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    Ok, it's about persecution, but under godless communism, not godless islam. Should we change the heading of this category, or start a new one for non-islamic persecution?



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    A Door in the Darkness

    A Door in the Darkness

    Excerpt from Chapter 16

    From A Small Price to Pay

    This book tells the story of Mikhail (Misha) Khorev, a persecuted Russian pastor who gladly paid that "small price": sharing in the suffering of Jesus during Stalin's cruel reign. In the process, he demonstrated God's matchless love and endurance wherever God sent him.

    "...the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing,

    but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. "

    1 Corinthians 1:18



    1: Papa is Taken

    2: God provides

    4. Obey God?

    8. My Father

    Pages 178-181

    Being transported from temporary prison to temporary prison was not easy. The prisons were often overcrowded and filthy. Once I stayed in a prison that had over six inches of wet, slimy waste all over the floor. The prisoners had placed their soup bowls upside down to make a way to walk to the toilet from the bunks. People were sick and coughing, and it was a miracle that we did not all catch a disease and die from the horrible conditions.

    But it was not the bad food and the lack of sanitation that bothered me the most. It was the conduct of the prisoners themselves. Nothing was too vile or evil for them. Their language, their attitudes, and their actions were extremely difficult to bear. We were all crowded together—murderers, thieves, arsonists, and political prisoners. The toughest of the bunch were always out to assert themselves and bring the rest of us under their thumbs.

    One night, a strong young man was thrust into our already crowded cell. He was a loudmouth, filling our cell with his bragging.

    That evening, when I knelt to pray before I climbed into my bunk, I felt him watching me. When I was finished praying, he watched me as I lay down. Then he walked slowly over to me. In a loud voice, he taunted, “So! We have a holy man with us. Hmmm.” His tone was sinister, chilling me.

    He motioned another young man to him and said something in a low tone. Then he addressed me.

    “Where have you hidden your gold?”

    “I don’t have any gold,” I answered.

    “Ha!” He laughed loudly. “We don’t believe that. You are a holy man, and you were not put in prison for nothing! You must have
    embezzled church money.”

    I shook my head. “No, it is not for stealing that I am in prison. I am here because I preached about God.”

    “Yeah, right!” Cursing, the young man leaned over me menacingly. “Say what you will. No one is put in prison just for speaking about God. You are hiding the true reason you are in here. I know you priests! You grow fat from the coins that you extort from the people, and then you become rich.”

    I understood then that he thought I was an Orthodox priest. “I do not go to the Orthodox church. I am a minister, but we do not get salaries for the church work we do.”

    “We will see if you tell the truth,” he bragged. “You will tell us where you have the money hidden. We can search you in here and find it.”...

    The strong young man grabbed a towel and twisted it around my neck. “Tell us where the money is!” As his accomplice held on to the other end, they began twisting the towel and pulling it tight.

    I felt my throat being squeezed tightly. “Lord, if this is the way I am to die, then let me die. I pray for my wife and the boys. . .“ My lungs were screaming for air. The pressure around my throat was terrible. I lifted my hands toward my neck, but someone hit my arms away.

    I felt myself begin to black out. Then blackness swept over me....

    When I regained consciousness, I was still lying on my bunk with the towel around my neck. There was no one standing over me. I shifted my head and saw the group of men playing cards. I sat up and rubbed my neck.

    “Here is your towel,” I said, and tossed the instrument of my torture toward them. They looked at me, cursed, and resumed their game.

    Evidently they had searched me after I had passed out. At any rate, they did not molest me any further that night.

    The next evening, the same group approached me again. “Holy man, what can you do? Can you conduct services here in prison?”

    I looked at them. Were they mocking me? “Yes, I can sing and pray here in prison.”

    “Then begin. Show us what you can do.”

    I looked through the smoke-filled room. “How can I do anything when the air is filled with smoke?”

    It is common for prisoners to make chifir in prison. This is made with black tea, boiled until the thick goo is so concentrated it acts like a narcotic. To brew chifir, the prisoners burn their socks, underwear, or anything else they can get their hands on. The resulting smoke in the cell is suffocating.

    The leader yelled to the others. “Put out the fires. Stop smoking The holy man is going to speak.”

    Every eye was on me. The leader glared at them until, one by one, they put out their fires....

    I began to speak. Since I was fairly sure most of them knew the Lord’s Prayer, I spoke about the prayer, line by line. I was amazed how quiet everyone became. They all listened respectfully.

    All evening, I spoke about God. I told them how He loves us. I told them what God hates. In fact, I spoke until ten o’clock when the call for curfew made us go to our bunks.

    The next evening, they asked me to speak again. I spoke for four hours. Incredibly, this continued for three weeks. I knew that God had opened this door for me. Every day I wondered how I could possibly speak for the entire evening again. But each night, the Spirit was faithful and provided topics. I quoted the Scripture verses I knew and used them to introduce the subjects I spoke on.

    They didn’t all listen every evening. Some of the men lost interest and began to play cards or occupy themselves in other ways, but many of them listened. Sometimes I began a subject late in the evening just before curfew. Then, when we were told to go to bed, I would tell them I would continue the topic the next evening. This worked well to pique their curiosity and maintain their interest.

    Since this was a transit prison, prisoners were constantly taken out and new ones brought in. But every evening, the young man who had tortured me made everyone quiet down and gave me a space to speak. When I was finally transported to the next prison, many of the men spoke kindly to me.

    When I thought back to my first night in that cell, I understood that the torture I had gone through was a small price to pay for the privilege of preaching for three weeks to the ungodly men. I prayed that somehow the seed I had sown would bear fruit.


    "For our light affliction, which is but for a moment [in light of eternity], is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal."

    2 Corinthians 4:16-18

    In a world that is fast rejecting God's Word or twisting His Truth, we need to prepare for unthinkable challenges to our faith and families. This book will help us stand firm in Christ and gratefully "pay the small price" of suffering with Him!

    I suggest you order at least ten of these books and share with your friends and relatives, so that they, too, may be encouraged and equipped for the times ahead. (That's what I did)

    This wonderful book is available through Lighthousetrails.com

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    I really don't know how reading about other peoples suffering can give me strength.

    Honestly it only frigthens me.

    Now i'm not saying i would give up Jesus to not suffer. I already have had some experience with persecution.

    I can't cope with reading about people being beaten and tortured etc.. while in jail. It doesn't inspire me.

    Many years ago I still used to buy the odd Women's magazine and they would have inspirational stories of how people got through various trials of cancer. Some stories of those who battled cancer a number of times and then lost. You know the human interest stories.

    When I got cancer myself I can tell you I certainly found my mind going back to these inspirational stories to help me cope.

    The Bible tells us not to worry about what to say when we are dragged before authorities for our Faith.

    MT 10:17 "Be on your guard against men; they will hand you over to the local councils and flog you in their synagogues. 18 On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.


    No amount of preparation would help me have the right words to say. If God doesn't give them to me I would be a blabbering mess. Probably screaming "have mercy, have mercy" or something like that.

    To me the only way to cope with any future persecution is to cling to Jesus and keep reading God's Word. Just reading this excerpt made my heart drop through my feet.



    2TI 3:10 You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance, 11 persecutions, sufferings--what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them. 12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13 while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, 15 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.


    If I watch people being persecuted my heart may fail. If I keep in the Word of God I might make it through.

    I'll give this book and others like it a miss because I'm stressed enough about things happening in this world and my life as it is. I can do without any thoughts of possible future persecution. Oh I'm aware it could happen (hopefully not before the Rapture) I just don't need to read of what happened to others.

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    Unless The Lord comes and takes us to Him soon, the way things are going we in the comfortable convenient West will experience how the siblings in the rest of the world have been living (and dying). The time to prepare is now, not in the cattle car on the way to Auschwitz.

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    I have read some of the stories from Jesus Freaks, and my pastor has told others. I always marvel at the courage that these people of God go through for God. I pray that I am never in their situations. I am afraid that I would fail my Lord.

    In each case the Lord is somehow there to give them strength and hope. Working miracles sometimes that speak of Divine Power given to those being persecuted. These stories do somehow give me hope that God is real and that nothing escapes God's notice.
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    Your post was very interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by micah719 View Post
    Unless The Lord comes and takes us to Him soon, the way things are going we in the comfortable convenient West will experience how the siblings in the rest of the world have been living (and dying). The time to prepare is now, not in the cattle car on the way to Auschwitz.
    First of all I don't think that we will see ourselves dragged off to concentration camps like they did in WW2 before the Tribulation. Well I hope we do not because I think the Rapture will be very soon.

    Second you missed my point.

    I am not encouraged by reading how others managed to live through or die as Christians who will not reject Jesus in such places as jails or death camps. What they had to face only made me feel dread.

    I did say in my post I read God's Word and I am aware of a persecution to come. My Faith and Trust in God is what will sustain me not somebody elses experiences. I did say that God has to give me the strength because I cannot create a brave and bold heart on my own.

    So as I said in my earlier post. If I end up in jail for Jesus God is going to have to do a miracle in me and I am being honest here. I hope some others who have read the chapter and think I could not cope will get some comfort from the fact they are not the only ones thinking that.

    No! We might not be all calm, cool and collect, looking to share the gospel with people who have just molested us with murderous intent. That is fine we don't need to be Jesus. We only have to respond to God at the level of Christian maturity we currently have and be faithful or obedient as best we can. We don't have to convert the whole Jail and it's wardens just do not toss aside your faith. Do not deny Jesus and call out to God to help you, if in the midst of this God helps you to be a witness for Him fine but if you need to cry and sit in a screaming heap then do so. We aren't perfect in Christ yet and it's OK if you lose it, Jesus will forgive your weakness.

    No where in the Bible does it say we all have to be Super Christians. Just faithful in our walk with Him at whatever level you are at in your Chrisitan maturity. Also I would rather be honest and say "hey the idea of persecution is a scarey thing" than to lie and pretend I am some Super Spiritual person which I am not and probably wouldn't be through any kind of really bad jail experience.


    Reading other peoples persecution stories will not prepare me they just make me have some fear about the prospect IF IT ever Happens to me or my family.

    God has told us to not worry about it that he will help us when the time comes what to say to those who persecute us. God promises to take us through whatever we have to face. How I face this kind of persecution I really won't know until I have to go through it.

    2CO 12:7 To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ's sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannah View Post

    I am not encouraged by reading how others managed to live through or die as Christians who will not reject Jesus in such places as jails or death camps. What they had to face only made me feel dread.
    Makes me feel dread too and exposes me as a coward. The people who go thru this are true heroes. I really don't know how I would react under such circumstances...not to mention not doing the Lord's work daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WKUHilltopper View Post
    Makes me feel dread too and exposes me as a coward. The people who go thru this are true heroes. I really don't know how I would react under such circumstances...not to mention not doing the Lord's work daily.
    That is why we need Jesus see the verse I quoted by Paul. He points out in his weakness he needs the power of Christ.

    We are weak and that is nothing to be ashamed of, it is the Truth. Now you have established you are weak then cling even more to Jesus.

    EPH 3:14 For this reason I kneel before the Father, 15 from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name. 16 I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18 may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge--that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
    We are made strong through HIS SPIRIT into our Inner Being and often we are not given the Strength to go through something until we have to face it.

    Repeating the Apostle Pauls words again.

    2CO 12:7 To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness."Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ's sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
    It is natural to fear pain and torture and persecution. We cannot face these things in our own Strength we need Christs. Our weakness allows Christ to be shown to others because it is only by the power of God that we can have the strength to face the things we fear and glorify God.


    Here are some scriptures showing us that we are to lean on Him for our strength:-

    1TI 1:12 I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he considered me faithful, appointing me to his service.

    PHP 4:13 I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

    1TI 1:12 I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he considered me faithful, appointing me to his service.

    2TI 4:16 At my first defense, no one came to my support, but everyone deserted me. May it not be held against them. 17 But the Lord stood at my side and gave me strength, so that through me the message might be fully proclaimed and all the Gentiles might hear it. And I was delivered from the lion's mouth.

    1PE 4:7 The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray. 8 Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. 9 Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling. 10 Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms. 11 If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God. If anyone serves, he should do it with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.
    The Lord is our strength when we are weak and frightened.

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