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    -(Jeremiah 30:20-24) What prince was Jeremiah talking about that shall be one of them (Jews). That he would draw near to him for who would dare approach the Lord? During this time the Israelites will be his people and he will be their God. Then the verse talks about wrath until G-d has accomplished the intentions of his mind. Also that we would understand this in latter days. The prince in my Bible is not capitalized and seems to be saying that his being around will bring about wrath and end times. Am I misunderstanding who this prince is or is this prince the prince of evil which is one of the Jewish people? It really confuses me who this prince is. Thanks for your help.

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    My Bible (version HCSB) says "Jacob's leader" rather than "prince" and the Study notes at the bottom indicate that this is a messianic prophecy.

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    KB, dcbrott is correct. This passage is Messianic.

    The Jewish Targum interprets this passage as saying: ""their King shall be anointed from them, and their Messiah shall be revealed from the midst of them.'' And so they apply this passage to Messiah. And it is thus referenced in the Talmud.

    The great Bible expositor Albert Barnes says the way to translate this passage in order to properly understand it is this way: "And his glorious one shall spring from himself, and his ruler shall go forth from his midst ... who is this that hath pledged his heart, i. e., hath staked his life, to dealt near unto Me?" I.e., "Messiah shall be revealed to them out of their own midst." He can draw near unto God without fear of death, because being in the form of God, and Himself God, He can claim equality with God Philippians 2:6."
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattfivefour View Post
    KB, dcbrott is correct. This passage is Messianic.

    The Jewish Targum interprets this passage as saying: ""their King shall be anointed from them, and their Messiah shall be revealed from the midst of them.'' And so they apply this passage to Messiah. And it is thus referenced in the Talmud.

    The great Bible expositor Albert Barnes says the way to translate this passage in order to properly understand it is this way: "And his glorious one shall spring from himself, and his ruler shall go forth from his midst ... who is this that hath pledged his heart, i. e., hath staked his life, to dealt near unto Me?" I.e., "Messiah shall be revealed to them out of their own midst." He can draw near unto God without fear of death, because being in the form of God, and Himself God, He can claim equality with God Philippians 2:6."

    Thanks for that. I read it over and over, as my Bible used the term prince, and I could not figure out who they were talking about. The study Bible I'm using didn't mention it in the footnotes which I found odd. I believed it was probably Messianic but they way the whole thing was proposed it made it sound as if this "prince" would come from the Jewish people rise to face G-d and then wrath would come. This had me stuck on an ugly mean prince that brought about this wrath.

    I appreciate the commentary from the Bible scholar on the topic. God Bless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KissimmeeBeliever View Post
    -(Jeremiah 30:20-24) What prince was Jeremiah talking about that shall be one of them (Jews). That he would draw near to him for who would dare approach the Lord? During this time the Israelites will be his people and he will be their God. Then the verse talks about wrath until G-d has accomplished the intentions of his mind. Also that we would understand this in latter days. The prince in my Bible is not capitalized and seems to be saying that his being around will bring about wrath and end times. Am I misunderstanding who this prince is or is this prince the prince of evil which is one of the Jewish people? It really confuses me who this prince is. Thanks for your help.

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