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    The Christian Era in the Middle East Is Over
    By Giulio Meotti

    Israel has become the only safe haven for Christians in the Middle East, Ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, wrote in a recent op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.

    "As 800,000 Jews were once expelled from Arab countries, so are Christians being forced from lands they've inhabited for centuries", Ambassador Oren stated, comparing the expulsion of Jews after the establishment of the state of Israel with the Arab countries' current treatment of their Christian minorities.

    The numbers are telling. Today there is only one Middle Eastern country where the number of Christians has grown: Israel. As documented in the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics, the Christian community that numbered 34,000 people in 1949 is now 163,000-strong, and will reach 187,000 in 2020.

    In the rest of the Middle East, the drive for Islamic purity is going to banish all traces of pre-Islamic pasts. When the Islamists will have prevailed, the Middle East will be completely green, the colour of Islam.

    Therefore, it is time for Christians to recognize Israel's survival as critical and vital also for them. Instead, Arab Christians chose to react to Ambassador Oren by embracing Islam and demonizing the Jews.

    "As Christian leaders in Palestine, we were appalled by the baseless allegations you published in the Wall Street Journal", says one letter signed by many Arab Christian personalities published in the Palestinian media outlets. "Your attempt to blame the difficult reality that Palestinian Christians face on Palestinian Muslims is a shameful manipulation of the facts intended to mask the damage that Israel has done to our community. The Israeli occupation is the primary reason why so many members of the oldest Christian communities in the world have left the holy land, Palestine. Our reality is one of occupation, oppression and loss".

    The letter is signed by Palestinian ministries, activists, priests and mayors and members of the PLO.

    Arab Christianity is near its extinction everywhere. "Christianity in Iraq could be eradicated in our lifetime, partially as a result of the US troop withdrawal", declared Leonard Leo, chairman of the US Commission on International Religious Freedom.

    In Egypt, 100,000 Christians already have left the country - after Hosni Mubarak's fall last year. The Egyptian Union of Human Rights is denouncing this "mass exodus".

    Even more dramatic is the collapse of Christian Arab society following Israel's handing over of large parts of Judea and Samaria to the Palestinian Authority. Christians have suffered the most from the mafia-style rule of Yasser Arafat's kleptocracy.

    Christian sites and cemeteries were desecrated by Muslims. Slogans like "Islam will win" and "First the Saturday people, then the Sunday People" have been painted on walls, and PLO flags were draped over Jesus crosses.

    Ramallah was 90% Christian before the 1948 War of Independence and Bethlehem was 80% Christian. Today Ramallah is a large Islamic city and Bethlehem's Christians are near extinction.

    Given their common status as minorities within an overwhelmingly Islamic region, you might expect Christian Arabs to find common cause with Jews and Israel. But the traditional hatred of Eastern Christianity for Judaism, combined with the futile hopes for assimilation within the Arab world, have closed off that option.

    As the letter clearly shows, Arab Christians are lost to Islam. This unavoidable historical process has been explained by the pioneer Bat Ye'or, the most important historian of the "dhimmitude".

    Many Palestinian terrorists came from the Christian community. George Habash, who has been dubbed "the godfather of Middle East terrorism", was a Greek Orthodox Christian who sang in his church choir as a boy back in the town of Lydda. His background was almost identical to that of his best friend, Wadia Haddad, the No. 2 in the PFLP and the operational genius and passionate proponent of the group's terrorist acts.

    For years after Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, the public face of that nation's diplomacy was deputy prime minister Tariq Aziz, who was born with the distinctly Christian name of Michael Yuhanna.

    British author, William Dalrymple, suggests that by the 1990s, five out of Hafiz al Asad's seven closest advisors were Christian. Today, the suave symbol of the Palestinian cause in the West is a Christian, Hanan Ashrawi, who signed the letter against Oren.

    Coptic Christians were prominent in the pioneering nationalist anti-Israel Wafd Party of Egypt in the 1920s. From the 1930s, Arab Christians were deeply influenced by the fascist and ultra-nationalist models they could see in Europe, and they formed their own parties in this mold.

    One of the first was the Syrian Social Nationalist Party, founded by the Christian Antun Saadeh, who preached the establishment of a Great Syrian empire covering not just modern-day Syria but also Judea, Samaria, Lebanon, Cyprus, and other stretches of the Near East.

    In 1940, another Christian thinker launched what would be a still more influential variety of pan-Arabism, namely the Movement for Arab Renaissance (Ba'th). The key founder was Michel Aflaq, who had been educated at the Sorbonne.

    The most prominent Palestinian intellectual in the world was a Christian, Edward Said (it was in Nazareth, in fact, that Said's mother was born; his grandfather founded the city's first Baptist church).

    The use of the term "nakba" for the Israeli War of Independence was an innovation of Constantin Zureiq, the intellectual father of Arab nationalism. George

    Antonious' book "The Arab Awakening" is one of the earliest intellectual expressions of Palestinian Arab resentment about Zionism. Antonious was far from alone as a Christian Arab who saw his future with the aspirations of the Muslim majority in the Arab world.

    You also have the case of Azmi Bishara, the Arab MK who betrayed the State of Israel, who comes from a middle-class Christian family from Nazareth.

    Meanwhile, in Lebanon, the Christian movements of General Michel Aoun and Sleiman Frangieh are allied with Hizbullah.

    Christians have also been part of municipal councils headed by Hamas. Now that the Nasserite mixture of socialism and secularism is outclassed by Islamist fury, Christians are vanishing from their cradle.

    Arab Christians are paying the anti-Israel appeasing choice: they feed the Islamic crocodile hoping it will eat them last. Nonetheless, the Islamic tiger is devouring the Christian lamb.

    Indeed, the Christian era in the Middle East is coming to an end. After Arab nationalism failed to eliminate Israel, Arab Christianity and the Vatican are now building a Palestinian identity hostile to Israel and the Jews.

    The Christian criminalization of Zionism, which Arab Churches made a basic condition for "Muslim-Christian rapprochement", grants the elimination of the Jewish State priority over defending the rights of their own beleaguered communities.

    As was the case of the European Christians in World War II, Arab Christianity is now pursuing a joint cause with evil forces to buy temporary security. They will be responsable for their own destruction. When in 1991, the first Iraqi Scuds hit the Tel Aviv area, Palestinians in Judea and Samaria and Gaza, in defiance of the curfew, mounted rooftops and joyfully chanted: "Saddam, Saddam, ya habib, oodroob oodroob Tel Abib" ("Saddam, Saddam, you darling, hit Tel Aviv over and over again").

    A few rocket attacks later, a paraphrased version of that ditty spread around: "Saddam, Saddam, our boss, go ahead and hit the Cross".

    Arab Christians have been Islamicized. Supported by the Vatican and the Orthodox Churches, they choose the war against the Jews. They will be paid back with their own extinction.
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    And everything continues to fall into place.
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    The Christian Era in the Middle East Is Over

    The Christian Era in the Middle East Is Over
    By Giulio Meotti

    Israel has become the only safe haven for Christians in the Middle East, Ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, wrote in a recent op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.

    "As 800,000 Jews were once expelled from Arab countries, so are Christians being forced from lands they've inhabited for centuries", Ambassador Oren stated, comparing the expulsion of Jews after the establishment of the state of Israel with the Arab countries' current treatment of their Christian minorities.

    The numbers are telling. Today there is only one Middle Eastern country where the number of Christians has grown: Israel. As documented in the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics, the Christian community that numbered 34,000 people in 1949 is now 163,000-strong, and will reach 187,000 in 2020.

    In the rest of the Middle East, the drive for Islamic purity is going to banish all traces of pre-Islamic pasts. When the Islamists will have prevailed, the Middle East will be completely green, the colour of Islam.

    Therefore, it is time for Christians to recognize Israel's survival as critical and vital also for them. Instead, Arab Christians chose to react to Ambassador Oren by embracing Islam and demonizing the Jews.

    "As Christian leaders in Palestine, we were appalled by the baseless allegations you published in the Wall Street Journal", says one letter signed by many Arab Christian personalities published in the Palestinian media outlets. "Your attempt to blame the difficult reality that Palestinian Christians face on Palestinian Muslims is a shameful manipulation of the facts intended to mask the damage that Israel has done to our community. The Israeli occupation is the primary reason why so many members of the oldest Christian communities in the world have left the holy land, Palestine. Our reality is one of occupation, oppression and loss".

    The letter is signed by Palestinian ministries, activists, priests and mayors and members of the PLO.

    Arab Christianity is near its extinction everywhere. "Christianity in Iraq could be eradicated in our lifetime, partially as a result of the US troop withdrawal", declared Leonard Leo, chairman of the US Commission on International Religious Freedom.

    In Egypt, 100,000 Christians already have left the country - after Hosni Mubarak's fall last year. The Egyptian Union of Human Rights is denouncing this "mass exodus".

    Even more dramatic is the collapse of Christian Arab society following Israel's handing over of large parts of Judea and Samaria to the Palestinian Authority. Christians have suffered the most from the mafia-style rule of Yasser Arafat's kleptocracy.

    Christian sites and cemeteries were desecrated by Muslims. Slogans like "Islam will win" and "First the Saturday people, then the Sunday People" have been painted on walls, and PLO flags were draped over Jesus crosses.

    Ramallah was 90% Christian before the 1948 War of Independence and Bethlehem was 80% Christian. Today Ramallah is a large Islamic city and Bethlehem's Christians are near extinction.

    Given their common status as minorities within an overwhelmingly Islamic region, you might expect Christian Arabs to find common cause with Jews and Israel. But the traditional hatred of Eastern Christianity for Judaism, combined with the futile hopes for assimilation within the Arab world, have closed off that option.

    As the letter clearly shows, Arab Christians are lost to Islam. This unavoidable historical process has been explained by the pioneer Bat Ye'or, the most important historian of the "dhimmitude".

    Many Palestinian terrorists came from the Christian community. George Habash, who has been dubbed "the godfather of Middle East terrorism", was a Greek Orthodox Christian who sang in his church choir as a boy back in the town of Lydda. His background was almost identical to that of his best friend, Wadia Haddad, the No. 2 in the PFLP and the operational genius and passionate proponent of the group's terrorist acts.

    For years after Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, the public face of that nation's diplomacy was deputy prime minister Tariq Aziz, who was born with the distinctly Christian name of Michael Yuhanna.

    British author, William Dalrymple, suggests that by the 1990s, five out of Hafiz al Asad's seven closest advisors were Christian. Today, the suave symbol of the Palestinian cause in the West is a Christian, Hanan Ashrawi, who signed the letter against Oren.

    Coptic Christians were prominent in the pioneering nationalist anti-Israel Wafd Party of Egypt in the 1920s. From the 1930s, Arab Christians were deeply influenced by the fascist and ultra-nationalist models they could see in Europe, and they formed their own parties in this mold.

    One of the first was the Syrian Social Nationalist Party, founded by the Christian Antun Saadeh, who preached the establishment of a Great Syrian empire covering not just modern-day Syria but also Judea, Samaria, Lebanon, Cyprus, and other stretches of the Near East.

    In 1940, another Christian thinker launched what would be a still more influential variety of pan-Arabism, namely the Movement for Arab Renaissance (Ba'th). The key founder was Michel Aflaq, who had been educated at the Sorbonne.

    The most prominent Palestinian intellectual in the world was a Christian, Edward Said (it was in Nazareth, in fact, that Said's mother was born; his grandfather founded the city's first Baptist church).

    The use of the term "nakba" for the Israeli War of Independence was an innovation of Constantin Zureiq, the intellectual father of Arab nationalism. George

    Antonious' book "The Arab Awakening" is one of the earliest intellectual expressions of Palestinian Arab resentment about Zionism. Antonious was far from alone as a Christian Arab who saw his future with the aspirations of the Muslim majority in the Arab world.

    You also have the case of Azmi Bishara, the Arab MK who betrayed the State of Israel, who comes from a middle-class Christian family from Nazareth.

    Meanwhile, in Lebanon, the Christian movements of General Michel Aoun and Sleiman Frangieh are allied with Hizbullah.

    Christians have also been part of municipal councils headed by Hamas. Now that the Nasserite mixture of socialism and secularism is outclassed by Islamist fury, Christians are vanishing from their cradle.

    Arab Christians are paying the anti-Israel appeasing choice: they feed the Islamic crocodile hoping it will eat them last. Nonetheless, the Islamic tiger is devouring the Christian lamb.

    Indeed, the Christian era in the Middle East is coming to an end. After Arab nationalism failed to eliminate Israel, Arab Christianity and the Vatican are now building a Palestinian identity hostile to Israel and the Jews.

    The Christian criminalization of Zionism, which Arab Churches made a basic condition for "Muslim-Christian rapprochement", grants the elimination of the Jewish State priority over defending the rights of their own beleaguered communities.

    As was the case of the European Christians in World War II, Arab Christianity is now pursuing a joint cause with evil forces to buy temporary security. They will be responsable for their own destruction. When in 1991, the first Iraqi Scuds hit the Tel Aviv area, Palestinians in Judea and Samaria and Gaza, in defiance of the curfew, mounted rooftops and joyfully chanted: "Saddam, Saddam, ya habib, oodroob oodroob Tel Abib" ("Saddam, Saddam, you darling, hit Tel Aviv over and over again").

    A few rocket attacks later, a paraphrased version of that ditty spread around: "Saddam, Saddam, our boss, go ahead and hit the Cross".

    Arab Christians have been Islamicized. Supported by the Vatican and the Orthodox Churches, they choose the war against the Jews. They will be paid back with their own extinction.
    And where do these Arab Catholics migrate to? Western Politicans welcome the anti-Israelites with open arms. Its the Vatican's plan. Flood the western remaining Protestant nations with Roman Catholics. Every nation south of the Rio Grande is Roman Catholic so by immigration the USA and Canada will one day be under direct Vatican control. North and South America totally dominated by Rome.

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    This is something that we've been watching for a while.

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    "Forgive them, Father, they know not what they do"... Regardless of their errors and mistakes, the vanishing of Christianity anywhere for any reason is a deep tragedy. A very deep tragedy.
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    And everything continues to fall into place.
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    "Forgive them, Father, they know not what they do"... Regardless of their errors and mistakes, the vanishing of Christianity anywhere for any reason is a deep tragedy. A very deep tragedy.
    Yes it is; when Christianity disappears from anywhere, we would be very wise to take heed.

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    People use the term Christian as a label. Most of them that say they are a Christian haven't got a clue what it means.

    I can say this because I come from a Southern European family who have sat under Islam and there are many who simply identify themselves as Christians because they are not Muslims. Yet people from my parents old country (especially many of the new immgrants to Australia from my parents country) go to Church only at Easter and Christmas, light a candle and remain ignorant of what it means to be a Christian. When I first came to Christ I went around asking various people at Church if they knew why Jesus Christ had to die? You would be surprised how many were not even sure who Jesus Christ was and why it was important to know him as all.

    Christian for many is a label only. My family new little to nothing about Jesus Christ and why he was born or why he died until my grandfather and I both came to Christ through evangelism done by Protestants here in Australia.

    I know many Coptic & Greek Orthodox and they too are the same as were my family, cluless. They go to Church and they say we are Christians but not many of them know how to receive salvation or that they even can receive salvation as they are taught to do good works and follow man made traditions only.

    So these Arab Christians? How many of them truly know what Christ means when they say I'm a Christian. Even the demons know of Christ but they aren't saved either.

    There are Saved Christians amongst those who live in countries that only have Catholic, Eastern Orthodox or Islam as the main religions. Unfortunately the truth be known there are very few who call themselves Christian who are truly Saved Believers in Christ.

    This is why many who come to Christ (Born Again) here in Australia who came from traditional churches like Catholic or Eastern Orthodoxy like me (and most of my family) end up in Protestant Churches or other good Bible teaching churches or fellowships. We hunger to hear the truth which is only found in the Word of God rather than each week get a lecture on man made traditions and humanistic sermons (then there are those who have gone new age and include other non-Christian religious teachings as well in their sermons). The kind of sermons that are mainly given in Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches of today. Where is the teaching of repentance & salvation?? If there are any Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches that do teach it I haven't been in any here locally that do and I haven't heard of any that do via the grapevine.

    So just because some one claims to be a Christian doesn't mean they actually are and they haven't got a clue they are not. God knows who are His sheep. There are many tares amongst the wheat today. Their fate is to be separated out and burned when the harvest has been completed. Until then the wonder around thinking they are the wheat and pretending to have God's stamp of approval on all they do and say. Delluded and going to be very surprised when the harvest is brought in by the Lord.



    So this is why I am not surprised that many Christian Arabs stand with Islam rather than Israel.

    Are there Christian Arabs that stand for Israel. We have a mixed evangelical Arabic Christian community nearby that do stand for Israel and are truly brothers and sisters in Christ. One of their pastors has a jihad against him for all the Muslims that have come to Christ because of his teaching. The man has to keep moving house because of this danger. I've heard him speak a few times . The Arabic people in this Church are of mixed backgrounds yet they show great love to each other as they stand for Christ. Most are from Christian backgrounds but they have a few Muslims who have come to Christ as well. Most of those who come to Christ from Islam have to move and get away from family and friends so they are not hunted down and killed so many don't stay in the area or the Church. Their number is small.

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    No it's not. There's nothing in Bible prophecy which declares this is or will ever be the fact.

    Yes, the end of the world as we currently know it will come to pass, but the extinction of Christian faith ANYWHERE on this planet earth is something that will never, ever occur - not now, not ever.

    Remember the former things of old,
    For I am God, and n there is no other;
    I am God, and there is none like Me,
    Declaring the end from the beginning,
    And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
    Saying, 'My counsel shall stand,
    And I will do all My pleasure,' Calling a bird of prey q from the east,
    The man r who executes My counsel, from a far country.
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    I will also bring it to pass.
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    Happy Easter to you all!

    Hannah beat me to it. The term "Christian" is used very liberally in this article.

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    No it's not. There's nothing in Bible prophecy which declares this is or will ever be the fact.

    Yes, the end of the world as we currently know it will come to pass, but the extinction of Christian faith ANYWHERE on this planet earth is something that will never, ever occur - not now, not ever.
    Yep,so true..Revelation 11 says about the 2 Christian witnesses...Revelation 11:3-7
    New King James Version (NKJV)

    3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”

    4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God[a] of the earth. 5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. 6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.

    And don't forget this.. in Revelation 14:6
    The Messages of the Three Angels

    6 Then I saw another angel kflying directly overhead, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to lthose who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people.

    Now,why Satan has his two stooges AC/False prophet ,God will have his Army preaching.........And Jesus wins !!!!
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