United Nations Launch First small arms Control "Standards"

[Littlejoe]

NEWTOWN, Conn. — In late August, an umbrella organization of 23 separate U.N. agencies known as the Coordinating Action on Small Arms (CASA) adopted the first portion of International Small Arms Control Standards (ISACS). The ISACS text is made up of 33 separate modules, some 800 pages in total. So far, eight modules have been adopted as the result of a process begun in the spring.

An Experts Reference Group (ERG), which included a small number of professionals with firearms experience, including Richard Patterson, managing director of the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI), provided constructive criticisms on the first draft text of these modules. A second draft, however, revealed that numerous issues identified by the ERG had not been addressed, a fundamental violation of the legitimate standard-setting process.


In response, SAAMI prepared a detailed minority report that Patterson submitted to the ISACS project coordinator covering a range of these issues.

“Sadly, SAAMI is forced to conclude that ISACS has and will continue to fail in the creation of clear and effective guidance because of breaches in standards-setting protocols, and dogmatic adherence to unsubstantiated assumptions, agendas and biases,” Patterson said in a March statement before a U.N. committee working on the matter.

In another statement delivered at an Aug. 29 U.N. conference at the U.N., Patterson described ISACS as “. . . nothing more than a platform for adoption and pseudo-legitimization of the ‘wish lists’ of special interest groups.”




“Advocates of gun control make two fundamental assumptions: First, that more guns will equal more violence and, second, that more gun control will equal less violence. Both of these assumptions are confounded by history and by facts. They are simply not true. Countries with high rates of gun ownership have low rates of violence and countries in which civilian ownership of guns is banned have high rates of violence. Ignoring these facts can cause harm by removing the means by which people protect themselves, their families and their communities — and thereby protect their rights to self-determination.”
Read more: United Nations Launches First Small Arms Control "Standards" | The Daily Caller

[Littlejoe]

"When governments fear the people,there is liberty.

When the people fear the governments ,there is tyranny.

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is,as last rsort, to protect themselves

against tyranny in government."

- Thomas Jefferson

[Joe B]

Not too sure I agree on the gun control statement.

We in Britain who have long controlled the issuing of firearms have a very low incidence of gun crime.

[Littlejoe]

Controlling The World through Gun Control

Isn't it clear why our forefathers signed the Second Admendment into Law?They Knew exaclty what is was like to live in slavery under a dictator who disarrmed the masses and left no means for resistence.

This new parliment ,which was made up of those that favored the Monarchy,placed Charles II on the throne..
Charles disbanded the army,except for those that were loyal to the Crown.Immedeiately,Charles began to disarm any person who was judged dangerous to his empire!This left the standing armies in power to protect his kingdom and without the system of universial armament,ended the ability of English citizens to defend their individual liberties and forced them into slavery.

The second Admendment

"A well regulated militia ,being necessary to the security of a free state,the right of the people to keep and bear arms,shall not be infringed."


Our forefathers also believed that every American citizen to throw off any such government or dictator and provide new leadship for the future of this nation..

For this cause our forefathers Pledged their"..Lives fortunes and sacred honor." to declaration of Independence ,the constitution of The United States and The second Admendment --thus protecting the right of every individual United States citizen to keep and bear arms.They understood there was only one reason why any government or dictator would seek to disarm the population...Absolute Control with no means of resistence!

Disarming the United States

Gun Control in the United States was virtually unheard of until the early nineteen hundreds.Since then ,at the federal government level ,three sets of gun contrl laws have been passed ,upon which most disarmanment lawsuits are founded : (1) National firearms Act of 1934 placed huge tax on machine guns and other "gangster" weapons.(2) The Gun control act Act of 1968 made it illegal to purchase a rifle or shotgun by mail order (President Kennedy was shot with a mail order rifle),and called for stricter licesning requirements for dealers and further detailed individuals restricted from purchasing a firearm.(3) The Brady handgun violence protection Act of 1993 required a five day waiting period and background check for the sale of handguns as well as requiring the establishment of a national Iinstant Criminal background check system,,,,,

Barack Obama
To everyones surprise,during his first term,President Obama has been fairly mute on the issue of gun control.However,all one has to do is at his previous voting record and satements on the issue prior to taking office, to see why everyone is concerned.According to www.ontheissues.org ,these are the important ones:

1998- voted to ban semi automatics and add more posseion restrictions

2000-co-sponosred bill to limit purchashes to one gun per month

2004-Claimed Bush erred in failing to renew the assault weapons ban

2005- Voted NO on prohibting lawsuits on gun manaufactures

[dave-o]

Not too sure I agree on the gun control statement.

We in Britain who have long controlled the issuing of firearms have a very low incidence of gun crime.

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.


Read more: The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. | Mail Online

[Joe B]

Come on, please don't believe the numbers you read in newspaper articles that seek to sensationalize and distort the truth.
Check Wikipedia and you will see that violent crime in the US (2009) was 3,680 per 100,000 ( Uk 2,034) but even then you need to be very careful indeed in understanding the basis that was used in producing these numbers.
Also further down the article you use you will see that as far as murders go, in S.Africa there are 20,000 per year compared to the UKs 921.

Remember too that I was only speaking about gun crime and believe me the UK is way below the US on that one.

I have spent most of my working life as a senior accountant. I was finishing off the year end accounts for one of my companies when the Managing Director walked by asked how we had done and then said 'what do the statistics say'? I replied, 'What would you like them to say'?

Don't ever put your faith in statistics unless you fully understand how they were put together as they are the most abused numbers out there.

[Noah Cotterill]

Come on, please don't believe the numbers you read in newspaper articles that seek to sensationalize and distort the truth.
Check Wikipedia and you will see that violent crime in the US (2009) was 3,680 per 100,000 ( Uk 2,034) but even then you need to be very careful indeed in understanding the basis that was used in producing these numbers.
Also further down the article you use you will see that as far as murders go, in S.Africa there are 20,000 per year compared to the UKs 921.

Remember too that I was only speaking about gun crime and believe me the UK is way below the US on that one.

I have spent most of my working life as a senior accountant. I was finishing off the year end accounts for one of my companies when the Managing Director walked by asked how we had done and then said 'what do the statistics say'? I replied, 'What would you like them to say'?

Don't ever put your faith in statistics unless you fully understand how they were put together as they are the most abused numbers out there.

Agreed. I took statistics in college. It's easy to forge them. Take everything with a grain of salt. It's more tasty that way anyway

[Littlejoe]

No wonder President Obama and Mrs.Clinton have signed on to support this treaty.If ratified in the US Senate ,it would accomplish overnight what they have been trying to do for years...Place stricter gun control laws on each and every United States citizen!

It is now obvious That Barack Obama ,Hiliary Clinton ,Joe Biden and Eric Holder ,among others ,are willing to sidestep the constitution of The United states and give control to The United Nnations for universal disarmanment of every person on Earth,to Achieve one common Goal..........

Global Governance

What does the United Nations really hope to to gain from an International arms treaty??

CONTROL! CONTROL! CONTROL!

As an institution of global governance since it's inception,the United Nations 'founding members have dreamed of a globalized world where all Nations would operate under of international law.The only way for that to happen would be for them to universally disarm the planet ,which allow them to stategiacally position their "FULLY armed" UN peacekeeping forces around the world to "keep the peace".


With this in mind ,the United Nations Charter ,which was drafted by Alger Hiss (a convicted communist spy) and signed in 1945, gives the UN Security council the responsibilty of, with the help of a Military Staff Committee ,the regulation and possible disarmament of the world's weapons .hence the arms Treaties!!

If these are ratified by the US Senate ,the United Nations and President Obama would have accomplished the goal of by -passing the Second Admendment to impliment stricter gun control laws on American citizens
The United Nations does not have a Second Admenment because it is diametrically opppsed to the idea of arming Citizens.?


Absolute CONTROL with no means of resistence

The Bible prophesies World Government

According to the bible,there will be a world government established on earth before the Second Coming of Jesus.It will control the world Politically ,religiously ,and economically..This global government will eventually be ruled by one man..

The Antichrist
Revelation 13..


The world better wake up


Was peace the reason the world empires of Babylon ,Media-Persia, Greece and Rome conquered their adversaries and turned them into Slaves??No!

Maybe peace is what Adolph Hitler was thinking when he disarmed the Jews and led them to the gas Chamber ??No!

Perhaps it was peace that motivated Mao Tse -tung and Joseph Stallin to kill millions ?No!

Is it possible that peace was behind the disarmamnent of England ,which led to Slavery of our forefathers ?No!

There is one reason in history for Universal disarmamnet of citizens.Absolute control with no means of resistance...

[UCT]

When Obummer is reelected, he will make a push to control both houses. He will get his wish. Once the Democrats control it all, there will be a change of heart and watch how quickly gun ownership will be banned. Todays conspiracy theory is tomorrows headline.