Glenn Beck - Deceived

**Berean Girl** · January-3rd-2007, 07:40 PM

I have issues with this guy, although he tries to portray himself as a conservative with "biblical" values. He is a mormon for one. The other thing is he supports crazies and curses on his program. Third, he was speaking on the muslim congressman who wants to swear in on the koran, supposedly a Thomas Jefferson koran, instead of the Bible, and said that radical islam is the only thing we have to worry about and basically that "moderate islam" is a cool thing, let's all hold hands now.

To learn more about him and Todd Friel of Way of the Master Radio speaking with Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, go here http://www.wayofthemasterradio.com/podcast/

The deception grows my people, not to mention traitors in our own back yard.

**Carol** · January-4th-2007, 02:11 PM

I used to watch Glenn but not anymore. Thanks for sharing that link, Berean! I had a listen and WOW...you were not kidding!

I really like "The Way of the Master.." They seem to be solid, biblically...

God bless...

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**BuzzardHut** · January-4th-2007, 02:27 PM

I wouldn't say as much as being an out right deceiver but as one who is being deceived.

It might be apples and oranges but we really need to cut down the name callings in these forums because it looks bad to the general public.

This is one of the many reasons other boards make forums such as Aplogetics private because infighting and name calling really makes Christians look bad to the outside world.

Please be gentle on each other folks in a the spirit of love and humility or Eric & I may have to pull forums such as Apologetics to keep the peace and others will miss out on the warnings we have to share.

Lets be a Light House not Lazer Beams! :flamer :laser

**Carol** · January-4th-2007, 02:38 PM

I agree he has been deceived! I once was too! That's why I pray mightily for this man....He sure has a lot of influence to others now, so we MUST pray for him!

God bless!

**Carol** · January-4th-2007, 02:54 PM

and yes about the name calling...I was reading some of the other posts here over the last few days...Sad, very sad....

I do not envy your job, Mods...at all! I can see why Eric had enough...The personal attacks to one another on this board are very saddening and disheartening.

I pray this is the end of it...

cry

**mikalikat** · January-4th-2007, 05:00 PM

This whole thing saddens me because I DO like Glenn Beck--a lot.

We all must realize that perfection only falls on one person. If each of us were to not listen to a person because of flaws and warts, we would all be left staring at walls, listening and watching no one. The Lord gives us the ability to discern, sift and separate the wheat from the chaff. I choose to do this with each individual, not a group. I personally don't care that John Hagee is WOF--I haven't seen evidence of that myself. I watch and listen to him for his knowledge of Prophecy and Israel and I have learned tons from him. But I have been personally skewered for saying that I like him. Same for Glenn Beck. I have listened to Glenn for several years now and I personally don't care that he's a Mormon. He has his beliefs, and they are between him and God. That doesn't make him any less a conservative American. His cursing would be up for discussion--I probably use the same words from time to time that he does. I don't drop "f" bombs, and neither does he on his show--he can't afford the fines! F bombs are swearing. Saying something "p's" you off is not swearing. And he says that from time to time. So do I, to be quite honest. You wouldn't have to look far to find other Christians that also do. We are human, not perfect.

He is relentless in his efforts to expose radical Islam. I appreciate that. He's brought to light aspects about radical Islam that no one else has the guts to do. I respect everyone's views, but we can't cry that the sky is falling every time someone doesn't fall into the "Perfect Category."

Just MHO.

**BonesMcCoy** · January-4th-2007, 06:51 PM

Well as David noted, he always found more mercy with God then he did with men.

David said to Gad, "I am in deep distress. Let us fall into the hands of the LORD, for his mercy is great; but do not let me fall into the hands of men."
2 Samuel 24:13-15

**Berean Girl** · January-4th-2007, 07:05 PM

OK, I am not name-calling, but what else would you call a person who passings on deceitful notions? Maybe I could say he is deceived, I am not namecalling anyone. Our language is very descriptive and all I was using was an adjective. One thing he said was that he didnt have any problem with him swearing on a Koran. How can someone who claims to be "christian" not see the irony in that statement, especially when this country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles? He has a love affair with this religion as do many others in the media and it is called disinformation.

Buzz, I am sorry if my post came across as namecalling, I was only using a word to indicate an action.

**sandy** · January-4th-2007, 07:19 PM

I would have serious problems with him calling himself a christian then basically ok'ing the koran.

the we are all one thing. why he is doing it, dont know, motives only God sees, but we are not all "one"

**BuzzardHut** · January-4th-2007, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Berean Girl

OK, I am not name-calling, but what else would you call a person who passings on deceitful notions? Maybe I could say he is deceived, I am not namecalling anyone. Our language is very descriptive and all I was using was an adjective. One thing he said was that he didnt have any problem with him swearing on a Koran. How can someone who claims to be "christian" not see the irony in that statement, especially when this country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles? He has a love affair with this religion as do many others in the media and it is called disinformation.

Buzz, I am sorry if my post came across as namecalling, I was only using a word to indicate an action.

Since he is mormon we can't expect any discernment from him.
He is a political commentator.
I would take Ann Coulter's comments over Glenn anytime.

**mikalikat** · January-4th-2007, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by BuzzardHut

Since he is mormon we can't expect any discernment from him.
He is a political commentator.
I would take Ann Coulter's comments over Glenn anytime.

Just as a side note, he was not born into the Mormon religion. At one time, he was a theology major at Yale, and struggled with a horrific alcohol addiction, overcoming that with a 12 step program. He has only belonged to the Mormon religion for around seven years, and yes, we can expect discernment from him. Just because a person walks into a Mormon stake does not mean they leave their discernment at the door. I have known quite a few from that particular church that do not follow the lemming mentality and actually are quite intelligent and discerning. That doesn't mean I agree with what they believe through the church. We can't be blanketing everyone like this. Being a Mormon is not the first, foremost, and center of his life. God is.

Glenn Beck will be the first to tell you that he's not a political genius. He's a radio talk show host/clown/entertainer. He's interested in ENTERTAINING people. If you have listened to his radio show, you will hear him cover a wide variety of subjects from parents who give their children Benadryl to get to sleep to elderly incontinence. He's fanatically interested in prophecy and end times. He covers politics because he HAS to. It affects our daily lives.

Ann Coulter is a brilliantly intelligent woman that focuses solely on politics. They will both probably agree that on an intelligence scale of 1-10, she's a 17 and he's a 6. Comparing them is comparing apples and oranges.

Being a Christian is a serious honor. We have a lot to stand up and answer for. But I also feel that sometimes we tend to take ourselves way too seriously and stand in judgment of people in ways that speak quite poorly about ourselves to those watching from the outside. Accept the fact that people differ in opinions, and let it lie. Not everyone will agree with everything posted on these threads. THAT'S OK!!!! The world will still be spinning tomorrow.

**mikalikat** · January-4th-2007, 09:21 PM

I hope you all aren't upset with me for saying all that--I still love this board and find fellowship and, at times, solace here. Please accept my words in the spirit in which they were given. Sometimes I do tend to be the pleaser, the "let's all get along" person, but I also let it all out at times. Forgive me if I have stepped on any toes here.

**Chris** · January-4th-2007, 10:15 PM

Don't worry about it. But I have started to re-read my posts lately, and found myself cutting out alot of stuff I had written, because the second time around it didn't look so good. Perhaps we should all do that a little bit more.

Otherwise, let's keep talking and remember we are to shine the light on darkness, yet try to be pleasing to the Lord. :)

**bghtnpd4** · January-4th-2007, 11:43 PM

Great points Lori...very well said, sister!:)

**On the Right** · January-5th-2007, 08:46 AM

Personally I don't listen to him for any kind of religious direction or discernment. I listen because he is a good interviewer and asks tough questions.

**ScoobyDoo** · January-5th-2007, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by On the Right

Personally I don't listen to him for any kind of religious direction or discernment. I listen because he is a good interviewer and asks tough questions.

I agree!

Since Glenn Beck is a mormon he is not a born again believer and we should NOT look to him for any discernment. Discernment comes from the Holy Spirit through the Word of God. If Beck is a mormon then the HS does not reside in him and therefore neither does biblical discernment.

Anita

**mikalikat** · January-5th-2007, 12:43 PM

How can you guys say things like this? We have Mormons looking at these threads just like anyone else and the point is to draw people in, not make judgment calls and make them turn away. We do not know where Glenn Beck stands with regard to salvation unless you ask him personally. That is not our judgment to make unless we know for certain. Please, guys, be careful in choosing your words. This site is meant for harvest, not turning people away.

**BuzzardHut** · January-5th-2007, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by mikalikat

How can you guys say things like this? We have Mormons looking at these threads just like anyone else and the point is to draw people in, not make judgment calls and make them turn away. We do not know where Glenn Beck stands with regard to salvation unless you ask him personally. That is not our judgment to make unless we know for certain. Please, guys, be careful in choosing your words. This site is meant for harvest, not turning people away.

Mormons need to know of the real Jesus Christ, not an angel of light, or brother of Lucifer.
I have heard Glenn's 'searching' testimony and how he settled in with the Latter Day Saints.
Only born again believers possess the indwelling Holy Spirit.

**ScoobyDoo** · January-5th-2007, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by mikalikat

How can you guys say things like this? We have Mormons looking at these threads just like anyone else and the point is to draw people in, not make judgment calls and make them turn away. We do not know where Glenn Beck stands with regard to salvation unless you ask him personally. That is not our judgment to make unless we know for certain. Please, guys, be careful in choosing your words. This site is meant for harvest, not turning people away.

How will mormons know they are serving a false god if we don't tell them? Mormons are NOT born again believers. The Jesus they serve is NOT the Jesus of the bible. Or should we bring them in with sweet words as they are zooming toward eternal damnation. True love is telling the truth no matter how offensive.

YSIC

Anita

**bghtnpd4** · January-5th-2007, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by On the Right

Personally I don't listen to him for any kind of religious direction or discernment. I listen because he is a good interviewer and asks tough questions.

I'm with you...I certainly wouldn't look to a secular news talk show host on a secular news station (even if he does claim to be a conservative Christian) for any type of religious direction or even assume them to be discerning about religious subjects. Especially in an age when it's becoming painfully obvious that I must be very careful even taking direction and discernment from the pastors / teachers on the Christian channels.

And secondly, the verse that says we will know them by their fruit comes to mind when people say they are Christians but their behaviors / beliefs / ideas say the opposite. For me, it has become evident (as of late) that Mr. Beck does not hold the same beliefs as I do regarding necromancy, Islam, etc. So, therefore, I am the one who must be discerning given the evidence, on whether or not to keep watching his program.