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    ESCHATOLOGY TODAY: Another Muslim Massacre of Christians

    Another Muslim Massacre of Christians
    By Sean Osborne

    It’s 2 January 2011 and it’s wake up time. Again.

    If I had any doubt about a soon-to-occur Islamic coup d’etat occurring in Egypt that doubt vanished with the massacre of Christians during the midnight New Years Day Mass at the Saints Coptic Orthodox Church in Alexandria.

    There was obvious collusion and coordination between the Egyptian government security guards and the Islamic jihadists who planned the massacre. The Egyptian government guards abandoned their duty stations around the church just prior to the arrival of a green Skoda automobile and the detonation of a 220 lb bomb laced with nails, ball bearings and thick shards of glass. A bumber sticker on the rear of the Skoda read: “the rest is coming.”

    There are many more than just the initial report of 21 dead and 96 injured. The number of dead in particular is well in excess of just 21. That number is based upon the severed arms and legs the Christians had to retreive from in front of the church after covering them with newspapers.

    A throng of Muslim jihadists swarmed the scene of the massacre from the mosque across the street and began stomping on and otherwise mutilating the body parts of the dead Christians while shouting “Allah Akhbar.” Some of the Christians body parts landed on the fourth floor of nearby buildings whose windows had been blown out by the detonation.

    Just try to imagine that scene. You’re a Christian in Egypt. Dozens of your beloved family and friends lie dead and butchered beyond recognition around you. Blood is everywhere. And the Muslims are chanting “Allah is Great.” Does it pass your notice that the identical thing occured throughout Muslim lands in the aftermath of 9/11?

    Egyptian government officals have placed blame for this massacre at the feet of either Al Qaeda or the Israeli Mossad. Somethings will never change, but you, the Egyptian Christian, as well as the American Christian, know it was neither. It was your Muslim neighbors at their “religion of peace” best.

    This massacre was the work of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood… a branch of which exists in these United States and is known as the Council of American Islamic relations (CAIR).

    We’re next.

    It’s time to wake up and put an end to this nonsense before it is too late.

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    Perhaps Americans have slumbered for too long. Perhaps they have been dumbed-down enmasse.

    Can you imagine going to church one Sunday morning and ending up in the hospital with fellow parishoners, local law enforcement officers and HAZMAT first responders and having no clue why?

    It happened this morning in Bucks County, Jamison, Pennsylvania. A HAZMAT incident occured during morning worship services at the St. Cyril of Jerusalem Church on Almshouse Road.

    Worshippers, rescuers sickened at Bucks church

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    hardly the religion of peace
    you know there real agenda is to murder every living
    being that is not Muslim
    why are they allowed on American soil

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    Praying for the family members of the victims.


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    For reference to the last words of the thread OP: The Council of American Islamic Relations (CAIR).

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    Sean, you're certainly pulling details that didn't show up in the regular media reports. I've been reading that the Christians were pretty well rioting after the initial explosion, and are still protesting angrily (good for them!) as of yesterday. There was no mention in the mainstream media of the muslim "hoe-down". this is sickening and disturbing. Egypt has a long record of persecuting the Christian populace, the usual muslim "neighborliness"...
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    This is the latest from the BBC

    BBC News - Alexandria church bomb: Egypt police on high alert

    Alexandria church bomb: Egypt police on high alert

    Hundreds of Egyptian riot police are deployed outside the church in Alexandria where 21 Christians were killed in a New Year's Day bomb attack.

    On Sunday, crowds of Christians took to the streets of Alexandria and the capital, Cairo, to denounce the attack.

    Several suspects are being questioned over the bombing, which the Egyptian authorities have blamed on foreigners.

    The country is on high alert ahead of the Coptic Christmas holiday, which falls on Friday.

    Security forces have tightened surveillance at airports and ports to prevent suspects from heading out of Egypt, and set up new checkpoints across the country, press reports said.

    Meanwhile, the most senior Muslim cleric in Egypt, Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, has accused Pope Benedict XVI of interfering in Egypt's internal affairs, after he called on world leaders to protect Middle East Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg View Post
    Sean, you're certainly pulling details that didn't show up in the regular media reports.
    Yes, the data mining I had to engage in late that night was most intensive. I found and copied most of the gory information just before an English-language Egyptian Coptic website was pulled down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Osborne View Post
    Yes, the data mining I had to engage in late that night was most intensive. I found and copied most of the gory information just before an English-language Egyptian Coptic website was pulled down.
    I'm not surprised. Thank you for digging that up too. The Egyptian govt whitewashed the whole thing, didn't they? I've heard quite a bit about the oppression of Egyptian Christians. The BBC had photos showing -- it must have been at least 50 riot police on the scene that night, and the Christians got all the blame. Not a peep about any muslim trouble makers. Yea, they whitewashed that all right, and when the media attention fades, bet me, they're gonna go off even worse on any Christians who don't evacuate to a safer country.
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    I'm not surprised. Thank you for digging that up too. The Egyptian govt whitewashed the whole thing, didn't they? I've heard quite a bit about the oppression of Egyptian Christians. The BBC had photos showing -- it must have been at least 50 riot police on the scene that night, and the Christians got all the blame. Not a peep about any muslim trouble makers. Yea, they whitewashed that all right, and when the media attention fades, bet me, they're gonna go off even worse on any Christians who don't evacuate to a safer country.
    Yes, no doubt that there's more Haimacide coming. It occurred in Iraq recently, now Egypt, and will soon occur elsewhere around the globe, even here in the USA.

    Last time I checked, the trump of God has never sounded retreat, but that's precisely what many Christians do when confronted with the truth of the war which has been declared against us.

    Here's a good report from the front lines in Europe: Egypt: Edict posted to jihadist websites 'legitimises' church attack'

    Also, while I'm at it, here's a good article by Bill Warner that appeared January 2nd on AmericanThinker.Com: Tend My Flock

    Key excerpt:

    There is a common acronym: WWJD (what would Jesus do)? This should be a living question in a Christian's mind. An even more important question is, What did Jesus do? It turns out that we have detailed accounting of Jesus debating and criticizing religious leaders. Even a causal observation of the gospel accountings shows two things. Jesus knew more about the subject under debate than anyone in the room. He also stood up in public and private and confronted error, even against leadership.


    What would it mean if a Christian leader tried to follow Christ's example of knowing the subject? It would mean that the leader would know the Koran and the Sunna of Mohammed. He would be able to comment on the great themes of the Koran and know it as a story. He would know the Sira, the life of Mohammed, and have detailed knowledge of the Hadith. He would know the history of the Christian dhimmi. He would know what happened to the Seven Churches of Asia mentioned in Revelation. He would know how Egypt, Turkey, North Africa, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon all went from being Christian to Islamic. This is not difficult work for a scholar. It can be done in six months with present books. Just reading Mark Durie's The Third Choice, would give them a running start. He would know more than 90% of all Christian leaders.


    Once you get your knowledge, you need one more quality: courage. A leader would stand in public and discuss the truth of the facts of Islam. According to political correctness and multiculturalism, that would not be nice, since someone might disapprove or become upset. Nice people do not confront others; that is not nice. The modern Christian prefers the Gospel of Nice to the Gospel of Christ. As a result of the Gospel of Nice, the Christian leader does not need courage.

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    btw:

    where are the phony interfaith groups and CAIR condeming this attack


    oh that's right, when christians are persecuted by muslims or others,

    groups like Project Interfaith of Omaha Nebraska or the Tri-Faith Initiative

    and CAIR dont say 1 word about it.



    my response to them is: they are all nothing more than big phonies and hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post
    where are the phony interfaith groups and CAIR condeming this attack ...
    CAIR's brothers in Islam committed this massacre, this Haimacide.

    Al Qaeda, HAMAS. Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR are just different names for the same group: Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Osborne View Post
    CAIR's brothers in Islam committed this massacre, this Haimacide.

    Al Qaeda, HAMAS. Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR are just different names for the same group: Islam.


    sean, you are so right,

    but what is the excuse for the phony interfaith groups like Project Interfaith of Omaha Nebraska or the Tri-Faith Initiative who are saying nothing about this.

    oh, that's right, cause Interfaith groups dont believe Christians can be victims of persecution by muslims
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    Here's a commentary from Brent Bozell at CNSNews.com.

    Brent Bozell: War in the Mideast--On Christians

    Wednesday, January 05, 2011
    By L. Brent Bozell III

    (Commentary) - Our national media elite reviewed 2010 with great sorrow for how America has besmirched itself in the eyes of the world with its “seething hatred” of Muslims.

    CBS anchor Katie Couric announced on her Internet show that there wasn't enough evaluation of “this bigotry toward 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide” which was “so misdirected, and so wrong -- and so disappointing.” Couric even embarrassed herself by suggesting "Maybe we need a Muslim version of The Cosby Show." A ridiculous idea – unless it were to run every night instead of Couric’s lame half-hour “news” report.

    While Katie crinkles her face that anyone could march peacefully to oppose a mega-mosque two blocks from Ground Zero, here’s what does not upset Couric or her colleagues: Christians getting slaughtered and maimed in the Middle East by radical Islamists during the Christmas season. That story rates barely a media eyebrow lift.

    On Christmas Eve in Nigeria, AP reported that Danjuma Akawu, secretary of Victory Baptist Church in the city of Maidiguri, charged that a mob of about 30 men attacked his church on Christmas Eve, killing five people, including the pastor, two choir members rehearsing for a late-night carol service and two passersby. He said the attackers came in three cars and dragged the pastor out of his house before shooting him to death. They drove off after setting the church and pastor's house on fire. On the other end of the same city, a security guard was shot and killed at a Church of Christ.

    Network coverage? Katie Couric’s CBS aired nothing. Neither did ABC. NBC arrived on the story with three anchor briefs on the morning of December 27. PBS had one “NewsHour” mention that night. That’s it.

    In the first minutes of the new year in Alexandria, Egypt, an explosion ripped through a throng of worshipers shortly after services ended outside of a Coptic Christian church, slaughtering at least 21 people and wounding another 96. An eyewitness described the debris on the street: ''Hands, legs, stomachs. Girls, women and men.''

    Network coverage? ABC aired nothing. CBS and NBC each aired one brief anchor read. Some might say terror attacks in Africa with these “low” numbers of deaths are hardly a major news story, especially for TV networks that sparsely cover the globe. But when eight American tourists died in a bus crash in Egypt, CBS and NBC each aired full stories and NBC interviewed an American survivor on December 27. So it’s not an issue of sparse resources.

    And how many Muslims have been killed – or injured, or had their feelings hurt – at the Ground Zero mosque protests?

    This is a pattern. On Halloween, 58 were killed at a Catholic church in Baghdad, as Islamic radicals took church members hostage during Mass and executed the priests. ABC, CBS, and NBC aired little anchor briefs, yet managed to put the weight of scrutiny on Iraqi government forces for attempting to storm the church and defeat the radicals.

    On New Year’s Eve, the New York Times reported from Baghdad on a cluster of 10 bomb attacks in which two people were killed and 20 wounded, all of them Christians.

    One week after an Islamic extremist group vowed to kill Christians in Iraq, the bombs were placed near the homes of at least 14 Christian families around the city. The networks didn’t find that compelling, either.

    But ABC, CBS, and NBC combined to air 52 stories in one month – just on the evening newscasts – on the Ground Zero mega-mosque project.

    Despite their cachet as world-news aficionados, taxpayer-funded National Public Radio couldn’t locate news from Nigeria or Egypt as Christians were targeted and killed. NPR did find time for a story on how Israel’s immigration policies as Africans poured over the border from Egypt were violating human rights. NPR’s Nina Totenberg found the opportunity to apologize on PBS for using the term “Christmas party.”

    NPR finally caught up a bit on January 3, when evening anchor Robert Siegel talked to Los Angeles Times reporter Borzou Darzaghi about the church attack in Egypt. He asked: “Are Christians a new front for Islamist militants in the region?”

    Darzaghi replied that “increasingly, it does seem that way. And, you know, you had the Christmas Eve bombings in Nigeria, you've had these attacks, constant attacks, really, stepping up recently on Iraqi Christians in Mosul, in Baghdad. And there does seem to be this concerted campaign to target this very vulnerable, dwindling community.” The reporter concluded “it's considered a tragedy that this community is being whittled down.”

    It’s “considered” a tragedy? The American media’s coverage of this religious war underlines their own distance from the story, and how they’re somehow much more upset that some no-name, meaningless rabble-rouser in Florida became globally famous for threatening to burn one Koran in a trash can.

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    It’s “considered” a tragedy? The American media’s coverage of this religious war underlines their own distance from the story, and how they’re somehow much more upset that some no-name, meaningless rabble-rouser in Florida became globally famous for threatening to burn one Koran in a trash can.
    Wow! This is beyond disturbing, it just makes no sense!
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    Sean, you're certainly pulling details that didn't show up in the regular media reports.
    Meg,

    I was just advised that a report which begins very similarly to my own appeared on the InvestorsBusinessDaily.com website yesterday.

    Here' the report and link.

    The Meaning Of 'Allah Akbar!'

    Posted 01/05/2011 07:06 PM ET

    Political Correctness: "Allah Akbar!" cheered Egyptian Muslims while trampling the remains of dozens of Christians eviscerated in last Friday's suicide bombing. Yet we're assured that the phrase has nothing to do with Islam.

    Video taken at the gruesome scene outside a church in Alexandria, Egypt, clearly shows local rubberneckers whooping it up as they shout "Allah Akbar!" — Arabic for "Allah is greatest!" We heard the same celebratory chant from Palestinians and other Muslims around the world as the Twin Towers burned.

    The list of Islamic terrorists heard shouting the phrase before launching attacks is long. The 9/11 hijackers themselves screamed "Allah Akbar!" before crashing their planes. More recently, Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was heard crying "Allah Akbar!" before massacring 13 fellow soldiers at Fort Hood.

    Never mind all that, say apologists intent on separating Islam from terror. The expression is benign, they insist.

    "The guy who gets up on the plane and says 'Allah!' or whatever and then blows the plane up is not making a statement about his faith," American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee head James Zogby said last year, speaking to congressional staffers.

    Zogby says it's more an expression of frustration, like Christians blurting out their Savior's name after accidently hammering their thumb. "Somebody says 'Jesus Christ!' they're not making a statement of faith," he explained. "They're saying, I'm really mad right now."

    The comparison is absurd.

    Muslims say "Allah is greatest" to exalt their God. When Christians mutter "Jesus Christ," they in contrast are taking their Lord's name in vain. There's no corresponding "Jesus Christ is greatest!"

    Zogby wins the prize for post-9/11 fig-leafing. He made his remarks in August as a panelist at a little-known Hill forum on the "image of Muslims in America," sponsored by the Congressional Muslim Staff Association, or CMSA. A transcript of the event shows attendees clearly upset over polls showing growing numbers of Americans holding negative views about Islam.

    Other panelists included Salam al-Marayati, who was kicked off an anti-terror panel in 1999 by then-House Majority Leader Richard Gephardt for his inflammatory rhetoric. He now watches what he says.

    He and other "moderate" Muslim panelists said Americans have it all wrong, that they've been fed "misinformation." They maintained that Islam is "tolerant," that "democracy is at the heart of Islam," and that women who wear the Islamic headscarf are "liberated." They also claimed that the Ground Zero mosque is "actually intended to develop interfaith understanding."

    Who's misinforming whom?

    The moderator noted at the end of the program that CMSA is run by "Mr. J. Saleh Williams." Turns out the "J" stands for Jihad. Williams is a convert to Islam, and that's the name he chose. Of all the Arabic names, that's the one he picked.

    Recent reports reveal that these Muslim staffers over the years have invited a parade of radical Muslims to speak on the Hill, including terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki. Now a fugitive al-Qaida leader, he led prayers and spoke after 9/11 — and after privately counseling some of the "Allah Akbar!"-shouting hijackers.

    Such disinformation lulls Americans into a false sense of security about the threat from Islamism. That it is allowed to emanate from Congress is an outrage.

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    A Bedouin, former member of the Muslim Brotherhood, who got saved, whom God miraculously allowed to escape from an Islamic prison on the morning of his scheduled execution for blasphemy against Mohommad and Allah (because he accepted Jesus Christ as his Savior), and who is now a pastor in Western Canada, once told me "When you hear a Muslim shout, 'Allahu Akhbar' watch out! Somebody is going to die." He also confirmed that mosques are where people are radicalized, where evil acts of terror are planned, and where weapons and explosives are hidden. I figure he should know. He grew up in Sudan as a nomad, could quote the Qu'ran from memory before he was 12, was radicalized as a teen at the University of Khartoum, and spent years in the Muslim Brotherhood where he participated in attacks (some fatal) on Christians and apostates to Islam. His name, for anybody interested in looking him up on the web is Wagdi Iskander. And if you ever come across his testimony, watch/listen to it. What glory God gets from it!
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    Is this, then the delusion that unbelievers will fall for?

    2 Thessalonians 2:11

    For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
    Psalm 73:28

    28 But as for me, it is good to be near God.
    I have made the Sovereign Lord my refuge;
    I will tell of all your deeds.


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