Secret plan to Create 'super- powerful EU president'

[Littlejoe]

A covert group of EU foreign ministers has drawn up plans for merging the jobs currently done by Herman Van Rompuy, president of the European Council, and Jose Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission.

The new bureaucrat, who would not be directly elected by voters, is set to get sweeping control over the entire EU and force member countries into ever-greater political and economic union. Tellingly, the UK has been excluded from the confidential discussions within the shady “Berlin Group” of Europhile politicians, spearheaded by German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle

Opponents fear the plan could create a modern-day equivalent of the European emperor envisaged by Napoleon Bonaparte or a return to the Holy Roman Empire of Charlemagne that dominated Europe in the Dark Ages. They are concerned that David Cameron’s coalition Government is doing nothing to prevent the sinister plot. The secret talks were uncovered by Independent Labour peer Lord Stoddart of Swindon.

This is a plot by people who want to abolish nation states and create a United States of Europe,” he said. “The whole thing is barmy. These people are determined to achieve their final objective.

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: EU plot to scrap Britain

[dave-o]

Seems that it's not very secret.

[Littlejoe]

The EU plan is to get a handful of Nations to rule.Get Rid of Capitalist and re-place them with Socialist.France's Sarkozy is the first leader to be removed,then Britains Brown. Herman Van Rompuy wants Tony Blair to be EU president...

[Littlejoe]

Funny they mention these because Napoleon and the Holy Roman Empire were attempts at reestablishing Rome. It seems the one worlders aren't able to keep much secret anymore. They've become very brazen as they get ever closer to realizing a very long term effort,The new world order know their moment has arrived,and they don't care who knows.

[Littlejoe]

I am more concerned about attempts to cede power to the United Nations. I believe Europe will implode because of the debt of most of it's members.

People used to believe that the AntiChrist would come from a revived Roman Empire because the Second Temple was destroyed by a Roman General, but while they were Roman Legions, and thus Roman citizens, under Titus. as Shorbat (God's War on Terror: Islam, Prophecy and the Bible) explains in Chapter 76 (pages 347-354) that does not mean that they came from Europe. Titus lead the Eastern Legions of the Roman Empire and the Legions were Legions XV Apollinaris (from Syria), Legion V Macedonica (from Serbia and Bulgaria), Legion XII Fukminata (from Eastern Turkey and Syria), and Legion X Fretensis (from Turkey and Syria). So most of the troops were Arabs, Syrian, or Turks. Daniel 9:26 does speak of "the people of the prince" (Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.) but that does not mean they were European, just the ultimate authority over them (the King, not the prince) was in Rome. So the prince who is to come (the AntiChrist) may not be a European. He could be a Turk, Syrian, Serbian, or Bulgarian. I believe he will be a Turk.

In this upcoming War with Iran and the islamic armies.Islam is going to be hit hard ,maybe not destroyed but so weakend,thus will arise the EU in full..The antichrist will not be a islamic messiah,but a man coming out of the EU...Stay away from Shobats teachings....

[mattfivefour]

Don, in case you did not read it, here is an excellent article on the topic "Will the AC be a Muslim" by Dr. David Reagan, with input from Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum and Daymond Duck. David makes a sound scriptural case for his conclusion— http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/d...#post841953167.

[Landonholt]

All I think we safely know is that he will be a direct descendent of Esau

[donsingleton]

Don, in case you did not read it, here is an excellent article on the topic "Will the AC be a Muslim" by Dr. David Reagan, with input from Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum and Daymond Duck. David makes a sound scriptural case for his conclusion— http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/d...#post841953167.

I cannot seem to access David's post

[mattfivefour]

Hmmm ... well never mind, here is a direct link to Dr. Reagan's article: The Antichrist: Will he be a Muslim?

[Littlejoe]

The problem with this teaching that the AC will be islamic is they are only seeing whats happening in the now !!Islam has risen to be a mighty world power over these last 10,12 years.But In this coming war of Civilization's between Islam and the west is that after this massive War Iran and islam wants,islam will be greatly decimated ,or at least severly crippled and a non-factor in last day's world events.
Then after this war we will really see the 10 nation world Government system rise in Europe and that European man rise to take control.
Im not saying Shobat nor Joel Richardson are wrong,they are just seeing the world conditions as the look now,not what it will look like after this war....The Bible clearly says the power shifts to Europe in the last days...