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    I have found it very interesting to research and better understand the significant commonality between ceremonies and beliefs among mormonism, masonry, and Islam (particularly variants of Islam like Baha'i and Sikhism).

    While the internet is replete with conspiracy discussions which can go to extremes, fundamentally there is solid information regarding the many common items underlying the belief system for these systems.

    When you begin to look at the adherent numbers for these various beliefs and consider them together, it is a very significant portion of the world population. Masonry is an interesting extension in that it appears to be a logical vehicle to "infect" Christian churches with elements of this belief system.

    I found these connections interesting in the underlying connections which would be useful to those seeking to create one world government.

    http://blogs.uvu.edu/newsroom/2011/0...ism-and-islam/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Freemasonry
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    personally I am not too concerned as I believe the unification will happen after the rapture. I also believe that the rapture will result in the "Star Trek" moment that will allow this to happen.

    For those of you unfamiliar with the "Star Trek" moment, it is considered to be WWIII and after that humanity unites to overcome thier problems.........

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    Nothing that occurs on items like this really concerns me, except for the hurt I feel from folks being deceived. In terms of watching the activities though, I firmly believe that only through a Christian scriptural perspective can things be understood.

    We see underlying trends and bits and pieces of stories which fit perfectly with Christian eschatology. Even "odd" news stories don't have to throw us off balance as followers of Christ as He warned us of the fact that they would be increasing. It is nothing more than the budding of the tree or our ability to understand what a red sky in the morning or evening indicates. The caution that we must use is that we are viewing events and occurrences through scriptural lenses and not allowing these events into the actual scripture which forms our viewing (our lenses should only be strengthened through continued time in scripture). I like the glasses reference in that as we grow in scriptural understanding that the events of the world are viewed with more clarity over time. Young Christians (not by age but by their maturity in Christ) must be cautious as discernment is developed over time and we have a history replete with individuals incorporating external things into scriptures.

    Our understanding of how these things fit into the true Biblical explanation of God's plan though is very useful in being prepared to witness and explain the hope we have. Only Christians are anchored to the Rock of Christ which will permit us to deal with the turbulence of this world and this will be a light to others.

    I am so thankful that I have a perfectly prepared "evacuation plan" completed by the Creator of the all things seen and unseen.
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    My husband was a Mason. He has the Islam Jacket, the incredibly dorky hat with the tassle and a Bible that all of his "brotherhood" signed. He joined the Masons when he was in his early 20's because his father urged his brother and him to participate. I have tried talking to him about the secrets of Masonry and the Illuminati...he says is was simply a bunch of old men that got together to look at strippers and drink heavily. I told him, no those were the peeons that financed the real gig the higher ups had going on. He just shakes his head in disbelief. Whatever, I too think we will all be out of here before the one world alliance...union...confederation...whatever they decide to call it.

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    After I looked into the connection between Mormons and Jehovah's Witness, I'm more aware of why Romney is a major concern for our country's future. Scary stuff if I didn't know the TRUTH.

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    I have found it very interesting to research and better understand the significant commonality between ceremonies and beliefs among mormonism, masonry, and Islam (particularly variants of Islam like Baha'i and Sikhism).
    It is no wonder that they share so many things. They have the same infernal founder--Satan--who apparently isn't the brilliant innovator he fancies himself to be. More retreads of the same failed ideas. Be careful studying lies though--some may infect your thinking unawares.
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    I posted (#3)at this thread. Re-posting so as amplify my contempt for the masonic orders.

    Albert Pike, Masons, Three World Wars
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    With Catholics moving ever closer to ties with Islam (built to a large extent on the veneration of Mary), there is certainly a critical mass of religions moving towards joint ground. Unfortunately that joint ground is not the Foundation of Jesus Christ.

    Catholicism & Islam: Ties That Bind | thebereancall.org
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    When the "Christian" mysticism is added into the mix, it gets really scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennO View Post
    I posted (#3)at this thread. Re-posting so as amplify my contempt for the masonic orders.

    Albert Pike, Masons, Three World Wars
    I agree, Freemasonry is certainly deserving of scorn. The "brother's" allegiance is first to each other, their god, and their goals. Whether your Freemason brother is in, America, Iran, Iraq, Russia, etc, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if they are muslim, buddhist, "christian," or most any other religion. When you consider that many of our leaders have ties to Freemasonry, it's a great concern. With that said, I know that there are many low level freemasons who really aren't fully aware of what they're supporting, and some are in fact our Christian brothers. I would have to think that the true Christian freemason would have to certainly be a babe in Christ, because for someone with even a basic knowledge of Biblical doctrine, you wouldn't have to go very far into the rituals to realize that you're becoming part of something that is opposed to scripture. If you have freemason world leaders playing "chess" to achieve their goals, who do you think the pawns are? I'm an American and I'm thankful for this country, and yes even at it early days freemasonry was here. Just as God used the heathen Romans to serve his purpose, he used the corrupt freemasons as well. We do have real enemies that would like to strip us of our prosperity, and our religious and personal freedom. Many of these enemies are outside of our great land, some of them are right here. The ties between Mormonism, Masonry and Islam shouldn't be ignored.
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    Personally, based on my research, I do not believe there are active ties between Freemasonry, Mormonism and Islam. I believe that the relationship only exists due to the foundation of the three religions, (Yes, masonry IS a religious practice though most of its lower order members would neither recognize nor accept that.) I think tht those who believe there are active ties are overly influenced by conspiracists who believe that congruence indicates confraternity.

    Mormonism in its rituals parallels masonry in its rituals because Joseph Smith, who was a Mason, incorporated the Masonic mysteries into the religion he invented. This was to lend an air of credibility and substance to a bizarre set of beliefs that he stole from a book by Ethan Smith called "View of the Hebrews 1825". He already knew that men were gullible from his days as a "money-digger" and a "glass-looker" (both mixes of occultism and financial scamming). And he proved right. His religion gave him, as its founder, the respectability and power he had always lacked, not to mention money and an exalted lifestyle.

    Freemasonry was a secret organization with occultic rituals tied to a corruption of Christian beliefs, initiated by Satan.

    Mormonism was a religion with secret occultic rituals stolen form the Masons with their twisting of Christian beliefs, initiated by Satan.

    Islam is a religion with occultic roots inspired by a twisting of early Christian beliefs and a rejection of pagan practices in the Roman churches, initiated by Satan.

    The last three words, in particular, of each of the preceding sentences explains the congruence in many of the practices and beliefs of these three systems.

    Now add Roman Catholicism itself, which both inspired Masonry in imitation of its occult practices and inspired Islam by a rejection of those same practices, and you have a formidable foundation for a one world religion.

    As I have said I do not believe there are any active ties between these four religions. But, based on their Satanic origins, there does not need to be any active ties for the danger to exist. Their roots all trace to the same demonic creature, the Prince of Evil, and having the same basis they will naturally be able to be melded into a One Word Religion when the time and the "one who is to come" comes.

    There are just over seven billion people in the world today. In extremely general terms, two and a quarter billion claim some type of Christianity (nominal or otherwise, either protestant, RCC, or Orthodox and including cults such as Mormonism and JWs), one and two-thirds billion are Islamic, one and a half billion are irreligious (that is to say atheist, agnostic, or secular humanist), one billion are Hindu, half a billion are Buddhist. Take out the true believers in Jesus Christ and you still have a huge number of nominal Christians (primarily members of the RCC, plus the emergents, the religious humanists, and the in-name-only protestants who occupy many of today's church pews, plus all the Christian-oriented cults such as Mormon and JW) who will in the interests of ecumenism follow neo-evangelical and RCC leadership into a pan-religious tolerance with Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists. We are already seeing that. The RCC and Islam have a formal, ongoing interfaith dialog. The World Council of Churches actively promotes ecumenism and tolerance while seeking common ground on which the various faiths can cooperate. Already even Christian organizations are marginalizing Christians who insist on the primacy of Scripture and behaviors drawn only from it. Christians who stand up for gospel Truth are more and more finding themselves on the wrong side of society and, increasingly, on the wrong side of the law ... not, at this point, the criminal law but human rights and civil law.

    We are right to be concerned as we see these things all in various stages of development. But our concern should be to proclaim the gospel, to stand as beacons of light in a darkening world. The world, of course, sees itself as brightening as becoming more tolerant, more educated, more enlightened. Fundamentalist (by this I mean Bible-believing born-again Christians) are increasingly seen as dark blots, resistant and obstructionist to the higher plane the world is headed to. The world sees in the light of its own reasoning and it seems good. But their light is false. It ignores, rejects, scoffs at, the light of God. The world indeed has a light, but it is not the light the masses think. Jesus said, "If then the light that is in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!" Indeed! God tells us that "He deprives of intelligence the chiefs of the earth’s people and makes them wander in a pathless waste. They grope in darkness with no light, and He makes them stagger like a drunken man." (Job 12:24-25) He also says, "The light of the wicked goes out ... the light in his tent is darkened ... he is driven from light into darkness." (Job 18:5,6,18 NASB) And He warns, "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight ... as a tongue of fire consumes stubble and dry grass collapses into the flame, so their root will become like rot and their blossom blow away as dust; for they have rejected the law of the LORD of hosts and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel." (Isaiah 5:20-21,24 NASB)

    Through the great apostle Paul, god tells us that not he, not themselves, but "the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." This is a terrible indictment! And if the "god of this world" can blind people so that they cannot see the light of the gospel, then what hope is there for them? The same Hope there was for us— Jesus Christ. He opened our blind eyes, He can open ANY blind eyes. But, changing metaphors, for the seed of the gospel to take root and not be snatched off the surface of the ground, the soil must be prepared. The Holy Spirit is the preparer of men's hearts. Our role is to pray for the lost and the blind. Pray that the soil of men's hearts to whom you will speak, is softened and prepared. Pray that God lead you to those whom He wills. Pray that God give you both the opportunity to share His gospel with them and the wisdom to know how with each individual.

    But know that many will reject your message. It is not you they are rejecting but your message. So do not be offended. Their rejection is actually of Jesus. But it is important that you take them the gospel of Jesus Christ, nonetheless. "Why?", you may ask. "If they are going to reject it why must they hear it?" Well, first of all you do not know who will reject it. But, secondly, the gospel has a two-fold purpose. It saves ... and it judges. The very same gospel that can save a man in this life will judge him in the next. Man can either be saved by acceptance of God's good news of salvation in Jesus Christ now or he will be judged by that refusal in the future. That is why it is so important that we share the gospel.

    I have wandered far afield from the topic of the OP and from the focus of the reply I began a few paragraphs ago. But it all seemed to flow. And it is why we need not be caught up in trying to discover what ties may exist between groups. that is a red herring. There are no active and overt ties between Mormonism, Masonry, and Islam per se. But their creator is Satan; in that alone is their commonality. And the day is coming when Old Splitfoot's efforts in encouraging man to believe his lies will pay off in not only a One World Religion but a One World Government, at which point the world will think it has hit the zenith of enlightenment. Instead, it will discover that it has sunk to the nadir of darkness. And "then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be."

    1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
    2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
    3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
    4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
    5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
    6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
    7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
    8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
    9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
    10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
    11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it? (Joel 2:1-11)

    Share the gospel, dear ones! Pray for the lost! May we each determine to surrender to Christ daily so that the Holy Spirit can bring our lives into line with our profession of faith in Christ, in order that our lives will bear witness to the truth of what we say: "God is. Jesus is real. The new birth is a fact. We ARE new creatures. Look and see what Christ has done in us and for us. And His promises are not just for now but for all eternity! Look to Him and be saved!"
    Dearly beloved, Jesus has said to us, "My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples." (John 15:8 NASB) Let us so prove.
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    Rock Solid teaching my Brother!!!
    Consider the words of Omar M. Ahmad, founder of CAIR: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant." ... "The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America , and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."

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    Mattfivefour, I agree with GlennO that your teaching is solid. Whether or not the ties between Mormonism, Islam, and Freemasonry are active or not, I don't know. I agree that conspiracy theories are plentiful over the internet, and that can cloud our thinking. You strike a nice balance in your words. Are there conspiracies? I believe so. Are the leaders of the free world colluding with the dictatorships of the world? No! I don't believe so. Are the leaders of the democratic nations conspiring together for a new world order? That's a different question. There is a goal of the Masons for the creation of a new world order, and their allegiance, if I'm to believe what is in their rites, is to their fraternity and their cause first, above family and country. Freemasons are worldwide, and if you were to go into a lodge in, for example, Spain, you would probably find the Koran rather than a Bible. I believe that some of the far out conspiracy theories are born from our enemies abroad, who are trying to foment political unrest in our country. One has only to follow the stories of our soldiers showing compassion for their enemies or read the words from our own government expert, Sean Osborne to see that we can still have confidence that there are God fearing brothers and sisters within our government. We must defend ourselves as a nation, our interests, and our friends such as Israel. In doing so we are not pawns. That is not to say that we are not pawns in other areas, as I believe that we are being played and manipulated.
    Thanks for your words, brother.
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