Hybrids

[Chris]

Hybrids

Hybrids
By Ronald Graham

"And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." Genesis 6:5. Humanity is moving through a period of increasingly deteriorating moral behavior. Today wickedness among earth's inhabitants has grown to a fever pitch. When we study our Bibles what becomes evident is the fact that between the antediluvian world, known as the days of Noah, and our present world there is a shocking similarity unfolding before us.

The news of late has been replete with unimaginable stories of brutality. Most people are mystified, even horrified, at the extremity and the frequency of the cold hearted and brutal acts of senseless aggression, perpetrated mostly on the aged, in various sectors around America. What is it that we are witnessing? This seemingly new form of insanity invading America is actuality a worldwide phenomenon, and it's burgeoning.

A new breed of criminal has emerged on the scene – younger, stronger, completely lacking remorse. Oh, and cold hearted would be a gross understatement. Nothing witnessed by generations upon generations can prepare humanity for this emerging wickedness. They are many, their numbers are growing, and they all seem to have one thing in common, they lack any semblance of a human soul. Their purpose seems to be that of mayhem, confusion, and to inflict as much pain as possible, even to the point of death of the victim. They're being manipulated to perform like robots, and to attack like well trained attack dogs. Their trainer, who we should all recognize as a manipulator, yes, he's Satan and he has only wickedness on his mind.

Who are they? Where have they come from? Are these marauding bands of seemingly soulless bodies even human? Has there been some tampering going on with the DNA of a segment of earthlings creating beings void of human emotion? What would need to be done to a person to negate the traits that provide us with feeling love, kindness, and even remorse? Is it possible to change the genome through DNA manipulation to void a person's soul? The manipulation of human and animal DNA being performed in medical labs today is astounding. Most of society today hasn't a clue about what's being created in these labs. Genetic engineering is in well advanced stages in what can now be seen as man taking over for God; man has now become the manipulator/creator of new forms of life. "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." Daniel 12:4. Can there be any doubt in the minds of those who take God's word seriously that knowledge has increased exponentially and that we are now at the end?

On the horizon are DNA microchips able to analyze more than a thousand traits at once, those linked not just to a child's health but to enhancements – genes that influence height, intelligence, hair, skin and eye colour and athletic ability. Source – The Globe and Mail

I am getting to a point here with all these questions. I believe the Bible has the answer. We're informed, by Jesus Christ Himself, in Matthew 24 that there would be some distinguishing factors associated with the last days on planet earth that would set those particular days significantly apart from all other periods of time in human history, save one. Jesus tells us what time period in man's past best fits as a comparison of what will be witnessed in the last days just prior to His return. He was enlightening us while attempting to elevate our sense of perception at the same time. Jesus is telling us what's coming and He's not being elusive. Jesus' warning had to allude to something completely different than what humanity would consider normal.

"But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark" Matthew 24:37-38. Obviously those of Noah's day were eating and drinking to sustain themselves, although we're not told what they were eating and drinking. Some in-depth study I've done shows a corruption even in their diet. But my question here is – why would Jesus speak of marriage or giving in marriage during those days? To the casual reader marrying and giving in marriage is seen here as simply going about business as usual, they see nothing out of the ordinary about this verse. But to the studied reader what Jesus is alluding to is that just prior to His return to earth the world will be experiencing an all consuming evil corruption of the genes of humans through the cohabitation of fallen angels and human women just like the people of Noah's day were, which was the reason God destroyed the antediluvians with a worldwide flood. Think about it this way, who in their right mind will be thinking about their white wedding dress or their black tuxedo at a time when the world will be crumbling around them? The world, just prior to His return, will be filled with the violence, wickedness, and mayhem that Noah witnessed in his day. Jesus lays out precisely for His disciples the full picture of those last days. Jesus wasn't referring to normal marriage plans, but to very abnormal and abominable copulations between two distinct groups of beings. If we misinterpret the verses in Genesis 6 most of the rest of the Bible will never make sense.

Keep in mind that Jesus was referring to similarities between the antediluvian era and the last days before His return. Remember, the reason God (Jesus) sent the deluge was because of all the abominable unions (marriages) between fallen angels and human women, and the progeny these unions brought forth. Evil was spread over the antediluvian world exactly the way it's overtaking ours today. Jesus referred to marriage in those days before the flood because that's exactly what we read in the Genesis 6 account. "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose" Genesis 6:2 (emphases mine). Jesus isn't being coy; He's laying out the future. One that involves the worst possible scenario, the re-incursion of fallen angels into our space/time continuum for one purpose, the corruption/destruction of the human race – just as they did in the days of Noah.

"And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men:" Daniel 2:43. Daniel is revealing a message given in a dream to king Nebuchadnezzar by God. But we see something very strange in this verse. "...they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men". Again, for the casual reader there is nothing out of the ordinary in this verse, but for those of us who study prophecy with a desire to fully understand what God has in store for His creation there's something in that verse that should give us reason to pause and delve deeper. Who are "they"? Whoever "they" are they're mingling themselves with the seed (offspring) of men (daughters). This is a prophecy of the last days. There was a corruption of the genome in Noah's day perpetrated by fallen angels. We're told by God Himself that there will be a resurgence of this same corruption in the days just prior to Christ's return. Here in Daniel chapter 2 we're given confirmation that in the last days "they", fallen angels, will again procreate with human women to produce offspring (hybrids/Nephilim). The question is – are these hybrids already dwelling among us?

The birth pangs that Jesus refers to in His "Olivet Discourse" lesson are upon us – only the foolish will deny it. "…all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet." Matthew 24:6b. Jesus is about to call His disciple's attention to numerous birth pangs which will begin just a few years before His return. It is significant that the verse above mentions that all these things must come to pass. Everything Jesus lays out will happen – some of them are happening now. Jesus continues describing just what these things entail. Although Jesus is speaking to the Nation of Israel, of those folks who will still be alive at the end of the "Great Tribulation" just prior to His return, I believe the birth pangs He speaks about are a warning sign for all who will believe and trust Him. In the next verse you will see why I believe the birth pangs have begun.

"And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." Matthew 24:12. If I were to restate his verse so that the meaning would be even clearer than how it's written above, I would state it thusly: "When lawlessness thrives and is coupled with extreme wickedness, and as this scenario becomes more and more pervasive on the world scene, then what humanity has enjoyed in the past in regards to kindness, affection, benevolence, charity, and brotherly love will be nonexistent. Then the new breed of human (the hybrid) filled with hate, malice, wickedness, and cruelty takes over" (please understand that these are my words, I'm not attempting to put my words in the Bible – only to provide a more clear understanding). If we look into the original Greek words my explanation above would be pretty close to what Jesus was telling His disciples. The period of time Jesus refers to will be extremely frightening, and there is every indication that that period of time has arrived.

The closer we get to the time of Christ's return the more improbable will be the sights that we see and even sounds that we hear. Improbable in that they will consist of what we've always been taught as being that of the realm of myth (supernatural). My wife and I heard a sound the other day that was completely abnormal. It was a noise that seemed to come out of nowhere and grew louder and louder, similar to an approaching train. We had walked down the rural road we live on to our mailbox, about an eighth of a mile. As we were just about to the mailbox, the sound started. There was a slight breeze but not really enough of a wind that would create a loud howling noise. No planes in the air above us, and no approaching automobiles on the main road. We were perplexed to say the least. What was it? I have no idea, it simply stopped. But the dimension of the malevolent supernatural is invading our world and they are becoming more and more brazen with their antics, allowing many people to see things they don't want to see, or hear things no human can explain.

UFO's are reported every ten minutes somewhere on planet earth. That's a lot of sightings by many people, people from every walk of life. The beings that operate these craft are, at times, allowing themselves to be seen, and for the most part they are described as creatures with no resemblance to human beings. The investigative data that I've studied points to these beings as inter-dimensional not extraterrestrial. They're not traveling from distant galaxies to interact benevolently with earthlings. They are appearing and disappearing as though popping in and out of other dimensions. Why are they coming? I believe it is to create an atmosphere of fear and confusion. The beings that traverse dimensions can be benevolent or malevolent and we should be keenly aware of the current incursion by many malevolent beings in these last days. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." Matthew 24:37.

I believe Satan's goal is to build an army that he can fully control, thus command to fight at the last war which the Bible refers to as Armageddon. He's not just content with readying this horde for battle with the Lord, but while the Lord tarries, Satan will be focused on inflicting a world of hurt on humanity in ways we would never have conceived, all to create an atmosphere of fear and confusion. He's done it before, and he's prophesied to do it again in the last days. The stories of these marauding bands of soulless misfits exploding on the scene today are from various news releases I've read over the past few months. I'm sure most of you have been privy to these same articles but perhaps had not connected the dots.

I mentioned birth pangs earlier and I was alluding to a gradual but burgeoning set of conditions. As the birth pangs Jesus speaks of run the gamut from minute to extreme, the church can be seen at the beginning of those birth pangs. But as they become more and more severe, without warning, in the twinkling of an eye, the church disappears and the only people remaining to experience all the mayhem and misery created by these fallen angels and their soulless hybrids are the Christ rejecters. If you've never said yes to Jesus Christ, and you remain in that state of mind, then those extremely harsh birth pangs are going to be yours to experience.

I've done my own research and am convinced humanity is in its last stage. I would hope that everyone who reads this commentary will be motivated to explore the plethora of research data on the subject of a post-human world, the world of the genetically modified human. God will not allow this corruption of His creation to go much further. As I've stated, the research has progressed to the stage that scientists are convinced that it's time to alter the genome of humans. We are in the last days, and Jesus is on His way.

God bless you all,

Ron Graham
twotug@embarqmail.com
All scripture is from the KJV and God breathed
Ministry address – 96 County Road 5480 Salem, MO 65560

[mattfivefour]

Satan does not need to create hybrids to have an army he can control. He already controls the majority of the world without any genetic engineering.

"I've done my own research and am convinced humanity is in its last stage." That's NOT what the Bible says. It lays out a future of 1,000 years of humanity AFTER the end of the Great Trib.

Sorry. I think Ron has tipped over the edge. Or maybe he just had a bad day.

[KissimmeeBeliever]

I remember I worked as a tech at a behavioral center in Pensacola, Florida which was an inpatient unit. It had a children and adolescent unit with patients that came in and out of the facility. I remember someone asking me to describe the children in the place, this was in the late 90s, and I said it seems like many of them are soul-less. As I said it I caught myself and said that doesn't sound right we're all born with a soul and the person agreed that was a bad analogy. But when I left I remember thinking to myself that it's the closest analogy. They cared not about others, were completely self-driven, never seemed to learn that there is a right way and wrong way, and I've never been cursed out like I was by a 6 year old one day on the unit. This is when I really started becoming afraid for our society. During anger fits or similar actions in our lives we would have a moment of awareness that what I'm doing is not right yet these children and adolescents seem to have nothing like that. It was a self-driven, ego driven, feel no remorse type of behavior that I found horrifying in little people. It's as if there was something VERY hollow within them. I mean 5-6-7 is when we all learned right from wrong but there was no right for them, not even engrained. Very scary. I pray for them all!

[readyforhome]

So this wasn't about hybrid cars then? Sorry, just trying to lighten the mood a little. Hey as far as the kids I have personally seen and been subjected to much of the same at work. I work as a pharmacy technician in a retail environment and I simply cannot believe sometimes how children talk to their parents and vice versa. Though to be fair all of this WAS written in the book Revelation. My mom would have spanked me in the middle of the store, no questions asked. This was of course when a person could have gotten away with disciplining their own children without the fear of the thought police coming to take them away, "For their own good."

[Petezzzz]

My wife and I heard a sound the other day that was completely abnormal. It was a noise that seemed to come out of nowhere and grew louder and louder, similar to an approaching train. We had walked down the rural road we live on to our mailbox, about an eighth of a mile. As we were just about to the mailbox, the sound started. There was a slight breeze but not really enough of a wind that would create a loud howling noise. No planes in the air above us, and no approaching automobiles on the main road. We were perplexed to say the least. What was it? I have no idea, it simply stopped.

Man, that is the weirdest thing. Yesterday getting off the train I heard this same exact thing behind me. My train had long gone ahead of me so it wasn't that. It was this weird, loud, growling noise coming from behind me by a few hundred yards over the lake. It seemed to come out of just the air. This is the second time I heard it. It got louder then quieter and then it just stopped. I can only compare it to one of those machines that tear up the old asphalt before repaving. That dinosaur looking thing. But there was no such activity in the area.

Oh and before getting on the train, waiting for it, I saw this really bright light on the horizon, this was around 7 PM and the stars were out. It looked like Saturn from far away and it didn't move. I even called my wife at home to check it out with binoculars but it couldn't be seen from there.

Very strange things happening indeed. Keep on your toes people!

<Edit to add link> Here it is, this is exactly what I heard:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ng-noise-heard

[Kris762]

Interesting, demons behind the wheel of UFO's.

[Sean Osborne]

Bill Salus' Prophecy Depot: Angels, Aliens, and the Antichrist


Pastor Doug Hamp

If God made man in His perfect image, then why did the Messiah need to come from the seed of the woman rather than the man? Was the DNA in the seed of the man corrupted during the fall of Adam? Why is the “Y” chromosome potentially problematic in the DNA strands of the male genome?

In this fascinating 3-part edition of Prophecy Update Radio host Bill Salus interviews Pastor Doug Hamp, the author of “Corrupting the Image, Angels, Aliens, and the Antichrist Revealed.”

Bill and Doug take an in-depth look at the implications of the fall of Adam, flood of Noah, coming strong delusion, and the revealing of the seed of Satan, the Antichrist. Doug Hamp believes that Satan’s seed may actually receive the Devil’s DNA, thus making him supernatural of sorts.

This interview is guaranteed to move you to the edge of your seats and present you with new insights about the importance of the virgin birth of the Messiah, and the sinister supernatural schemes of Satan.

Listen Now

Click here for Part 1

Click here for Part 2

Click here for Part 3

[WKUHilltopper]

So this wasn't about hybrid cars then? Sorry, just trying to lighten the mood a little.

LOL! That was my first thought seeing the thread title--and my impression was "Oh, great! More Chevy Volts burning down people's garages".

[Kris762]

had a listen to the 3 part series, very very interesting to say the least and worth some thought. Some of it is without doubt believable, some of it I would have to question.

Although we wont be here to see it, it's a possible scenario that can be communicated to the un-saved I guess and something I'll keep in mind when explaining what takes place after the rapture e.g. the delusion etc

[YeuEmMaiMai]

if what Ron meant by humanity's last stage as in last state of man's self rule just before we would ultimately destroy ourselves, then I would agree as Scripture does say that if it wasn't for the fact that God cuts short the time of suffering, no flesh would survive. somehow I doubt this is the case and I was thinking the same thing as this:

Satan does not need to create hybrids to have an army he can control. He already controls the majority of the world without any genetic engineering.

"I've done my own research and am convinced humanity is in its last stage." That's NOT what the Bible says. It lays out a future of 1,000 years of humanity AFTER the end of the Great Trib.

Sorry. I think Ron has tipped over the edge. Or maybe he just had a bad day.

People are going to blindly follow Satan wth no need for persuasion as they already believe in the lie...

[Meg]

People have severely underestimated the influence of movies and television pushing casual violence for decades now. The constant flow of butchery fed to the young has hardened their hearts to a point that is unfathomable to those who managed to avoid the effects.

I guess those raised in Church or who have spent most of their lives in the safety of the suburban cocoon really don't understand how deep the influence of that mess really is. I have known young women who really got into Freddy Kruger and Texas Chainsaw Massacre type films, who actually enjoyed that sort of thing. They ingest enough of the stuff and all sanity just flees...

Another very serious and largely underestimated problem is children raised in single parent homes. Mostly women, but some men as well, raising kids with multiple spouses or temporary partners, these people announce to the kids that they are "Daddy" or "Mommy", stay for a few months or a year or two, only to be replaced by the next one, that just tears kids to pieces, and they do grow up. No tinkering with DNA can rival the emotional damage done by unfettered sin, and the soul cannot be removed from humanity either. Scripture states clearly that life was given to Adam by the very breath of God. NO amount of DNA tinkering can change that.

Wake up people and understand that sin KILLS!!! It kills from within, slowly with deep agony. THIS is why repentance MATTERS! Don't drink the poison...

Isaiah 52:11

Depart, depart, go out from there! Touch no unclean thing! Come out from it and be pure, you who carry the vessels of the LORD.

[Robert]

If people's souls were able to be manipulated by changing the makeup of their bodies, them my grandmother, mother and father would have long since lost theirs (my grandmother and mother were amputees, and my dad needed several surgeries over his lifetime).

I'm sorry, but with all due respect to Mr. Graham, I strongly disagree.

[Kris762]

Can I suggest you listen to that 3 part series above, it does offer some very interesting possibilities and gets you thinking, things you never considered.

[Sean Osborne]

If people's souls were able to be manipulated by changing the makeup of their bodies...

Robert,

That's not the kind of manipulation the author is talking about.

"...tampering going on with the DNA...change the genome through DNA manipulation...manipulation of human and animal DNA..."

Mr. Graham has made it unambiguously clear that he's referring to genetic level manipulation, not amputations or operations. Genetic manipulation is also referred to in the links I posted as "corrupting the image" of the Adam/man created by God.

[Sean Osborne]

Can I suggest you listen to that 3 part series above, it does offer some very interesting possibilities and gets you thinking, things you never considered.

Indeed. The mind is like a parachute -- it only works when opened.

[GlennO]

Ron Graham said:

The birth pangs that Jesus refers to in His "Olivet Discourse" lesson are upon us – only the foolish will deny it. "…all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet." Matthew 24:6b.

Mr. Graham persists in representing to the community of Believers that the 70th week of Daniel is upon us. This is tedious error and he should know better! This at best a careless treatment of important doctrine.

The Olivet Discourse is a distinctly Jewish event. There is no place for the Church/Bride within the context and purpose of Daniel CH 9:24. The seventieth week is the the Tribulation, we will NOT be here to witness the the events described starting in Revelation CH 6.

Believer's Bible Commentary:
XIII. THE KING'S OLIVET DISCOURSE (Chaps. 24, 25)
Chapters 24 and 25 form what is known as the Olivet Discourse, so named because this important pronouncement was given on the Mount of Olives. The discourse is entirely prophetic; it points forward to the Tribulation Period and the Lord's Second Coming. It primarily, though not exclusively, concerns the nation of Israel. Its locale is obviously Palestine; for example, “let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains” (Mat_24:16). Its setting is distinctly Jewish; for example, “Pray that your flight may not be ... on the Sabbath” (Mat_24:20). The reference to the elect (Mat_24:22) should be understood as God's Jewish elect, not the church. The church is not found in either the prophecies or parables of the discourse, as we shall seek to demonstrate.


UPDATE: I researched his catalog of teachings. I have no problem with this one.
http://www.raptureready.com/featured/graham/g180.html

[Sean Osborne]

Mr. Graham persists in representing to the community of Believers that the 70th week of Daniel is upon us.

GlennO,

I think in this article Ron Graham very carefully qualified that which you cite above.

In a concluding paragraph of this article he writes(emphasis added):

"I mentioned birth pangs earlier and I was alluding to a gradual but burgeoning set of conditions. As the birth pangs Jesus speaks of run the gamut from minute to extreme, the church can be seen at the beginning of those birth pangs. But as they become more and more severe, without warning, in the twinkling of an eye, the church disappears and the only people remaining to experience all the mayhem and misery created by these fallen angels and their soulless hybrids are the Christ rejecters. If you've never said yes to Jesus Christ, and you remain in that state of mind, then those extremely harsh birth pangs are going to be yours to experience."

I agree 100% with this eschatological statement. The numero uno end times 'birth pang' was the birth of Israel, in one day, on 15 May 1948

" Before she was in labor, she gave birth; Before her pain came, She delivered a male child. Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion was in labor, She gave birth to her children.

Isaiah 66:7-8

And the 'birth pangs' continue in ever increasing frequency and severity.

[Everlasting Life]

There's not doubt that there are nefarious activities in many places (including genetic research of which we may know very little about), however, I think that this: "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark" is pretty plain and clear.

I think that the OP article is reading way too much into this verse. The verse simply is saying that many will be drinking, marrying and giving in marriage...going about their business.

In fact, here's the context of this scripture below. Keep in mind Christ was talking with the disciples privately and usually He explained a more full meaning when talking privately with the disciples, I don't see any information here about genetically engineered souless people being shared with His disciples It seems from verse 39 that Christ's point was that people would be so busy with their own lives they would be taken by surprise by His return.

Matthew 24

37 “When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. 38 In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat. 39 People didn’t realize what was going to happen until the flood came and swept them all away. That is the way it will be when the Son of Man comes.

There's no doubt that lawlessness is increasing as we are told, there is no doubt there is a terrible evil in this world. All the more so to keep our eyes on Christ and to accept Christ as your saviour if not done so yet.

[mikhen7]

In simple terms, the "Birth Pangs" are what we all talk about when we speak of many, if not most, of the signs of Christ's return. I do not believe Mr. Graham believes in mid or post trib. What I believe the focus should be when looking at this subject is that the judgements that tribulation believers and the lost are going to incur are horrific. We cannot possibly explain them in full detail. The locusts coming from the Pit Rev. 9:4 are obviously demonic and are a souce of pain for the lost. Although this may be very simplistic, I believe it is exactly that verse that this whole controversy centers on. Those he writes about doing these studies are pointing to this practice, to include cloning, as end-time signs.

It is obvious that something happened to produce Nephilim in the scripture. It is also obvious that the word comes from a heb. term "naphal" which means "fallen." It is also obvious that these Giants were on the earth after the flood, because David killed one whose spear was the size of a "weavers Beam"₁ (1 Sam. 17:7) and there are many accounts of them existing in Scripture.

1) Nephilim- Gen. 6:4, Num. 13:33
2) Anakim (Giants) - Num. 13:22, 28, 33;
3) Emim - Deut. 2:10, 11, 21; 9:2
4) Rephaim - Deut 2:11, Deut. 2:20; 3:11, 13
5) Zamzummin- Deut. 2:20; 3:11, 13

From New Ungers Bible Dictionary:

GIANT. An abnormally tall and powerful human being of ancient Bible lands; the rendering of several Heb. words.
Nephilim (nef´i-lim; Heb. nepîlîm; Numbers 13:13). The form of the Heb. word denotes a plural verbal adjective or noun of passive signification, certainly from napal, “to fall,” so that the connotation is “the fallen ones,” clearly meaning the unnatural offspring that were on the earth in the years before the Flood, “and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them” (Genesis 6:4). The mention of the great stature of the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, in the evil report that the ten spies brought of the land of Canaan (Numbers 13:33) together with the LXX rendering, gigantes, suggested the translation giants. They were exceedingly wicked and violent so that “every intent” of the thoughts of men’s hearts “was only evil continually” (Genesis 6:5). See Merrill F. Unger, Biblical Demonology, pp. 45-52.
Rephaim (ref´a-im; Heb. repa´îm, “shades, ghosts”). The aboriginal giants who inhabited Canaan, Edom, Moab, and Ammon. In Abraham’s time, c. 1950 b.c., Chedorlaomer defeated them. At the period of the conquest, c. 1440 b.c., Og, king of Bashan, is said to have alone remained of this race (Deut. 3:11; Joshua 12:4; Joshua 13:12). His huge bedstead of iron is mentioned in particular.
Anakim (an´a-kim; Heb. ‘anaqîm, “sons of Anak”). In Numbers 13:33 the Anakim are classified with the Nephilim on account of their gigantic size.
Emim (em´im), a race that inhabited the country of the Moabites (Genesis 14:5) and that is pictured as “great, numerous, and tall as the Anakim” (Deut. 2:10).
Zamzummim (zam´zum-im), a giant race inhabiting the land of Ammon (Deut. 2:20).
Other References. From a remnant of the Anakim in Philistine Gath came the famous Goliath (1 Samuel 17:4). Two of the Philistine giants are mentioned in 2 Samuel 21:16-22. The tradition of a giant race persisted in the ancient Near East and goes back in the Genesis account to intercourse between fallen angels and mortal women. Although this so-called angel hypothesis of Genesis 6:1-4 is disclaimed by many Bible students, it is a clear implication of the original. Says W. F. Albright, “Yahweh was believed to have created astral as well as terrestrial beings and the former were popularly called, ‘the host of heaven’ or ‘the sons of God’. In Genesis 6:1ff., for example, . . . the (astral) gods had intercourse with mortal women who gave birth to heroes (literally, meteors, nephilim), an idea that may often be illustrated from Babylonian and Greek mythology. But the Israelite who had this section recited, unquestionably thought of intercourse between angels and women (like later Jews and Christians)” (From the Stone Age to Christianity [1940], p. 226).

Another obvious fact that something very wicked had taken hold and control of the minds of mankind in pre-flood days, was there were only 8 (eight - EIGHT -- the number eight) souls saved out of the flood. Conservative Biblical genealogical studies show the flood to have occurred approximately 1656 years after the creation of Adam. Population studies show that according to algorithms in use today the population could have been approximately 2, 800,000 people. Wow! that is a lot of lost souls.

With so much evidence of Giants that existed in Scripture I do not think it is a subject to ignore or talk around. I personally agree with Sean and always have, that something occurred that was wicked and it resulted in Demonic offspring. I also believe that God was always aware of Satan's every move. Satan knew that God had promised Abraham's descendants the Promised Land and so, in keeping lock step with his passion to be like God and destroy His people, the pre-flood corruption was waiting for the Israelite's at the Promised Land's borders. I also believe it is what the Lord was referring to in Genesis 15:16 (NKJV), "But in the fourth generation they (Israel) shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete." When in due time their evil activity had reached its fullness, The Lord delivered Israel from Egypt and was ready to give the land to Israel. But the 10 spy's of "little faith" ran in to these giants and thus losing God's original blessing and bringing judgment upon themselves for 40 years.

I know there are some of my brothers and sisters who will disagree but I have never seen a better or more plausible explanation that vindicates the Lord's just actions.

¹ Weavers Beam - Approximately 2 1/2 - 3" thick and of variable lengths. It had a spearpoint that weighed between 15-18 lbs. How far can you throw a sack of potatoes??

God Bless!

[FaithInChrist]

I saw a documentary (not sure if that is what you would call it?) but it talked about indigo children. The narrator started the movie by talking about alien sightings and alien abductions. First of all, he got into interviews with people that claimed they had been abducted by aliens. One of the hair raising things he said was there were several document cases where the person being held by the aliens would call out to Jesus and the terror would immediately stop. He said that fact has been found in many cases but isn't documented because the people that are trying to put together facts about alien abductions want to be taken seriously (shameful).

Anyway, their theory (and that is all it is, I am sure) is that Satan has been abducting those that are not under the protection of the Holy Spirit (not all of them, but some, probably the most pliable) and taking DNA for experimentation. He believes that Satan has been trying for centuries, possibly millenia to manipulate the human DNA to be mixed with the DNA of the fallen angels and not be detectable. So he is saying these children would physically look like human children, and not the monsters and giants that were created during the time of Noah. He thinks that children with compromised genomes are being born in increasing numbers. These "Indigo Children" who have incredible psychic powers, and telekinetic powers, are actually the spawn of Satan, or at the very least the dna of fallen angels. If you think about it, it would be much easier for Satan to "sneak" his seed in. Then he doesn't have to risk a mom thinking she gave birth to the "son of satan".

Now when these children grow up and start to mix with the human race, who knows what will happen.

I do not know if the indigo children are truly the spawn of satan, I am not comfortable calling any child the spawn of satan. I think it is so disgusting though, for satan to mess with our children, who are the fruit of our loins. They are supposed to be blessings, not a curse.

I do believe satan will be sneaky and it will not be obvious to us, unless they truly do not have a soul, in that case they will be very easy to discern. I do believe though that an extremely intelligent souless person would quite possible be able to fake it.