Mark of the Beast?

[Mad Matt]

Daniel 7:25(KJV)
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Been doing some research and found out that it was Constantine, way back in A.D.321 started the first Sunday worship to unite pagans and Christians to further disassociate with the Jews and make a stronger church. If you read the The Converts Cathechism of Catholic Doctrine they admit Saturday is THE Sabbath. When asked why they worship on Sunday:"We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."(1957 ed. p.50) Wow. People say its because Jesus rose on Sunday. I say He obeyed the Sabbath. The Sabbath does not celebrate Resurection but Creation. It is God's seal. That would make Sunday worship neat but someone elses seal.


Exodus 20:8-11(KJV)
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Remembering the Sabbath is the Fourth Commandment, a Pledge of Allegiance to God.
Which is correct?

[Chris]

Is Sunday Worship An Image Of The Beast? | GraceThruFaith

Is Sunday Worship An Image Of The Beast?

Q. In Revelation 14 : 9-10 says, “ if anyone worships the beast and his image …… he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, “. Most of us Christian
Worship on Sunday, and not on Sabbath ( Saturday ). Is Sunday an image of the beast ? Are we worshiping the image of the beast which is Sunday ? Will we all go to hell because of this ?

A. Rev. 14:9-10 refers back to Rev. 13:14-15 which says the false prophet ( who has not yet appeared on the scene) will set up an image in honor of the beast (anti-Christ) which he will then cause to appear as if it’s a living thing, and require everyone to worship it. This will take place just after the Great Tribulation begins, after the Church is gone (neither of which has happened yet).

An image is a representation of something, and Rev. 13:14-15 confirms this to be a physical image, not a symbolic one. It’s like a statue. All these facts lead us to the conclusion that the image cannot be a day of the week and therefore we cannot go to hell for worshiping on Sunday. Paul said all days are alike and each of us should fully convinced in our own mind as to which one we choose (Romans 14:5). In other words, it doesn’t matter if we worship on Saturday or Sunday as long as we’re convinced we’re doing the right thing.

[Hannah]

COL 2:20 Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21 "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22 These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

COL 3:1 Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. 2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. 3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

COL 3:5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. 7 You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. 8 But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. 11 Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.

COL 3:12 Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. 13 Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. 14 And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.

COL 3:15 Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs with gratitude in your hearts to God. 17 And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

I'm tired of all the debates. Don't practice Easter because it is pagan and not the passover when Jesus was actually crucified. Jesus wasn't born at Christmas and by the way it used to be a pagan Holiday, & etc...

My choice to worship on a Sunday and remember Christ's birth & crucificiation/ressurection at Christmas and Easter respectively is not associated with any kind of pagan worship. I am not regulated by other people's inability to understand we are under Grace and not Laws today.

If you have a problem with going to a church on Sunday then don't go on a Sunday. If you think Easter is connected to some pagan God then don't practice the holiday. If you don't believe we can celebrate the birth of Jesus on 25th Dec you don't have to. Actually my family celebrates it on the 7th Jan.

Your problem not mine.

When I worship God on a Sunday at Church with other Christians (some of which in our congregation are Messianic Jews by the way) I am doing so with a clear conscience.

I'm sorry for anyone that has a problem with these kinds of things and doesn't feel free to be in relationship with God as He desired for us to have with Him. Christ died to set us free from the Law & because the Law cannot save mankind. I choose to exercise my freedom and worship God on Sundays with my brothers and sisters in Christ. I will be also indulging in Easter services and might even have a chocolate egg or two (not that they symbolise or mean anything but they are yummy and available at this time of year, I've just had some hot cross buns for afternoon tea simply because I like their taste).

I live my life for the Lord. I desire to be a good witness for Him and live it as a good steward of what God has given me in this world. Not perfectly but as best I can at the level of spiritual maturity that I currently have. I hope to grow in godliness.

You can easily follow laws and regulations without being a Saved Believer or Child of God. The Pharisees were very good at doing this but their hearts were far from God.

MT 14:34 When they had crossed over, they landed at Gennesaret. 35 And when the men of that place recognized Jesus, they sent word to all the surrounding country. People brought all their sick to him 36 and begged him to let the sick just touch the edge of his cloak, and all who touched him were healed.

MT 15:1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 "Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!"

MT 15:3 Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, `Honor your father and mother' and `Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.' 5 But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, `Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,' 6 he is not to `honor his father' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:

MT 15:8 " `These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.

MT 15:9 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men.' "

MT 15:10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. 11 What goes into a man's mouth does not make him `unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him`unclean.' "

MT 15:12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, "Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?"

[Meg]

I'm tired of all the debates. Don't practice Easter because it is pagan and not the passover when Jesus was actually crucified. Jesus wasn't born at Christmas and by the way it used to be a pagan Holiday, & etc...

My choice to worship on a Sunday and remember Christ's birth & crucificiation/ressurection at Christmas and Easter respectively is not associated with any kind of pagan worship. I am not regulated by other people's inability to understand we are under Grace and not Laws today.

If you have a problem with going to a church on Sunday then don't go on a Sunday. If you think Easter is connected to some pagan God then don't practice the holiday. If you don't believe we can celebrate the birth of Jesus on 25th Dec you don't have to. Actually my family celebrates it on the 7th Jan.

Your problem not mine.

When I worship God on a Sunday at Church with other Christians (some of which in our congregation are Messianic Jews by the way) I am doing so with a clear conscience.

I'm sorry for anyone that has a problem with these kinds of things and doesn't feel free to be in relationship with God as He desired for us to have with Him. Christ died to set us free from the Law & because the Law cannot save mankind. I choose to exercise my freedom and worship God on Sundays with my brothers and sisters in Christ. I will be also indulging in Easter services and might even have a chocolate egg or two (not that they symbolise or mean anything but they are yummy and available at this time of year, I've just had some hot cross buns for afternoon tea simply because I like their taste).

I live my life for the Lord. I desire to be a good witness for Him and live it as a good steward of what God has given me in this world. Not perfectly but as best I can at the level of spiritual maturity that I currently have. I hope to grow in godliness.

You can easily follow laws and regulations without being a Saved Believer or Child of God. The Pharisees were very good at doing this but their hearts were far from God.

One resounding AMEN Hannah!

[Bobbi]

amen to that Hannah. It is so wonderful to not worry about such things and to be free from the law to worship and live for Christ

[Keeplookinup]

Amen Hannah! Praise God for His unmerited GRACE! To me the key is to WORSHIP God...however, wherever the Spirit moves you to do so. If I had to follow a bunch of rules, then I would worry about trying to keep them all perfectly. Jesus sets us FREE!

[Patiently...]

I will add my Amen to the list.

[readytogo]

Add another "Amen!!" to the list!!

[SonSeeker]

Amen, Hannah. Well said.

[Robert]

I'm tired of all the debates. Don't practice Easter because it is pagan and not the passover when Jesus was actually crucified. Jesus wasn't born at Christmas and by the way it used to be a pagan Holiday, & etc...

My choice to worship on a Sunday and remember Christ's birth & crucificiation/ressurection at Christmas and Easter respectively is not associated with any kind of pagan worship. I am not regulated by other people's inability to understand we are under Grace and not Laws today.

If you have a problem with going to a church on Sunday then don't go on a Sunday. If you think Easter is connected to some pagan God then don't practice the holiday. If you don't believe we can celebrate the birth of Jesus on 25th Dec you don't have to. Actually my family celebrates it on the 7th Jan.

Your problem not mine.

When I worship God on a Sunday at Church with other Christians (some of which in our congregation are Messianic Jews by the way) I am doing so with a clear conscience.

I'm sorry for anyone that has a problem with these kinds of things and doesn't feel free to be in relationship with God as He desired for us to have with Him. Christ died to set us free from the Law & because the Law cannot save mankind. I choose to exercise my freedom and worship God on Sundays with my brothers and sisters in Christ. I will be also indulging in Easter services and might even have a chocolate egg or two (not that they symbolise or mean anything but they are yummy and available at this time of year, I've just had some hot cross buns for afternoon tea simply because I like their taste).

I live my life for the Lord. I desire to be a good witness for Him and live it as a good steward of what God has given me in this world. Not perfectly but as best I can at the level of spiritual maturity that I currently have. I hope to grow in godliness.

You can easily follow laws and regulations without being a Saved Believer or Child of God. The Pharisees were very good at doing this but their hearts were far from God.

"Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God. If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men? These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence." (Colossians 2:16-23 NASB, emphasis mine)

Amen Hannah!!

[Lily]

That was a breath of fresh air Hannah. Thank you.

And I'll say Amen to that too!

[Mad Matt]

Amen Hannah! Praise God for His unmerited GRACE! To me the key is to WORSHIP God...however, wherever the Spirit moves you to do so. If I had to follow a bunch of rules, then I would worry about trying to keep them all perfectly. Jesus sets us FREE!

Yes we do see that the Sabbath is different for the Christian than for the Jew.
Matthew 12:3-8(KJV)Matthew 12:11-12(KJV) Matthew 19:18-19(KJV) Notice the Fourth Commandment was ommited! Because Matthew ran out of ink? I don't think so, but because the Sabbath is now seven days a week.
However, for not having to obey any rules, that sounds a little ubu if you ask me. Lets go to the scripture.
Matthew 5:17-18(KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
The law (or bunch of rules) still does apply to Christian life. If not how would one distinguish you from a pagan?
Heaven and earth have not passed last I looked! Jesus came in fulfillment of the prophets, but not to destroy the law.
Matthew 6:14-15(KJV)
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Follow here and you need not worry. Faith takes work, sin does not have to. If being a Christian did not take work everyone would be one. Think about it. You can lie in bed and sin up a storm! Faith takes blood,sweat,and tears! Work. Work without faith gets you nowhere,however, faith without works is dead.

[Hannah]

Yes we do see that the Sabbath is different for the Christian than for the Jew.
Matthew 12:3-8(KJV)Matthew 12:11-12(KJV) Matthew 19:18-19(KJV) Notice the Fourth Commandment was ommited! Because Matthew ran out of ink? I don't think so, but because the Sabbath is now seven days a week.
However, for not having to obey any rules, that sounds a little ubu if you ask me. Lets go to the scripture.
Matthew 5:17-18(KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
The law (or bunch of rules) still does apply to Christian life. If not how would one distinguish you from a pagan?
Heaven and earth have not passed last I looked! Jesus came in fulfillment of the prophets, but not to destroy the law.
Matthew 6:14-15(KJV)
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Follow here and you need not worry.

Faith takes work, sin does not have to. If being a Christian did not take work everyone would be one. Think about it. You can lie in bed and sin up a storm! Faith takes blood,sweat,and tears! Work. Work without faith gets you nowhere,however, faith without works is dead.

No One here is saying that we have the freedom to just Sin any way we like now we have been Saved through Christ. Only that we are under the New Covenant of Grace and that means there are some Old Testament Laws that were meant to bring you forgivness and righteousness before the Lord we are no longer required to follow.

We are not enslaved to all the OLD Testament Laws and rules and regulations. Jesus fulfilled some of them so we don't have to do them any more such as sacrificing for sins at the Temple. Jesus was the perfect Lamb of God and so we no longer are required to continue sacrificing for sins.

Some of the laws were rules and regulations, laws for religious and ritualistic cleanliness. We are now made clean by Jesus. Even Jesus addressed this issue and corrected the Pharisees because they followed them without understanding them properly.

MT 15:3 Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, `Honor your father and mother' and `Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.' 5 But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, `Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,' 6 he is not to `honor his father' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:

MT 15:8 " `These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.

MT 15:9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' "

MT 15:10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. 11 What goes into a man's mouth does not make him `unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him`unclean.' "

MT 15:12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, "Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?"

MT 15:13 He replied, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."

MT 15:15 Peter said, "Explain the parable to us."

MT 15:16 "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. 17 "Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man `unclean.' 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what make a man `unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him `unclean.' "

Some laws or rules or rituals are not required and we have been set free from them through Christ. It is these laws and rules and rituals that in the Old Testament were used to keep people Righteous in the eyes of God have been superceded by the Death of Christ because only the Perfect Lamb of God could permanently and continuoulsy deal with our Sins. So some of the Old Testament rules, laws or rituals have been replaced by Jesus death and resurrection and changing the way we can live our lives before the Lord today as we remain Righteous before Him only by the Blood of Christ. No longer having to follow previous strict worship laws does not mean we are disobeying God or breaking the law or being Sinners. We are not encouraging Christians to just live any way they like as the following scriptures indicate.

GAL 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

GAL 5:2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5 But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for which we hope. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

GAL 5:7 You were running a good race. Who cut in on you and kept you from obeying the truth? 8 That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. 9 "A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough." 10 I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other view. The one who is throwing you into confusion will pay the penalty, whoever he may be. 11 Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished. 12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

GAL 5:13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

GAL 5:16 So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 17 For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.

GAL 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

GAL 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

GAL 6:1 Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. 2 Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. 3 If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else, 5 for each one should carry his own load.

Our Faith should produce GOOD Works. It is not a sign of our Salvation. Only God can look upon the heart of a person and know if they have truly repented and received Christ. Our Good Works is not an assurance of our salvation either.

EPH 2:1 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

EPH 2:11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called "uncircumcised" by those who call themselves "the circumcision" (that done in the body by the hands of men)-- 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.

EPH 2:14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

EPH 2:19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

EPH 3:1 For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for the sake of you Gentiles--

Your comment to Keeplookingup was not required and you have misunderstood her remark. When you look at the Bible she has not said anything contrary to the Word of God.

We have been set free by Christ from rules and regulations so we can now without restraints truly worship God and follow Him in willing obedience because we now have the Spirit of God leading us.

I agree with you that our Faith should produce good works. This is a separate issue to what was being discussed by those of us who were saying we have freedom (through Christ's death because of Grace) to worship God on a Sunday or at Easter and Christmas.

Actually your words I have highlighted at the end of your post are very disturbing.

" Faith takes work, sin does not have to. If being a Christian did not take work everyone would be one."

I have already addressed how we get Saved and clearly the Bible teaches that is is only BY the GRACE of God through the Death and Ressurrection of the Perfect Sacrifice for the Sins of ALL mankind, Jesus Christ!

You think about what you have just said here? Are you suggesting that we have to do good works to get Salvation?. Because you know NO ONE is able to save themselves through their own Works. As I already noted the scripture states when you just break one of the many Laws of God you have failed and therefore face judgement and eternal punishment.

Salvation is a FREE GIFT FROM God. Yes that is correct. It is literally free, no work required. And even so not every body is a Saved Believer/Christian. Why? Because people are not willing to Humble themselves, Repent and Receive this FREE GIFT.

Salvation was paid for completely by God Himself. The PRICE was His Son Jesus who died for us. That is what Easter is all about.

[anthony57]

The Mark of the beast is merely man, its man without a saving knowledge of Christ. This man trys to establish his own righteiusness. Prov 14:12

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

[Chris]

The Mark of the beast is merely man, its man without a saving knowledge of Christ. This man trys to establish his own righteiusness. Prov 14:12

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

No, I do not believe that is correct. Let's examine the scriptures:

Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon. He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men.

Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. (Rev. 13:11-17)

The mark of the beast will be similar to a "tattoo" or some other mark that "counterfeits" the seal of God on those who belong to him. Satan will want his own mark, and it is the mark of the beast. On the right hand or on the forehead as the scriptures indicate.

[Thoughtspaz]

Rev 13:11-17 looks pretty straight forward to me, Chris.

Why would anyone want to read something else into it?

[Thoughtspaz]

"It is God's seal. That would make Sunday worship neat but someone elses seal."

In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation-- having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, Eph 1:13

[Robert]

No One here is saying that we have the freedom to just Sin any way we like now we have been Saved through Christ. Only that we are under the New Covenant of Grace and that means there are some Old Testament Laws that were meant to bring you forgivness and righteousness before the Lord we are no longer required to follow.

We are not enslaved to all the OLD Testament Laws and rules and regulations. Jesus fulfilled some of them so we don't have to do them any more such as sacrificing for sins at the Temple. Jesus was the perfect Lamb of God and so we no longer are required to continue sacrificing for sins.

Some of the laws were rules and regulations, laws for religious and ritualistic cleanliness. We are now made clean by Jesus. Even Jesus addressed this issue and corrected the Pharisees because they followed them without understanding them properly.



Some laws or rules or rituals are not required and we have been set free from them through Christ. It is these laws and rules and rituals that in the Old Testament were used to keep people Righteous in the eyes of God have been superceded by the Death of Christ because only the Perfect Lamb of God could permanently and continuoulsy deal with our Sins. So some of the Old Testament rules, laws or rituals have been replaced by Jesus death and resurrection and changing the way we can live our lives before the Lord today as we remain Righteous before Him only by the Blood of Christ. No longer having to follow previous strict worship laws does not mean we are disobeying God or breaking the law or being Sinners. We are not encouraging Christians to just live any way they like as the following scriptures indicate.





Our Faith should produce GOOD Works. It is not a sign of our Salvation. Only God can look upon the heart of a person and know if they have truly repented and received Christ. Our Good Works is not an assurance of our salvation either.




Your comment to Keeplookingup was not required and you have misunderstood her remark. When you look at the Bible she has not said anything contrary to the Word of God.

We have been set free by Christ from rules and regulations so we can now without restraints truly worship God and follow Him in willing obedience because we now have the Spirit of God leading us.

I agree with you that our Faith should produce good works. This is a separate issue to what was being discussed by those of us who were saying we have freedom (through Christ's death because of Grace) to worship God on a Sunday or at Easter and Christmas.

Amen!!!

[LivnForChrist]

Well said Hanna. I agree also.

[anthony57]

chris:

No, I do not believe that is correct.

Thats ok..