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    The following material is from Hal Lindsey's book The Late Great Planet Earth, chapter 9 titled The Future Fuehrer. He wrote this book just after he graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary, and the whole book is absolutely brilliant and very insightful. If you want to study End Times prophecy, Late Great Planet Earth is indispensable.

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    A dictator? Who is a dictator? What makes a dictator? A dictator is a person with absolute authority, a person who has power over people. Does he appear suddenly on the scene and say "Stop this democratic process, I am your leader now"? That isn't the way it happens.

    ...His tyranny is the end result of chaos in the society that results in his rise to despotic power. The dictionary describes him as a person who seizes the authority over a nation as the result of an emergency.
    This is critical to understand. A dictator portrays himself as a savior, the man with all the answers, when life as normal is lost in a sudden outbreak of extreme chaos or instability. Now lets theoretically apply this concept to events developing this year. The muslims have infiltrated every nation on Earth through unprecedented immigration. They are claiming they're a religion of peace, and every time their unbelievably violent bad habits are challenged, they paint themselves as the victim. This mass emigration of muslims from their home countries to every other country on the planet reminds me of a spreading virus (I read up on that frightening Ebola virus in the 1990's, and the habits of Ebola bear a striking resemblance to the habits of muslims. If you think I'm kidding, read a book about Ebola sometime).

    So here's the scenario I think I see coming. Iran, a country positively identified as a key player in Gog/Magog is indicating that their mythical 12th imam is about to emerge from the bottom of a well where he's been hanging out for the last 1200 years or so. Since he was allegedly 7 years old the last time he was seen, its pretty safe to say that whoever gets to be the supposedly 12th imam is going to be at least 50, probably older... *ahem* On a much more serious note, whoever gets the position will just about certainly call for all out jihad against everyone everywhere, as the muslims have a foundational ambition to convert the entire human race to their "religion of peace". Given the standard muslim evangelism technique, ie convert or die, chaos, very large scale chaos isn't just a possibility, its a certainty. This is a very good description for the beginning phases of the unprecedented event known as the Great Tribulation.

    In other words, if or when the 12th imam calls for worldwide jihad and sets off every single muslim sleeper cell in one huge coordinated detonation, that absolutely will set the stage for the antichrist to step in, tell everybody how he can make everything OK, put everyone left alive on a one-world monetary system, and trust him to have all the answers. Between the advent of the Rapture, and the business-as-usual mass murders of the standard islamic lifestyle, the human population of the Earth will be reduced enough for existing technology to enable the mark of the beast to be fully implemented. Should the AC choose to subdue the muslims, and he may very well decide to do exactly that, the MOB and the one world currency would seem to make perfect sense indeed...

    This is my theory based on current events.
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    One thing I have noticed is that unlike Christians, who trust in God to make the prophecy of scripture come to pass, the Muslims feel that they must work to make the "prophecies" of the Koran happen.

    ( Guess their "god" needs help. Some "supreme deity" they have, huh? )

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    After the Biblical wars of Psalm 83, Isaiah 17, and Ezekiel 38 & 39, the Islamics aren't likely to have the same kind of influence and power that they have now. I think that the AC is going to come from the EU (the revived Roman Empire). Daniel 9:24-27

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanne View Post
    After the Biblical wars of Psalm 83, Isaiah 17, and Ezekiel 38 & 39, the Islamics aren't likely to have the same kind of influence and power that they have now. I think that the AC is going to come from the EU (the revived Roman Empire). Daniel 9:24-27
    I think so, too.

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    Meg isn't saying here that the 12th Imam is going to be the AC. But what I think she is saying is that Islam will try to bring him forward and that his activities would set off a jihad that would allow for the AC to rise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Meg isn't saying here that the 12th Imam is going to be the AC. But what I think she is saying is that Islam will try to bring him forward and that his activities would set off a jihad that would allow for the AC to rise.
    Well, we don't even know if there will be a 12th imam, that's what satan says in his prophecies of the koran, but that doesn't mean that there will be a 12th imama. He could have put that in there to just keep the Islamic masses looking for something. I don't put an ounce of credibility into the Islamic prophecies, don't even care what they say because I know it is a counterfeit to get people to pay attention to it rather than to what God's word says. That's just my honest opinion of the 12th imam stuff. Those people over there in Iran are just poor deceived souls who don't know any better. I think the Bible even says that people will do evil thinking they are doing God a service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Well, we don't even know if there will be a 12th imam, that's what satan says in his prophecies of the koran, but that doesn't mean that there will be a 12th imama. He could have put that in there to just keep the Islamic masses looking for something. I don't put an ounce of credibility into the Islamic prophecies, don't even care what they say because I know it is a counterfeit to get people to pay attention to it rather than to what God's word says. That's just my honest opinion of the 12th imam stuff. Those people over there in Iran are just poor deceived souls who don't know any better. I think the Bible even says that people will do evil thinking they are doing God a service.
    12th imama??? Is that the 12th Imam's mommy? :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    12th imama??? Is that the 12th Imam's mommy? :
    Opps, did I do that?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Opps, did I do that?!!
    Yes. Yes, you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Well, we don't even know if there will be a 12th imam, that's what satan says in his prophecies of the koran, but that doesn't mean that there will be a 12th imama. He could have put that in there to just keep the Islamic masses looking for something. I don't put an ounce of credibility into the Islamic prophecies, don't even care what they say because I know it is a counterfeit to get people to pay attention to it rather than to what God's word says. That's just my honest opinion of the 12th imam stuff. Those people over there in Iran are just poor deceived souls who don't know any better. I think the Bible even says that people will do evil thinking they are doing God a service.
    I understand your point, Chris, but the problem isn't the false prophecy itself, the problem is the muslim clerics exploiting it, which they fully intend to do. Iran has stated that they intend to exploit this thing, and thats the danger. This is the sort of thing that can potentially instigate the level of chaos required to cause the rise of the AC.
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    I will tell of all your deeds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg View Post
    I understand your point, Chris, but the problem isn't the false prophecy itself, the problem is the muslim clerics exploiting it, which they fully intend to do. Iran has stated that they intend to exploit this thing, and thats the danger. This is the sort of thing that can potentially instigate the level of chaos required to cause the rise of the AC.
    I agree. I think the Islamics will get themselves going with this stuff, blame the stuff on Israel, and then come against them resulting in the prophecies being fulfilled and then the power vacuum that is created will pave the way for the AC from the Western Europe. then again, it could be out of desperation from protests, riots, etc. that causes dictators like Assad to act which results in Isaiah 17 which in turn leads to more things like Ezekiel 38-39. It's all a mess and deception is rampant. JMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I agree. I think the Islamics will get themselves going with this stuff, blame the stuff on Israel, and then come against them resulting in the prophecies being fulfilled and then the power vacuum that is created will pave the way for the AC from the Western Europe. then again, it could be out of desperation from protests, riots, etc. that causes dictators like Assad to act which results in Isaiah 17 which in turn leads to more things like Ezekiel 38-39. It's all a mess and deception is rampant. JMHO.
    Yea, thats exactly the sort of thing I was getting at. I'm not going to try to pin the tail on the AC, but islam is so satanic, and that false prophecy is too, I can't help but think they'll be involved. Briefly, we're seriously close to the Rapture. Events are heading in that direction at a very rapid pace now...
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    I agree that the rage against the dictators that has caused the riots and chaos among the Islamic nations will soon be turned toward Israel. That's always been a trick of those despotic rulers when the masses get angry over not having jobs or food enough for their families, while their leaders have billions of dollars and lifestyles that most of the rich and famous would envy.

    I've always thought that most of the power of the Islamics would be broken by the end of the three Biblical wars. I can and do see how the anti-christ could rise after the current chaos and the likely resulting wars against Israel that will come out of it.

    I also think that the rapture is close. There may be a little stage-setting left for the tribulation, but no more has to happen before the rapture. The sooner it happens, the happier we'll all be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Well, we don't even know if there will be a 12th imam, that's what satan says in his prophecies of the koran, but that doesn't mean that there will be a 12th imama. He could have put that in there to just keep the Islamic masses looking for something. I don't put an ounce of credibility into the Islamic prophecies, don't even care what they say because I know it is a counterfeit to get people to pay attention to it rather than to what God's word says. That's just my honest opinion of the 12th imam stuff. Those people over there in Iran are just poor deceived souls who don't know any better. I think the Bible even says that people will do evil thinking they are doing God a service.
    I know the muslims are poor deceived souls. It breaks my heart the way little kids are indoctrinated into that mess, and the way men and women with little to lose are bribed or persuaded into killing themselves for some imam's pet cause. For all that, their idea of a way of life horrifies me. I see the photos on the news of men walking down the streets with military assault weapons in plain sight, and I wonder what makes that seem "normal" to them. Mass murder is a regular occurrence in Pakistan, and Iraq isn't much better. From the news footage, most of the men seem to have little or no daily work to keep them busy, and the women don't seem to be permitted to be seen in public. What kind of life is that? What horror of a way of thinking makes that seem normal, even in a foreign country? How can anyone justify such behavior in the name of an alleged god??? Its just too twisted, they call their way of life "good", while they call the mostly non violent westerners who never pack small arms, let alone heavy weapons in public "evil". Please forgive me if i have some trouble feeling sorry for such people, when the people agree who their leaders will be and why...

    I never have understood societies who permit and even encourage such mutually self destructive cultural norms... Thats why I love Christianity; our Bible gives us a sane set of unchanging guidelines by which to live. If we could only accept the wisdom of Scripture and live by that, all would be peace and goodness...
    Psalm 73:28

    28 But as for me, it is good to be near God.
    I have made the Sovereign Lord my refuge;
    I will tell of all your deeds.


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    IMHO the person who will become the anti-christ is alive and well at this point in time. I have hears some people say that he will actually be possessed by the devil himself....... I do know this i do not want to be around to see it.

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