Papal Throne to Move from Rome to Jerusalem

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The Papal throne to shift from Rome to Jerusalem « News that matters

I tried to do a search to see if this old article had been posted, and didn't see it. If it was previously posted, please disregard. Also, I think it has more to do with a one-world religion during the tribulation than a one-world "government", but I decided to post it here.

I see the Pope and Islam talking more and more. Clarence Larkin said that when the "corporate or institutional church", made up mostly of unsaved men and women, give over to the government, the true Church will have lost its influence in worldly affairs. I believe that, and I believe we're seeing many, many precursory events to the tribulation period right now. Another HUGE sign we won't be here much longer. Maranatha

[mattfivefour]

Sorry, my brother, but a careful examination of the article reveals it is nothing but rank speculation and empty (not to mention false) statements cleverly crafted to appear to have substance. Respectfully, this is not worth the electronic paper it is written on. It is an excellent (though crude) example of propaganda.

I personally have no doubt about the coming confluence of Roman Catholicism, Islam and Heretical Evangelical Christianity which will indeed morph into the One World Religion. But the sort of baseless speculation and sensational statements on which this article is predicated bear no relation to any of the things that are likely to form any part of that process.

I truly apologize for my bluntness in this post, bro, and deeply hope that I have not offended you. You are a dear brother and the thought of hurting or offending you pains me greatly. But I just cannot find anything in the article by which to recommend it.

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Sorry, my brother, but a careful examination of the article reveals it is nothing but rank speculation and empty (not to mention false) statements cleverly crafted to appear to have substance. Respectfully, this is not worth the electronic paper it is written on. It is an excellent (though crude) example of propaganda.

I personally have no doubt about the coming confluence of Roman Catholicism, Islam and Heretical Evangelical Christianity which will indeed morph into the One World Religion. But the sort of baseless speculation and sensational statements on which this article is predicated bear no relation to any of the things that are likely to form any part of that process.

I truly apologize for my bluntness in this post, bro, and deeply hope that I have not offended you. You are a dear brother and the thought of hurting or offending you pains me greatly. But I just cannot find anything in the article by which to recommend it.

No offense taken, Matt. I don't know what is "accurate" and what isn't. I do know it points to a coming merging of religions in the near future. Islam is going to take a huge blow in Ez. 38/39 War, and it will be exposed as a false religion, because the last verse of Ez. 38 says that God will be known by the nations of the world. Roman Catholicism, or some form thereof, has been said to be the OWR during the tribulation period. I'm told some are now calling for the next pope, "peter romano of Rome". Last fall, I think it was, the current pope held talks with islamic religious leaders. Although we won't be here when the OWR occurs, we can see the signs of its formulation, just as we can the OWG & currency. It's all being openly talked about now. We won't be here much longer.

[mattfivefour]

We won't be here much longer.

Indeed! I believe we are at least a couple of years from the Great Tribulation, but the Rapture can take place any time. There is nothing standing between us and it.

[SonSeeker]

Indeed! I believe we are at least a couple of years from the Great Tribulation, but the Rapture can take place any time. There is nothing standing between us and it.

Amen, Adrian!

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[Robert]

Yeah; with all the contention right now over Jerusalem, the pope would need a Kevlar miter just to use the potty there!

[Meg]

Yeah; with all the contention right now over Jerusalem, the pope would need a Kevlar miter just to use the potty there!

Being the Pope and all, he does have resources...

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No offense taken, Matt. I don't know what is "accurate" and what isn't. I do know it points to a coming merging of religions in the near future. Islam is going to take a huge blow in Ez. 38/39 War, and it will be exposed as a false religion, because the last verse of Ez. 38 says that God will be known by the nations of the world. Roman Catholicism, or some form thereof, has been said to be the OWR during the tribulation period. I'm told some are now calling for the next pope, "peter romano of Rome". Last fall, I think it was, the current pope held talks with islamic religious leaders. Although we won't be here when the OWR occurs, we can see the signs of its formulation, just as we can the OWG & currency. It's all being openly talked about now. We won't be here much longer.

very interesting! do you know by chance where you got that information about them calling for the next Pope? I'm surprised they already named him, unless of course you are referring to the prophecy's of St Malachy? From what I've read, he has an 100% track record, and the last Pope, after Benedict is gone, they will call him Pope Peter (The Great Roman) which supposedly is the last Pope, according to Malachy.

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very interesting! do you know by chance where you got that information about them calling for the next Pope? I'm surprised they already named him, unless of course you are referring to the prophecy's of St Malachy? From what I've read, he has an 100% track record, and the last Pope, after Benedict is gone, they will call him Pope Peter (The Great Roman) which supposedly is the last Pope, according to Malachy.

The word I got is the current pope wasn't "supposed" to be "Benedict", but he is. Some very interesting things, there. Do some research & see what you come up with, then compare to what is going on in the world today, the move to a one-world religion along with the govt. & economy. Remember, this is the Laodicean Church Age, the apostate age, which also includes the RCC. The next pope will greatly depart from the established "faith", - the move is on. Just because many don't want to believe it doesn't mean it isn't so. Look at our so called main-line denominations, how they've departed from the truth. Some no longer believe in the virgin birth; the resurrection; and 57% of evangelicals believe there's another way to Heaven other than through Jesus. The Catholics won't survive without their apostacy, either. A church without a cross? Remember when obama attended the university & he had them cover the cross so as not to "offend" anyone?

Again, do some research and see what you come up with. Get ready, folks, all who are born again are about to leave planet earth in the twinkling of an eye. I'm ready. Maranatha

[jesuschangesall]

The word I got is the current pope wasn't "supposed" to be "Benedict", but he is. Some very interesting things, there. Do some research & see what you come up with, then compare to what is going on in the world today, the move to a one-world religion along with the govt. & economy. Remember, this is the Laodicean Church Age, the apostate age, which also includes the RCC. The next pope will greatly depart from the established "faith", - the move is on. Just because many don't want to believe it doesn't mean it isn't so. Look at our so called main-line denominations, how they've departed from the truth. Some no longer believe in the virgin birth; the resurrection; and 57% of evangelicals believe there's another way to Heaven other than through Jesus. The Catholics won't survive without their apostacy, either. A church without a cross? Remember when obama attended the university & he had them cover the cross so as not to "offend" anyone?

Again, do some research and see what you come up with. Get ready, folks, all who are born again are about to leave planet earth in the twinkling of an eye. I'm ready. Maranatha

To my understanding the RCC has NEVER been a Christian Church...
They have been preaching a FALSE GOSPEL ( WORKS)(Grace through SACRAMENTS)
another CHRIST ( it is a WAFER in a BOX)(or a PUPET on a cross,HE IS RISEN..but not for them!)
PURGATORY ( false HOPE,and also NULLIFIES,DENIES the TOTAL EFFICACY of JESUS BLOOD)
ALL THE POPES have always been USURPERS of THE ROLE of CHRIST and THE HOLY SPIRIT....NO MAN can be VICARIUS of CHRISTI..in other words no man,CAN TAKE THE ROLE of CHRIST and THE HOLY SPIRIT to bring the SINNER to reconcile with GOD)

Confession to THE PRIEST is NOT in THE BIBLE.
Praying and WORSHIPING MARY and SAINTS is NOT in the Bible....
I mean I could go on.......
I mean,honestly I find DISGUSTING and pretty REVOLTING to call a mere man HOLY FATHER,HIS HOLINESS,THE LITTLE CHRIST ON EARTH, and so forth....( it is PURE IDOLATRY)
we are the saints..
we are the servants ( ministers)
we are holy ( separated unto God through Jesus,but I am quite sure that we would shun even the idea to be called HIS HOLINESS...)
JESUS is THE HEAD of THE BODY,not a POPE......

The Tibetans call HIS HOLINESS the DALAI LAMA......
It is a mess man..a real mess....
THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN aka THE MADONNA ( nothing to do with our sister Mary,the mum of Jesus) IS A DEMONIC CULT....
ALL THE POPES ARE TOTALLY DEVOTED to THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN.....
no desire to tear down the RCC,it is evident that is HE GREATEST CULT in the world...

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To my understanding the RCC has NEVER been a Christian Church...
They have been preaching a FALSE GOSPEL ( WORKS)(Grace through SACRAMENTS)
another CHRIST ( it is a WAFER in a BOX)(or a PUPET on a cross,HE IS RISEN..but not for them!)
PURGATORY ( false HOPE,and also NULLIFIES,DENIES the TOTAL EFFICACY of JESUS BLOOD)
ALL THE POPES have always been USURPERS of THE ROLE of CHRIST and THE HOLY SPIRIT....NO MAN can be VICARIUS of CHRISTI..in other words no man,CAN TAKE THE ROLE of CHRIST and THE HOLY SPIRIT to bring the SINNER to reconcile with GOD)

Confession to THE PRIEST is NOT in THE BIBLE.
Praying and WORSHIPING MARY and SAINTS is NOT in the Bible....
I mean I could go on.......
I mean,honestly I find DISGUSTING and pretty REVOLTING to call a mere man HOLY FATHER,HIS HOLINESS,THE LITTLE CHRIST ON EARTH, and so forth....( it is PURE IDOLATRY)
we are the saints..
we are the servants ( ministers)
we are holy ( separated unto God through Jesus,but I am quite sure that we would shun even the idea to be called HIS HOLINESS...)
JESUS is THE HEAD of THE BODY,not a POPE......

The Tibetans call HIS HOLINESS the DALAI LAMA......
It is a mess man..a real mess....
THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN aka THE MADONNA ( nothing to do with our sister Mary,the mum of Jesus) IS A DEMONIC CULT....
ALL THE POPES ARE TOTALLY DEVOTED to THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN.....
no desire to tear down the RCC,it is evident that is HE GREATEST CULT in the world...

I agree, JC. A few months ago, I copied a document which lists all the wrongs of the RCC, and it even lists the dates on which the different popes/councils adopted various beliefs. It's ridiculous, to me, it's nothing more than a man-made religion, and is NOT based on the Bible.

There are, if I recall correctly, 2 catechisms which state specifically that if you believe in salvation by grace through faith, you are going to hell. Wow. That I think was adopted by the council of Trent in or around 1500. No wonder there was a Protestant reformation with the rallying cry "sola scriptura".

There are some Catholics who believe in salvation through Jesus alone. I know of one man in particular who was a former Catholic, and a priest told him there was no way to be saved other than thrugh Jesus. This man has taught Sunday Scoool for many, many years, and he knows, and lives, his Bible. A true born again believer. So yes, there are some, but the RCC religion as a whole is cultic. We need to watch the events of the RCC and how they merge with islam and other religions. I think the world council of churches is working on it. We're outta here, soon.

[Meg]

While we're at it, did y'all know the muslims are waiting for a sort of anti-messiah they call the 12th imam?

Toing the line here, but this mess almost sounds like the AC

Muhammad al-Mahdi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[mattfivefour]

Yes, we do know about the Hidden Imam. It sure does all tie in.

[Meg]

Yes, we do know about the Hidden Imam. It sure does all tie in.

Yea, it sure does look that way. The NY mess was one thing, but the Pennsylvania 9/11 memorial issue completely shocked me.

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The word I got is the current pope wasn't "supposed" to be "Benedict", but he is. Some very interesting things, there. Do some research & see what you come up with, then compare to what is going on in the world today, the move to a one-world religion along with the govt. & economy. Remember, this is the Laodicean Church Age, the apostate age, which also includes the RCC. The next pope will greatly depart from the established "faith", - the move is on. Just because many don't want to believe it doesn't mean it isn't so. Look at our so called main-line denominations, how they've departed from the truth. Some no longer believe in the virgin birth; the resurrection; and 57% of evangelicals believe there's another way to Heaven other than through Jesus. The Catholics won't survive without their apostacy, either. A church without a cross? Remember when obama attended the university & he had them cover the cross so as not to "offend" anyone?

Again, do some research and see what you come up with. Get ready, folks, all who are born again are about to leave planet earth in the twinkling of an eye. I'm ready. Maranatha

sorry, you lost me when you said "do some research and compare to what is going on in the world today", the whole purpose of me asking the question about " where did he get the information about them wanting to replace the current Pope?" was based on what i've read about the prophecys of St. Malachy - and from what i've gathered over the years, Cardinal Ratzinger was being groomed well before John Paul passed away.. On 5 April 1993, the future Pope Benedict XVI was installed as the cardinal bishop of Velletri-Segni. Velletri's coat of arms are emblazoned with three olive trees
He was formally inaugurated as Supreme Pontiff on April 24, 2005
Cardinal Ratzinger's choice of the name Benedict XVI was seen by some as the fulfillment of the prophecy gloria olivae, ... Malachy's prophecy's are very interesting. I'm not discounting or counting on them, i like to take the current events happening and compare them to the light of Gods word. As far as the Catholic Church is concerned, those Catholics who are true followers of Jesus that have faith alone in him for salvation will be victorious, the Catholic Church began with Peter, calling him the first Pope... If i remember correctly, Jesus looked at Peter and said Upon this rock i will build my church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. Maybe that was a prophetic statement? i think so. Most things the Catholic Church does, i disagree with, for example, calling other men Father, or praying to Mary, Bible also says to beware of men in long robes...prophetic? yep, i think so, look at all the child molestations news... no wonder it tells us to beware.....and i pray all of us in this forum continues to do research..

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Catholicism & Islam: Ties That Bind | thebereancall.org

Catholicism & Islam - Ties That Bind.

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Catholicism & Islam: Ties That Bind | thebereancall.org

Catholicism & Islam - Ties That Bind.

I'm with ya on that. I recall Pope Benedict went to Turkey a couple years ago and entered a mosque. was he paying respect to Allah? YEP. There will be a one world religion, if Malachy is correct regarding the last Pope and IF he is the Anti-Christ, wouldn't surprise me if the 12th Imam is the false prophet. I'm not saying they are in any way, i'm just making an assessment of the possibilities. Jesus commanded us to watch.. The main thing i'm looking for is the RAPTURE, and the signs are everywhere!