejad

    Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

    In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition.

    Obama and Ahmadinejad - Forbes.com

  2. #2
    Littlejoe is offline Citizen

    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Southern Lower Michigan
    Posts
    2,824

    Default Re: Obama and Ahmadinejad

    Quote Originally Posted by WalterNZ View Post
    Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

    In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition.

    Obama and Ahmadinejad - Forbes.com
    Glad you brought that up Walter..I lived in Chicago back in the 90's early 2000's,This man came out of no where,what i mean is if people who lived there know what i mean.Since 2007 i been doing some studies on the Islamic endtime prophecy to see what its suppose to be like ,conditions for their prophicies,what the world is suppose to be like,the signs.. Here from the hadith and teachings from almost 19,000 years ago says what the "PROMISED Warrior" Character Feature's are..... According to the teaching's of Islams prophecy, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet’s cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a “tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West.” Commanding “the strongest army on earth,” the new ruler in the West will carry “a clear sign” from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: “Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us.” a curious coincidence Obama’s first and second names–Barack Hussein–mean “the blessing of Hussein” in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means “he is with us,” the magic formula in Majlisi’s tradition.His look ,he will have a high forhead,with a prominent growth,or Mole on the left side of his nose.
    There will be many signs that will precede the return of the al-mahdi-twelth imam.This messenger"Warrior"Abu Saeed Al-Khudri has repoted that the Messenger of Allah said "He will be sent at a time of intense disputes and differences among people and earthquakes..." I remember watching Obama as he rose in the summer of 2008 his speeches in Egypt ,Germany as he proclaimed "Change,change is coming to The Middle east and world!!!That just sent chills thru me.Especially when everyone was saying ,he won't win!,he won't even last.I like many believers felt Obama Like Jerome Corsi said at that time,he has a way about him.Stern.I said to people he was going to Be President,i got the look alright..LOL.I was told ,yeah right !!This is why i feel he will be re-elected,i will go so far as i expect him to be sitting in The white house,leading the Islamic Caliphate...So yes im one who really thinks he is that,maybe more..Time will Tell however!!!

  3. #3
    mattfivefour's Avatar
    mattfivefour is offline Moderator

    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    MidWest
    Posts
    19,293

    Default Re: Obama and Ahmadinejad

    The hadith on which Amir Tahiri bases all of this supposed "geopolitical analysis" —specifically that it supposedly predicted that a tall, black man would assume the reins of government in the West and command the world's strongest army in the last days and thus help usher in the Mahdi— is, according to those who read Arabic, false. This hadith (or tradition) does not exist ... not in the Bahar al-Anvar collection in which Tahiri claims it exists ... nor anywhere else in ancient Islamic literature.

    The question, though, is not whether it is actually true but whether Iran's Shia mullahs believe it to be true ... or, perhaps more accurately, whether they have convinced a significant percentage of the population of Iran it is true.

    This alleged hadith first appeared in either late October or early November of 2008 (around the time of Obama's election, or shortly before) when a pro-Khomeini, pro-Ahmadinejad site in Iran published it with the claim that it was found in a massive (more than 130 volume) Shiite text from the 17th century. In the context of what was happening in Iran in 2008, it seems to me that this "discovered" text is just a piece of Shia propaganda for internal consumption in order to aid the rulers in convincing their populace to go along with their apocalyptic ideas.

    So let's not get our knickers in a knot. Obama is not the antichrist nor the mahdi.
    -------"You are not your own; you are bought with a price." —1 Corinthians 6:19b-20a

    ------ ------ ------

  4. #4
    Sean Osborne's Avatar
    Sean Osborne is offline Citizen

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    3,402

    Default Re: Obama and Ahmadinejad

    As with most of Islam, the Amir Taheri's "Obama and Al-Mahdi" yarn woven around the Bahar al-Anvar hadith is just plain bogus. The alleged Shi'a hadith does not exist. Back on Monday, 10 November 2008, Timothy R. Furnish, Ph.D. in Islamic history and former Arabic linguist with the US 101st Airborne Division, wrote the following on his website (MahdiWatch.org):

    Obama, Vice-Mahdi?
    Two weeks ago Iran watcher Amir Taheri published an article in which he alleged that there exists a Shi`i hadith stating that "a tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West...commanding the strongest army on Earth" and carrying a "clear sign" from the Third Imam, Husayn and that "Shi`is should have no doubt that he is with us" (B a h r a m e r a d: Obama and Ahmadinejad : By Amir Taheri 10.26.08).

    This hadith was said to be contained in the collection Bahar al-Anvar by Mollah Majlisi and date to the 17th c. CE. Taheri spun an entire web of geopolitical analysis around this point, claiming that "the Khomeinist establishment sees Obama's rise as another sign of the West's decline and the triumph of Islam."

    Problem is: it's not true. According to my contacts in Iran, including Professor Abolfazl Nurmuhammadpour at the Bright Future Institute--dedicated to teaching the world about the coming of the Mahdi, and the organization which sponsored the Mahdism Conference which I attended this past August in Tehran and Qom--and other ranking clerics at the Dar al-Hadith in Qom, this hadith is NOT authentic.
    Another myth about President-Elect Barack Obama bites the dust.
    mattfivefour likes this.

  5. #5
    Littlejoe is offline Citizen

    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Southern Lower Michigan
    Posts
    2,824

    Default Re: Obama and Ahmadinejad

    So let's not get our knickers in a knot. Obama is not the antichrist nor the mahdi.


    The article Op-ed says Could Obama be the Messenger of the mahdi?...Before the return,Allah would send the messenger ahead ,sort of the John the baptist of the Imam...I think Ahmadinejad is setting himself as the Mahdi..Lets ask Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei ,hes met with him in 2011 twice...Myself i don't believe in no mahdi..But Islamic endtime prophecy says he will come when their version of gog magog/Armageddon happens,the world would be bathed in blood..
    WalterNZ likes this.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •