New EU treaty includes $666bn permanent bailout fund

[Forgiven]

Britain alone in opposing EU treaty changes

MWC News
Friday, 09 December 2011

The European Union has said that 26 of its 27 member countries are open to joining a new treaty tying their finances together to solve the euro crisis. Only Britain remains opposed, creating a deep rift in the union.

Mario Monti, Italy's premier, regretted Britain's decision, saying it faced "certain isolation" in the immediate future.

With the euro already down against the dollar and stocks hit hard from New York to Tokyo, Prime Minister Donald Tusk of current EU chair Poland had warned beforehand that failure to convince Britain to sign up would mean the "coffin" for post-World War II integration of the EU.

After repeated warnings from London, the decision to change track came after Cameron demanded paybacks such as a veto on EU financial regulation that partners were not prepared to grant.

After nearly 10 hours of talks running into the early hours of Friday morning, they also decided that the currency bloc's future permanent bailout fund, the ESM, would be capped at $666bn, as Germany had insisted.

Britain alone in opposing EU treaty changes

[micah719]

Eurodollars, US Dollars, or Pounds Sterling? Relax, there is no temple in Jerusalem, and the two witnesses are still hidden. Just some bureacrap tweaking our chains.

[Forgiven]

Oh, I'm relaxed, Micah


It just seemed odd the monetary cap insisted upon is exactly $666. Maybe it's just me, but I would think changing the treaty would be more formal than comedic.

[A24AW]

Oh, I'm relaxed, Micah


It just seemed odd the monetary cap insisted upon is exactly $666. Maybe it's just me, but I would think changing the treaty would be more formal than comedic.

How ironic is that...666 billion.

[mikhen7]

Here is a quiz for you. how many times and where is 666 mentioned in scripture? hint --->once in OT and once in NT.

I will check back later to see how many can find the answer.

God Bless

[manta]

Here is a quiz for you. how many times and where is 666 mentioned in scripture? hint --->once in OT and once in NT.

I will check back later to see how many can find the answer.

God Bless

I cheated and used the computer so I'm not going to give the complete answer and spoil the fun.
But, I found 3 instances in the OT and 1 in the NT.

[Forgiven]

This article via yahoo (5 hrs ago) states the cap will be 668bn (500 euro).
Europe forges fiscal union, sees way out of crisis - Yahoo! News


Mikehen7, I've found the two 666 references: (OT re: children) and (NT re: motb). *click & drag within the parenthesis
I love a challenge, Manta so I'll be combing through 'Strong's' shortly


*I got 'em! (re: gold) and (re: gold )

[YeuEmMaiMai]

One has to ask exactly where are they getting this money from? (my guess is thin air- someone really needs to teach me that trick)....

[micah719]

One has to ask exactly where are they getting this money from? (my guess is thin air- someone really needs to teach me that trick)....

That reminds me of a Tactical Exercise Without Troops:

Major Confusion: "Mr V, your company is surrounded by a battalion size force on a hilltop and is under heavy mortar fire. What do you do?"

Me: "Well, I order my men to dig in and observe their arcs of fire in an allround perimeter, and call in an annihilating artillery strike on the enemy's troop concentrations and mortars from a regiment of howitzers."

Maj C.: "Hmm, well, the enemy counterbattery's your regiment of howitzers and suppresses your troops with heavy MG fire. What do you do now?".

Me: "I order my troops to make smoke to obscure the enemy's vision, and deploy thermal imaging equipment and snipers to neutralise the MG's. I also call in overwhelming naval gunfire support onto the enemy's artillery and troops from a taskforce offshore.

Maj C.: "Er, right then, now the enemy sinks the offshore taskforce with antiship cruise missiles and targets your obscured positions with cluster bombs and napalm from a fighterbomber strike. What are you going to do now?"

Me: "Meh, sir, my men are secure in their deep dugouts, and the enemy's air is shot down by a support squadron of SAM's. I call in a regiment of MBT's to roll up the disorganised and demoralised enemy troops from the flanks, and a regiment of APC's to load up my troops and make an advance to contact to mopup the enemy's support elements to his rear."

Maj C.: "Ahem! Hmmm, well, um, just a minute now. Where are you getting all this artillery and armour and naval support and whatnot from, eh?"

Me: "The same place you're getting the fighter bombers, cruise missiles, mortars, and MG's from, sir."

Maj C.: "Do you like marching in the hot sun, Mr V?"

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Fiat money is made by typing lots of 0's after an arbitrary number. The government lends this to a central private bank that inflates it by another arbitrary number and issues it to other schmucks. If everyone agrees it is money, it works. If it is rejected as currency, Maj C. and friends are called in to restore order and faith in fiat currency. In the meantime, micah sweats along under his pack on the way from one unpleasant location to another, wishing he hadn't been such a smart aleck. He wishes he could call in a nice comfortable airconditioned offroad vehicle, but he knows such thinking is insane.

[mikhen7]

The Quiz. One obvious place is in Revelation. The other I was looking for is in 1 Kings 10:14 and 2 Chronicles 9:13

An individual asked me this question a few months back and below is how I answered.

The question was ---> Concerning Solomon and the 666 talents of Gold from 1 Kings 10:14 and 2 Chronicles 9:13, there are at least two opinions.


1) Is just means a lot of Gold.

But that doesn't go far enough because the Scripture indicates twice 666 talents of gold. Why were they so specific? The rest of the chapter in 1 Kings goes on to explain all of the accumulations of wealth Solomon attained to, including horses, chariots, et... That in it self was a sin, ---> cp. Deuteronomy 17:14-20:


14 “When you come to the land that the Lord your God is giving you, and you possess it and dwell in it and then say, ‘I will set a king over me, like all the nations that are around me,’
15 you may indeed set a king over you whom the Lord your God will choose. One from among your brothers you shall set as king over you. You may not put a foreigner over you, who is not your brother.
16 Only he must not acquire many horses for himself or cause the people to return to Egypt in order to acquire many horses, since the Lord has said to you, ‘You shall never return that way again.’
17 And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold.
18 “And when he sits on the throne of his kingdom, he shall write for himself in a book a copy of this law, approved by† the Levitical priests.
19 And it shall be with him, and he shall read in it all the days of his life, that he may learn to fear the Lord his God by keeping all the words of this law and these statutes, and doing them,
20 that his heart may not be lifted up above his brothers, and that he may not turn aside from the commandment, either to the right hand or to the left, so that he may continue long in his kingdom, he and his children, in Israel.

2)It has financial significance. I think we would do well to consider that the man of sin, the antichrist, will exploit the use of the number 666, causing all men great and small to receive this number of his in order to buy and sell. That said, the significance of Solomon and 666 can be underscored in other ways as well.

• Solomon was wise, AC will also use wisdom, although it will be deceptive 2 Thess. 7-9
• Solomon was rich, so will the AC be wealthy Dan. 11:38
• Solomon worshiped idols, so the AC will set up an idol of himself, Matthew 24:15 (ESV) “So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place ( let the reader understand), See also Dan. 9:27, 11:31, 12:11
• Solomon committed spiritual adultery, so the AC will be an adulterous man against God causing all to worship himself.

That is a just a few of the things that can be considered when you compare the two. We know 666 has to do with finances and we know so does AC's system. So I believe what could be inferred, is that a system revolving around riches will come into play in the final days that will result in turning all people who are deceived by it from the true God. That is also just what Satan and the AC is all about.

God Bless

[micah719]

Solomon also built the Temple.

[mikhen7]

Solomon also built the Temple.

Good point Micah!! If one studied it thoroughly there may be other attributes that are comparable. However, even though I think all of the comparisons are very interesting, I do not believe that Solomon was a type of AC. and do not hope that anyone takes it that way. The emphasis was not really on the man but the 666 and his money from the queen of Sheba.

[micah719]

Yes, Brother Solly is a type of our Lord Jesus Christ, his Descendant according to the flesh. But the a-c is not merely anti- Messiah, he is pseudo- Messiah, meaning a counterfeit...so we can expect some similarities, at least in the way of some deeds, though only in appearance and never in character.

[readyforhome]

I know it is always a good idea to be prepared, its just the common sense God gave us all. On another note, it would seem they MIGHT be planning to fail. That is a whole lot of money too. I wonder if this money might be better used in circulation. I don't know, because I don't know all the specifics, but the one thing I DO know is that all of the people who keep talking about how superior Socialism is to Capitalism, well look at all the trouble Europe is in. Its another imperfect system made by man.

[micah719]

The goal is neither socialism nor capitalism, but a hegelian mix of the two. It is to incorporate the "best" of both, but will merely be a vile form of federal-techno-feudalism. The ptb know the EU will fail, because they always intended it to. When the lights go out and the shops are empty, the solution will be presented in such a way that the masses will eagerly accept. Some of us fundies will be on the first train to Auschwitz, to donate our organs and sequester our carbon-based bodies for the public and planetary good. Apostate christendom will cheer and see us off at the station and hold a service to celebrate unity with their ecumenical friends. Welcome to the NAR kingdom.

[manta]

The Quiz. One obvious place is in Revelation. The other I was looking for is in 1 Kings 10:14 and 2 Chronicles 9:13

I counted 1 Kings 10:14 and 2 Chronicles 9:13 as two. I was thinking in terms of verse count.

I also found Ezra 2:13

[mikhen7]

I counted 1 Kings 10:14 and 2 Chronicles 9:13 as two. I was thinking in terms of verse count.

I also found Ezra 2:13

Yes!! Adonikam was quite a virulent man! LOL!! Good work! And Fun!

God Bless!

[FaithInChrist]

This is why our family is always broke, we prefer to have things more tangible. Seriously, this political money producing game is like a huge game of "hot potato", don't be the one left holding the money bag when it is declared null and void.

[micah719]

Yes!! Adonikam was quite a virulent man! LOL!! Good work! And Fun!

God Bless!

His name is interesting too.....

H140
אדניקם
'ădônı̂yqâm
ad-o-nee-kawm'
From H113 and H6965; lord of rising (that is, high); Adonikam, the name of one or two Israelites: - Adonikam

And I bet Mrs Adonikam was a formidable woman....I mean, that many children, wow, that woman scares me!