Nazis planned to exterminate Christianity

[micah719]

Nazis planned to exterminate Christianity

The Nuremberg trials of leading Nazis conclusively proved that they attempted genocide against the Jews, resulting in the Holocaust, in which some six million Jews were killed. But one senior member of the US prosecution team, General William Donovan, compiled a huge amount of documentation that the Nazis also planned to systematically destroy Christianity.

Donovan’s documents—almost 150 bound volumes—were stored at Cornell University after his death in 1959, and are now being posted online at the Rutgers Journal of Law and Religion. This ‘criminal conspiracy’ involved the very top Nazis, including Adolf Hitler and propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels, as well as Hitler Youth leader and Nuremberg defendant Baldur von Schirach.

These documents show that the Nazis, right from the beginning, realized that the church would have to be neutralized because of its opposition to racism and aggressive wars of conquest. So they planned to infiltrate the churches from within; defame, arrest, assault or kill pastors; reindoctrinate the congregations; and suppress denominational schools and youth organizations.

Bible-believing, evangelical churches were in the forefront of opposition, as opposed to compromising churches. Without a firm belief in the inerrancy of the Bible, liberal churches were more readily inclined to ‘reinterpret’ Christianity to suit the ruling pro-evolution ideology, which is similar to what happens with Darwinistic ‘science’ today.

As early as 1937, Protestant churches issued a manifesto objecting to Nazi policies, and the Nazis retaliated by arresting 700 pastors.

In an ominous parallel with current clamours by humanist and self-professed ‘civil liberties’ groups to ‘keep Creation in the church’ and obliterate all traces of Christianity from public life and schools, ‘The various Christian Churches … were confined as far as possible to the performance of narrowly religious functions, and even within this sphere were subjected to as many hindrances as the Nazis dared to impose.’

All this furthered the Nazis’ aim of a ‘slow and cautious policy of gradual encroachment’ to eliminate Christianity and use the churches’ organizational structures for their own purposes.

Speaking from experience, the same things are going on today in the very same country. This time around they are aided by laws from those days which somehow were never removed....homeschooling being a prime example. Wonder how many other little "leftovers" might be waiting to be re-heated and consumed?

[Milton]

Well I'm a nazi and a fellow christian and I'm very offended by your words. I would never and I say never kill any of my fellow christians! Jesus did not kill and neither should we. Don't you know that Hitler himself was a dedicated christian? This would be clear to you if you actually read his book you would see evidence of his christianity. Don't blam the Nazis for all the bad things that happens in the world. If Hitler had been succesful with his plans we would have had the Rapture long ago.

[micah719]

Are you for real?? If you're a nazi, you're no Christian. Hitler was no Christian. Repent, before it's too late.

[Milton]

Well I pray every day and respect God. Most of my friends find it weird that I can combine these two things, but I keep telling them that as long as I believe in God I will be okay when the end come that is the only thing that really matters.
How can I repent if I am already a christian?

[micah719]

Depends on your definition of Christian.

Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and how and why was He born?

[Milton]

Jesus is the son of God and he was borned so that we could be free from our sins. I think this is the definition most christians have, but I can of course not talk for everyone.

[Chris]

Milton,
It looks like you are in Germany? I'm not sure what being a Nazi consists of today in Germany, perhaps you can tell us?

The image the rest of the world has about Nazis is from the Holocaust. And that is not a pretty image. There's lots of stuff that went on behind the scenes in Nazi Germany of WW2. Much of it was not good.

[Robert]

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[Faith]

Milton,

Chris and Micah are both right....

Maybe your definition about being a Nazi is different....

However, Micah is right that Hilter was no saved Christian.

He was purely 'evil',and being a Christian is more than believing that Jesus is the Son of God.

Satan believes this...

It's accepting the Lord as our Savior,and we are 'changed.'

I'm not posting these words to hurt you in any way,but I cannot believe you would accept that Hilter was a Christian...

I hope you don't mind,but 'when' did you accept Christ as your personal Savior?

Could you please share with us...

I was 15 years old when the Lord became my Savior,and change my life forever...

Please know we care about you...

[Milton]

I must admit that I did not live doing under the Nazi Germany so I have not witness anything with my own eyes. I must say that Germany is probably the hardest place on earth to be a Nazi, because of our history, it is something that you keep to yourself and mabey tell your close friends, who will be very surprised and mostly react in any negative way you can imagine. But this is the question I always ask them. "Why did God give Hitler the power in Germany if he did not have a plan with it?"
My point is that if Hitler had finished his job we might be in heaven now. But the US had to intervene in his plans and since God wouldn't destroy the country where most people worship him, he lost the war. The same thing happed doing the Six-Day War.

The problem is that humans always want to act when we are not supposed to. Our roll is to prey and have faith that what God does is the right and when we don't do this it has consequences.

However I belive that the end is near, because with the global crisis, we wouldn't be able to prevent it when Iran drop a bomb on Isreal and finish Hitlers' job. The end is near.

God Bless

[Milton]

I'm not posting these words to hurt you in any way,but I cannot believe you would accept that Hilter was a Christian...

I know you guys don't want to hurt me and seeing everybodies reaction
I am starting to worry that I am wrong, but my theory just make so much sense to me. I am just preying that God will help me find the rigth road to heaven.

To answer another question of yours, I have been a christian my whole life, but I did not become a Nazi before I was 24.

[Chris]

I must admit that I did not live doing under the Nazi Germany so I have not witness anything with my own eyes. I must say that Germany is probably the hardest place on earth to be a Nazi, because of our history, it is something that you keep to yourself and mabey tell your close friends, who will be very surprised and mostly react in any negative way you can imagine. But this is the question I always ask them. "Why did God give Hitler the power in Germany if he did not have a plan with it?"

God used Hitler's evil to help launch the "re-birth" of Israel 3 years later in 1948. Hitler took care of Hitler when he swallowed the pill.

God took Hitler and the Nazi's evil and used it in his perfect plan for the redemption of mankind. God doesn't intervene in men's free will, but he knows ahead of time what is going to happen so he uses our actions, whether good or bad, for the progress of his perfect plan. The Jews have to be in the land in the end times. WW2 helped to make that happen.

My point is that if Hitler had finished his job we might be in heaven now. But the US had to intervene in his plans and since God wouldn't destroy the country where most people worship him, he lost the war. The same thing happed doing the Six-Day War.

God foretold long ago before Hitler and WW2 that the Jews would come back into the land during the end times. Destroying the Jews would not have gotten us to Heaven sooner because the Lord would never allow them to be destroyed. The Jews are an important part of God's plan for mankind. Hitler thought destroying the Jews was a good idea, and you see what happened to him. God has specifically said that in the end times he would bring them back into the land and restore them. Anyone who thinks that they can destroy the Jews means they think they can ursurp God's plans. Ain't gonna happen.

The problem is that humans always want to act when we are not supposed to. Our roll is to prey and have faith that what God does is the right and when we don't do this it has consequences.

Hitler had actions and paid consequences, too. We all do. But God's Word will always stand.

However I belive that the end is near, because with the global crisis, we wouldn't be able to prevent it when Iran drop a bomb on Isreal and finish Hitlers' job. The end is near.

God Bless

Hitler's job was to bring back the glory of Germany and make it a great country again. But Hitler got sidetracked and destroyed it again. That is what happens when man doesn't listen to God. He destroys himself.

[micah719]

Just because God lets an evil man do evil things doesn't mean He agrees with it, or that He won't punish them. He used Babylon to punish Israel, but destroyed Babylon and revived Israel. There are clear warnings in Scripture for those who want to harm Israel, it is like touching God's eye. Try touching your own eye and see how it feels. Saying Hitler didn't finish the job horrifies me....how can you say such things? And how do you explain saying what you did with something else you said:

"Jesus did not kill and neither should we"

Perhaps you should read Isaiah 63, and many other Scriptures, about how sweet and cuddly Jesus is going to be when He comes back, to rescue His people from those who want to exterminate them. Last time He came as The Lamb, to pay once for all for our sins, but the next time He comes as The Lion and He will be angry. And Who do you suppose said this:

Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I, I am He, and there is no god beside Me; I kill and I make alive, I wound and I heal, and there is none who can deliver out of My hand.

That was Jesus Himself!

Go investigate hitler and the nazis...read about a man called Dietrich Eckhart, you'll see what hitler's beliefs were.

As to saying what you did about Jesus, could you please explain what you mean? Even demons say nice-sounding things about Jesus, but I want to hear from you just Who He is, or who you think he is.

[Robert]

Milton, read this entry from wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi

Now, after reading the entire entry, please explain to us how you can reconcile that with being a christian.

I don't know what your definition of "being a Nazi" is, but from everything I have read and have known, it is NOT a good thing. My father, who is 82 years old, fought in WWII against the Axis powers. He can tell you quite a bit about the Japanese as well as the Nazis.

I am not trying to be antagonistic towards you, nor is it my desire to pick a fight with you. That being said, The terms Nazi and Christian are diametrically opposed; there is such a dichotomy between them that it is practically night and day. So please forgive my confusion at the two being included in a common descriptor of one person.

[bghtnpd4]

We have an enormous amount of historical evidence that Hitler was never a Christian, nor did he ever claim to be, to my knowledge. He was, in fact, heavily into occultism, and so were all of the people he surrounded himself with including Eva Brahn. Further, he also killed 3 million Christians in his quest to exterminte the Jews. I have always thought it odd that he tried to exterminate his own people since, as we all know, Hitler was half Jew on his mother's side. So, Millton, I encourage you to do more study on Nazism before you claim to want to be one because it is a movement that is evil to the core and completely opposed to what Christianity stands for. Welcome to the forum, and I hope you find all of the answers you are looking for...

[paul&katie]

We have an enormous amount of historical evidence that Hitler was never a Christian, nor did he ever claim to be, to my knowledge. He was, in fact, heavily into occultism, and so were all of the people he surrounded himself with including Eva Brahn. Further, he also killed 3 million Christians in his quest to exterminte the Jews. I have always thought it odd that he tried to exterminate his own people since, as we all know, Hitler was half Jew on his mother's side. So, Millton, I encourage you to do more study on Nazism before you claim to want to be one because it is a movement that is evil to the core and completely opposed to what Christianity stands for. Welcome to the forum, and I hope you find all of the answers you are looking for...

I agree completely.

My signature is about communism but it applies equally to other anti-Christian worldviews like fascism as well!

[Jesus Freak]

Hey Milton,

I'm sorry but your horribly wrong on Hitler being a Christian. Hitler was a backsliding Catholic, whose ultimate goal was to terminate the Jews. He believed in Evolution b/c he believed the Jews were the most less evolved. The list went like this, Aryans-blond hair blue eyes, Germanic-Brown hair blue/brown eyes, Whites, Blacks, and Jews. The Vatican was also greatly influenced on the Holocaust. Not only that but Catholocism is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It holds 4 main doctorines of Christinity, but all the secondary doctorins contradict their main ones, and making it nothing more than a cult. The Catholic Church (I used to be Catholic btw) is Satans biggest acheviement. All other "religions" are based on Satans one lie, "Ye shall be God". Catholocism teaches that Jesus died on the cross so they (Catholics) can become gods.

You also stated that all you have to do is believe in God in order to be saved. Agnotics believe in a god, that dosent make them saved. John 3:16 the word believe means to trust in. You have to trust in Jesus Christ, not believe in Him. Accepting Him and asking Him into your heart are two diffrent things. People can accept Him all they want, but to ask Him into your life and be Lord of their life is what He wants them to do.

[WKUHilltopper]

I know you guys don't want to hurt me and seeing everybodies reaction
I am starting to worry that I am wrong, but my theory just make so much sense to me. I am just preying that God will help me find the rigth road to heaven.

To answer another question of yours, I have been a christian my whole life, but I did not become a Nazi before I was 24.

Milton, I can tell you that the "old timers" on here love you and are concerned for you. I feel a special kinship to you since my ancestors were German. We can discuss the merits of "Hitler being Christian", which I think wasn't the case. But once you're filled with the Holy Spirit, He'll allow you to understand. Our direction is to obey the Lord Jesus Christ. We fail (I do at least) miserably, but through His grace and compassion, He is lovingly forgiving.

Please stay around and post here. I would really like to get to know you.

God used Hitler's evil to help launch the "re-birth" of Israel 3 years later in 1948.

I think that's pretty much right, Chris. You see, if Satan can destroy and eliminate the Jews--then he makes God fail, especially fulfilling the the promise God made to Abraham regarding Israel/Jerusalem (plus, the European Jews were so assimilated and comfortable in Europe, I guess God had to permit such monstrosities to occur to motivate the return to Israel. A ripping away of "loyalty" to their "country". Parallels that seem to be occurring right here in our very own country. I've gotten a lot "closer", I feel, to Jesus than I am to the USA now.) Israel/Jews will never be destroyed or eliminated from the earth. Because Jesus will set up His throne of government right in the heart of Jerusalem.

[Inky]

Milton,

It sounds like your ultimate goal is just like ours and that is to love and glorify the God of Abraham and the door to God is through the Risen One Jesus the Christ. Please understand, Hitler exterminated over a million Jews; Jews who were, and still are, God’s chosen people. Your definition of Nazism apparently is different than what we understand it to be but I can tell you this, if a leader of any country promotes the extermination of any race of people, that is not glorifying God or obeying His commandments. Murder is defined in both the Old Testament and again under the New Covenant in the New Testament.

If you are a true believer in Christ, be just that. You don’t need anything else but Him.

[israelmybeloved]

Milton, welcome I am neither judge nor am I gonna judge. History has proven what happen in WWII and what hitler did to the Jewish people, I for one love Israel and the Jewish people, (sin is sin, even a liars will go to hell if they do not repent) but with that said, I was not there when hitler died, maybe he repented of these terrible crimes and sins, I can only hope he did, because Jesus died for everyone, EVERYONE, yes even hitler can come to the cross. So until I get to heaven I will see rather he is there or not, right now only Jesus knows and of course hitler.