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    Something is not right with this story.
    As I said, they are established facts from Ann Soetoro's own hand and reputable institutions. What might be wrong here is the information you currently accept as being valid.


    The Jakarta Post
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    Born Stanley Ann Dunham, the Kansas-native anthropologist and activist spent much of her life pioneering a microfinance scheme for peasant villagers in Java, Indonesia, and other developing countries. She helped found the East Java Women’s Cooperative Center (Puskowanjati) and worked for Bank Rakyat Indonesia (BRI), the country’s biggest micro-banking institution.
    As for Barry Soetoro's citizenship at that time there is hard proof in the form of an official Indonesian government document known as the Kartu Keluarga (Family Identity Card). This document bears the legal name and Indonesian citizenship status of all family members. Barry Soetoro became an Indonesian citizen when Lolo Soetoro legally adopted him. This document, signed by Lolo Soetoro, declares his adopted son to be an Indonesian citizen of the Islamic faith.

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    As I said, they are established facts from Ann Soetoro's own hand and reputable institutions. What might be wrong here is the information you currently accept as being valid.


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    As for Barry Soetoro's citizenship at that time there is hard proof in the form of an official Indonesian government document known as the Kartu Keluarga (Family Identity Card). This document bears the legal name and Indonesian citizenship status of all family members. Barry Soetoro became an Indonesian citizen when Lolo Soetoro legally adopted him. This document, signed by Lolo Soetoro, declares his adopted son to be an Indonesian citizen of the Islamic faith.

    Trust me I know what a Kartu Keluarga is far far far far more than you. There is something missing. I do believe that Barry's last name is Soetoro. From my research he could not have gone to public school without being a citizen. Otherwise he would have gone to JES, SIS, SAS or the Catholic school in Jakarta. I still need to keep digging. Now what might have been is that her parents were the ones in the finance business and she assisted them--something is fishy. All the dots aren't connecting for me. Sean- (saying this with kindness) just because someone writes something doesn't mean it is fact. Look at Barry's book! Ha!

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    Trust me I know what a Kartu Keluarga is far far far far more than you.
    That is quite quite quite quite an assumption to make, and it's an assumption that should be ignored because it is highly irrelevant to the issue as there is a finite amount of information on Obama-Soetoro's Kartu Keluarga page. It is an official Indonesian document of record. It is irrefutable evidence. That is all that matters here.

    By the way, I posted the image of Barry Soetoro's Kartu Keluarga page with a brief description of its contents not for yourself, per se, but for those Rapture Forums readers who might not be aware of it. This has been an open discussion for all who are interested in it.

    What I am now in search of is Barry Soetoro's other mandatory Indonesian document - the Karty Tanda Pendudaks - the official Indonesian government issued ID card. Indonesia was a police state when Barry Soetoro was a citizen there - he had to have had one of these cards also.

    I do believe that Barry's last name is Soetoro.
    Excellent! I am glad that you believe this because it is also an established fact. The image of the document as posted proves it, not because someone said so. The Kartu Keluarga is a mandatory document in Indonesia for every family. A minimum of three copies exist, and the document itself is owned by the provincial government.

    From my research he could not have gone to public school without being a citizen.
    Very good again because that is also an established fact. In Indonesia during the 1960s and 1970s, per the national constitution, only citizens were permitted to attend public schools. Citizenship status was verified by the Indonesian Government.

    None of these facts were ever undone upon Barry Soetoro's return to the USA.

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    Sean-Peace be with you.

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    You too Bro.

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    A real Manchurian candidate...incredible. And yet, Congress vacations while the Vapor trashes the house.
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    I suppose this thread could be called the Sotero ology discussion.

    Sadly, no matter how conclusive the evidence, the masses are so disinterested that it wouldn't make the 6 o'clock news. People are too lazy to look through candidates which is how we got this guy to begin with.
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    People are too lazy to look through candidates which is how we got this guy to begin with.
    We got this guy because God has delivered the country to what it wants--confusion, separation, perversion and imprudent leadership--just to name a few symptoms of sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WKUHilltopper View Post
    We got this guy because God has delivered the country to what it wants--confusion, separation, perversion and imprudent leadership--just to name a few symptoms of sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnceWasLost View Post
    I suppose this thread could be called the Sotero ology discussion.

    Sadly, no matter how conclusive the evidence, the masses are so disinterested that it wouldn't make the 6 o'clock news. People are too lazy to look through candidates which is how we got this guy to begin with.
    The real problem is the 6 o'clock news is engineered and manipulated so much that the type of information being discussed here would never even make it into the newsroom. And if it did get that far, the political machine would deride it as simply the manifestation of a small fringe group of radicals and not to be taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonSeeker View Post
    The real problem is the 6 o'clock news is engineered and manipulated so much that the type of information being discussed here would never even make it into the newsroom. And if it did get that far, the political machine would deride it as simply the manifestation of a small fringe group of radicals and not to be taken seriously.
    No question, the alphabet soup media is more about indoctrination and much less about information.

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    No question, the alphabet soup media is more about indoctrination and much less about information.
    Yup, just like our schools. They no longer teach, they indoctrinate young minds full of mush with socialism and other leftist dogma.

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    wonder what the President will say when he stands before the Lord and has to account for his fraudulant activities regarding his obtaining the Office of the President of the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Osborne View Post
    Yup, just like our schools. They no longer teach, they indoctrinate young minds full of mush with socialism and other leftist dogma.
    Heartbreaking, we as taxpayers subsidize the indoctrination of kids that will be fed to the antichrist.

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    Heartbreaking, we as taxpayers subsidize the indoctrination of kids that will be fed to the antichrist.
    Sad but true, bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnceWasLost View Post
    Heartbreaking, we as taxpayers subsidize the indoctrination of kids that will be fed to the antichrist.
    And do we not allow similar things to be done in churches where the Gospel of Christ is not preached, prophecy is not taught, and The Word is being substituted by a false feel-good gospel? Satan is active in the sanctuaries all across this land.

    We, the Bride of Christ, will have much to answer for; we are not blameless. There is so much more we should have and could have been doing by the power of the Holy Spirit but have not done.

    Rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's is one thing in all of its implications, but have we rendered unto God all that is His by our actions or lack thereof?

    This is still some time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Osborne View Post
    That is quite quite quite quite an assumption to make
    Just to put this in writing so it might be considered fact, here is a jpeg of my school yearbook from Jakarta when I lived in Jakarta Indonesia.

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    Personally I do not believe for 1 microsecond that our current President is legitimate. Way too many things do not add up..
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    this stuff sounds crazy
    imo if there is some sort of conspiracy i dont the the "powers" that are in control would cover up such a mess in such a way that anyone could prove it
    technically they can just take care of all the paper work and put it where it needs to be in a heartbeat after all they control everything

    personally this stuff is interesting but my main concern is to get to heaven without worrying about conspiracies paper work and other baloney that have no purpose in anyway of helping get to heaven
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    kind of hard to insert a social security number into the system like that and thus the reason for the inconsistancies

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