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    At least 716 girls under the age of ten married off in Iran since 2009 - Jihad Watch

    At least 716 girls under the age of ten married off in Iran since 2009

    "The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)." -- Bukhari 7.62.88
    In Islam, Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur'an 33:21). Thus he is exemplary even in his marriage to a child: Muslims take this seriously and imitate Muhammad in this. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: "Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed."

    The Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl "a divine blessing," and advised the faithful: "Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house."

    Sharia Alert from the Islamic Republic of Iran: "At least 716 girls under the age of ten married off in Iran since 2009," from Persian2English, March 14 (thanks to Nicolai Sennels):
    Persian2English – Farshid Yazdani, a member of the Association for the Defense of Children’s Rights, has raised the flag on the increasing rate of the marriage of girls under the age of 10 in Iran. He stated that in 2009, 449 girls under the age of 10 were married off. The number increased to 716 cases in 2011.

    Yazdani added that the number of marriages for girls under 15 years of age has increased from 33,383 in 2006 to 35,931 in 2007, 37,996 in 2008, and 43,459 last year (please note that the dates are approximate as the statistics were given according to the Iranian calendar, which begins at the start of the Persian New Year).

    According to Yazdani, the rate of marriages of girls under the age of 15 has had a 45% increase compared to marriages in other age brackets. He added that these figures are based on the statistics released by Iran’s Civil Registrations Office, and they should set off alarms for social activists and policy makers.

    Translation by Siavosh Jalili for Persian2English
    Persian Source: Hamshahri Online
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    Do they actually consumate the marriages that young, or is it simply a binding contract? I'm not at all defending either idea, but I'm curious. I've heard of cultures where a marriage ceremony takes place while the girl or the couple is very much underage but they don't consumate the marriage for quite a few years.

    I've also heard of cultures where they arrange marriages at birth and girls are killed if they try and get out of that, but if the boy falls in love with someone else before the actual marriage takes place, they let him out of it, and the girl is considered "not as good" even if the guy has never met her.

    The whole "arranged marriage" thing never made sense to me at all, and I've met people from the Middle East who defend the idea and think we are crazy for marrying for love.

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    It breaks my heart. Nothing in the world makes me feel more helpless than seeing a child lost in a hopeless situation. My daughter and I have supported the Rapha House Ministries in Joplin, MO for a few years now. They help girls get out of the sex trade business, all over the world.

    I know these girls in Iran are not prositutes, but their families are usually paid well for their "hand" in marriage, and these girls are stuck in these situations for life. We can only pray for them, we can pray that somehow, someway they are taught the truth about our Lord, no matter their circumstances they can be redeemed out of any situation, even if that redemption doesn't come until death, IF they know the Lord.

    Today Dear Lord we pray for the children that are growing up in horrid situations, who are not allowed to know You. We pray dear Lord that they are allowed to hear the Hope You offer, pray they learn how much they are worth. We praise Your Glory and know that You are worthy, we know that Your hope is that none shall perish, we share Your hope. These children, their husbands, their children when they come, we pray they all find You. In Jesus precious name.

    OliveOilMom - unfortunately, I do not think these young girls are safe from the advances of their much older husbands. Some of these men are nothing more than pedophiles that believe they are allowed to have these children, because these children are nothing more than property. I read the book "A Thousand Splendid Suns" a few years ago (same author as "The Kite Runner"). The story follows two different muslim women, it's based in Afghanistan not Iran, but I doubt the two worlds are much different. It truly is terror that the girls live in, in those countries. Most just cannot even fathom the circumstances these girls grow up in and then are married into. They are treated worse than animals at times. A few lucky ones actually do know love in their lives, but most do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveOilMom View Post
    Do they actually consumate the marriages that young, or is it simply a binding contract? I'm not at all defending either idea, but I'm curious. I've heard of cultures where a marriage ceremony takes place while the girl or the couple is very much underage but they don't consumate the marriage for quite a few years.

    I've also heard of cultures where they arrange marriages at birth and girls are killed if they try and get out of that, but if the boy falls in love with someone else before the actual marriage takes place, they let him out of it, and the girl is considered "not as good" even if the guy has never met her.

    The whole "arranged marriage" thing never made sense to me at all, and I've met people from the Middle East who defend the idea and think we are crazy for marrying for love.
    Without a drought they consummate the marriages, they even do bad things to little boys also see the moved the kite Runner.

    The Kite Runner Movie – Official Site

    Why is ped o philia permitted in Islam? - Yahoo! Answers


    Muslims like to claim that Aisha had reached puberty by the time Muhammad married and had sex with her. However, they never provide verifiable proof that Aisha actually was pubescent when Muhammad married and had sex with her, but commonly claim traditions or cultural practices as proof. This is, of course, false as demonstrated by the hadiths and the commentary of one of Islam’s most famous hadith scholars, Imam Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar Al-'Asqalani, Commander of the Faithful in Hadith, Qadi of Egypt, and author of the celebrated commentary on Sahih Bukhari, Fateh al-Bari.

    To prove Aisha was pre-pubescent when Muhammad married and had sex with her, one has to understand Ibn Hajar’s explanation of the permissibility of doll-playing for pre-pubescent girls. Then applying this doll-playing exegesis to hadiths of Aisha getting married or when she first had sex with Muhammad, one can then demonstrate that she was pre-pubescent on these occasions.

    What I mean by 'pre-pubescence' is a short-hand for 'before a girl menstruates' or the Western medical term 'pre-menarchial'. {It is not the same or intended to be the same as the Western medical term "pre-pubescence" which is a specific Jargon for the stage before the sexual developmental stages of puberty.} This is to be consistent with the Islamic definition of 'puberty' which is when a girl begins to menstruates.


    Part 1: Proof that doll-playing girls are pre-pubescent

    This is what the great hadith scholar, Shaykh al-Islam Imam Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar Al-'Asqalani, Commander of the Faithful in Hadith, Qadi of Egypt, said regarding doll-playing and little girls:

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151
    Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)

    How do we know that Ibn Hajar made the doll-playing exegesis: “The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty”?

    Because of the reference to Fateh-al-Bari and because when we look at other translations of Bukhari 8:151, the same message is conveyed.

    On the authority of Aisha (RA), who said: I used to play with dolls in the presence of the Prophet (SAW). And I had girl-friends (playmates) who played along with me. They would hide (feeling shy) from him (SAW) whenever he entered. But, he (SAW) would send for them to join me and they would play with me. (Sahih Bukhari & Muslim)


    So yes, pedophilia is allowed in Islam.She was playing on the swing all day, now would an adult play with dolls and on the swing all day?

    Think about it! Any one who uses their brain knows Islam permits pedo*philia
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithInChrist View Post
    OliveOilMom - unfortunately, I do not think these young girls are safe from the advances of their much older husbands. Some of these men are nothing more than pedophiles that believe they are allowed to have these children, because these children are nothing more than property. I read the book "A Thousand Splendid Suns" a few years ago (same author as "The Kite Runner"). The story follows two different muslim women, it's based in Afghanistan not Iran, but I doubt the two worlds are much different. It truly is terror that the girls live in, in those countries. Most just cannot even fathom the circumstances these girls grow up in and then are married into. They are treated worse than animals at times. A few lucky ones actually do know love in their lives, but most do not.

    Thanks! did not read your post before my reply
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    They also have day long or hour long “Marriages” this is essentially a allowed form of prostitution in islam.

    TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Temporary Marriage (Prostitution)
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul&katie View Post
    They also have day long or hour long “Marriages” this is essentially a allowed form of prostitution in islam.

    TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Temporary Marriage (Prostitution)
    It's so repulsive, it turns my stomach. God sees all of this, every single sin, every crime against humanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveOilMom View Post
    The whole "arranged marriage" thing never made sense to me at all, and I've met people from the Middle East who defend the idea and think we are crazy for marrying for love.
    There are some merits to it, although what is going on here is definitely NOT the way it is intended.

    One of the arguments for arranged marriage is that the parents are better able to tell who would be a good match for their children. I mean, how many of you have seen people "in love" with somebody where when you went to the wedding, you kept the receipt for the gift? A bit of an exaggeration, but you get the idea. The parents, if they are interested in the best interests of their child (and not things like how much money they will get for marrying off [read: selling] their daughter), would not have their minds clouded with hormones. They would be able to better see the true character of the potential match.

    Even in the early days of the United States, marriages could have been considered in a way to be arranged. Remember back when it was common for a man to ask his girlfriend's father for permission to wed his daughter? Sure, not a true arranged marriage, but it has some elements to it, especially if the man were man enough to not marry if his girlfriend's father said no.

    Of course, such a system only works assuming the parents are agreeing because of things like character, ability, work ethic, stuff like that. If the marriage is arranged because of some misguided religious belief, like don't let a girl hit puberty in her parent's house, then yeah, it's a horrible system.

    The movie "Fiddler on the Roof" touched on these issues in the Jewish community. Early in the movie, One Tevia's oldest daughter (in the movie she looks to be in her late teens/early 20s - I'm not sure how old she was in the play) is matched with the town butcher, a man who is actually older than her father. So it's not quite as sick a 28 year old man marrying a 10 year old girl, but still a bit weird.

    So there are some merits to such a system, but it is definitely ripe for abuse. As a father, it would be nice if, once my sons are older, I could screen young women in the church and arrange a match with her parents so that I could make sure my son whom I hope to raise as a good Christian man, will marry a good Christian woman. But we just don't do things that way any more.

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    I think there is a big difference with arranged marriage with 16 years olds and those under ten. JS.
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    iSlam is evil.

    Just. Plain. Evil.



    God have mercy on those precious little children. They are brainwashed from the time they are born.

    muslims are turning to Christ in record numbers, or so people are saying. May it continue.


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