Hundreds of North Korean Nuke Scientists in Iran

[Everlasting Life]

‘Hundreds’ of North Korean Nuke Scientists in Iran - Global Agenda - News - Israel National News


Hundreds of nuclear scientists from North Korea, whose leader Kim Jong-il died Saturday, are working in 10 different locations in Iran, The South Korean-based Korea Times reported this week.

North Korea has been known to be working closely with Iran, Pakistan and Syria on nuclear development, but the disclosure of the number of scientists in the Islamic Republic spells out the close ties between the two powers, part of what Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has called the ”axis of evil.”

The Korea Times quoted an unnamed source that the scientists and missile engineers are working at the Natanz and Qom sites, among others. Iran is operating a uranium enrichment plant at Natanz. Despite Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s denials, Israel and Western powers assume the objective of the enrichment plant is to use the uranium to build a nuclear weapon, while engineers try to build a missile capable of delivering it.

[Cricket55]

And is this a surprise....not.

[Sean Osborne]

I hate to be redundant, but this thread demands that I must.

The way threads appear on these Rapture Forums and then get relegated in very short order to the cellar of oblivion is part of the problem of using this forum to effectively inform all Christian brethren of IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

That being the case, I will repeat this one more time as loudly as I can, without being overbearing, as some here are wont to take a dim view of.

Iran and Syria are chock-full of North Korean nuclear weapons and missile technology experts. The North Korean nuclear test of 2006, and more recent tests have effectively been Iranian tests of those weapons because the Iranian's paid for them, lock, stock, and barrel.

Hello?

[BuzzardHut]

I hate to be redundant, but this thread demands that I must.

The way threads appear on these Rapture Forums and then get relegated in very short order to the cellar of oblivion is part of the problem of using this forum to effectively inform all Christian brethren of IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

That being the case, I will repeat this one more time as loudly as I can, without being overbearing, as some here are wont to take a dim view of.

Iran and Syria are chock-full of North Korean nuclear weapons and missile technology experts. The North Korean nuclear test of 2006, and more recent tests have effectively been Iranian tests of those weapons because the Iranian's paid for them, lock, stock, and barrel.

Hello?

Are you saying RF views nukes in Iran as tin foil cuz that's not the case.

[Sean Osborne]

Are you saying RF views nukes in Iran as tin foil cuz that's not the case.

Buzz,

No, I'm not saying that at all. What I said was redundant because it's been said on RF before, several RF times, on RF several threads. Then those threads disappear into the RF thread cellar never to be seen again.

I would think something of this import, to Israel as well as the rest of us, should be a sticky Iran-Syria nuke thread at the top of the forum. Such important information is priceless. It would give us a really accurate idea of how close Israel really is to striking Iran.

For example. Question: How many North Korean nuclear technicians bought the farm when Israel blew the Al-Kibar plutonium reactor to smithereens in September 2007? Answer: Hundreds of North Korean techs were building the Al-Kibar plutonium reactor; it was a virtual clone of North Korea's own Yongbyon plutonium reactor.

To repeat yet again, what I said was "Iran and Syria are chock-full of North Korean nuclear weapons and missile technology experts. The North Korean nuclear test of 2006, and more recent tests have effectively been Iranian tests of those weapons because the Iranian's paid for them, lock, stock, and barrel."

The Syrian-Al Kibar plutonium reactor was within weeks of start up when the IDF reduced it to rubble, but not before turning out all the lights and communications and air defense systems in Syria and Lebanon.

Maybe this thread will stick around awhile. It's important.

[Keeplookinup]

Buzz,

No, I'm not saying that at all. What I said was redundant because it's been said on RF before, several RF times, on RF several threads. Then those threads disappear into the RF thread cellar never to be seen again.

I would think something of this import, to Israel as well as the rest of us, should be a sticky Iran-Syria nuke thread at the top of the forum. Such important information is priceless. It would give us a really accurate idea of how close Israel really is to striking Iran.

For example. Question: How many North Korean nuclear technicians bought the farm when Israel blew the Al-Kibar plutonium reactor to smithereens in September 2007? Answer: Hundreds of North Korean techs were building the Al-Kibar plutonium reactor; it was a virtual clone of North Korea's own Yongbyon plutonium reactor.

To repeat yet again, what I said was "Iran and Syria are chock-full of North Korean nuclear weapons and missile technology experts. The North Korean nuclear test of 2006, and more recent tests have effectively been Iranian tests of those weapons because the Iranian's paid for them, lock, stock, and barrel."

The Syrian-Al Kibar plutonium reactor was within weeks of start up when the IDF reduced it to rubble, but not before turning out all the lights and communications and air defense systems in Syria and Lebanon.

Maybe this thread will stick around awhile. It's important.

Great idea! STICKY REQUEST!

[SonSeeker]

Hundreds of nuclear scientists from North Korea, whose leader Kim Jong-il died Saturday, are working in 10 different locations in Iran, The South Korean-based Korea Times reported this week.

If they are working in 10 different locations, that would make it much more difficult to effectively eradicate their entire nuke program.

The internal strife in Syria seems to be getting worse, ditto for Egypt, so the entire region could boil over at any time.

[Everlasting Life]

I think that this article shows that certain countries (quite a few actually), with the same hatred for Israel/America do not work independently of one another, but rather are very much in cahoots with the same goals. Destroy Israel and America, or at the very least weaken these countries greatly. It's a connect the dots kind of information.

I may have missed something...but it seems that Korea has been fairly quiet as of late, or at the most just saber rattling while focusing on helping Iran for a mutual goal.

[Carl]

Buzz,

No, I'm not saying that at all. What I said was redundant because it's been said on RF before, several RF times, on RF several threads. Then those threads disappear into the RF thread cellar never to be seen again.

I would think something of this import, to Israel as well as the rest of us, should be a sticky Iran-Syria nuke thread at the top of the forum. Such important information is priceless. It would give us a really accurate idea of how close Israel really is to striking Iran.

For example. Question: How many North Korean nuclear technicians bought the farm when Israel blew the Al-Kibar plutonium reactor to smithereens in September 2007? Answer: Hundreds of North Korean techs were building the Al-Kibar plutonium reactor; it was a virtual clone of North Korea's own Yongbyon plutonium reactor.

To repeat yet again, what I said was "Iran and Syria are chock-full of North Korean nuclear weapons and missile technology experts. The North Korean nuclear test of 2006, and more recent tests have effectively been Iranian tests of those weapons because the Iranian's paid for them, lock, stock, and barrel."

The Syrian-Al Kibar plutonium reactor was within weeks of start up when the IDF reduced it to rubble, but not before turning out all the lights and communications and air defense systems in Syria and Lebanon.

Maybe this thread will stick around awhile. It's important.

I agree with Sean. There are times that I do not post because I knew there was an earlier thread that was background, but couldn't find it.

[Sean Osborne]

For example. Question: How many North Korean nuclear technicians bought the farm when Israel blew the Al-Kibar plutonium reactor to smithereens in September 2007? Answer: Hundreds of North Korean techs were building the Al-Kibar plutonium reactor; it was a virtual clone of North Korea's own Yongbyon plutonium reactor.

To repeat yet again, what I said was "Iran and Syria are chock-full of North Korean nuclear weapons and missile technology experts. The North Korean nuclear test of 2006, and more recent tests have effectively been Iranian tests of those weapons because the Iranian's paid for them, lock, stock, and barrel."

Apparently a Rapture Forums 'sticky thread' on this important subject is too much to ask for; I had to go digging to find this thread again. It had only been freshly buried for 11 days and thankfully did not require really deep digging to retrieve, otherwise I'd have given up and done my thing elsewhere.

North Korean nuclear weapons development and missile technology engineers are now known to have been among the dead in the massive explosion on 12 November at the IRGC al-Ghadeer missile facility. Here's a South Korean report which was posted 30 DEC 2011 (yesterday).

North Korean Engineers Among Dead in Last Month's Explosion at Iran Missile Base

North Korean engineers were among the over 30 people killed in last month's explosion at an Iranian missile base.
Japan's Sankei Shimbun newspaper reports that 5 North Korean engineers died in the November 12th accident 3 of whom specialized in nuclear weapons development.

Another 2 North Korean engineers suffered injuries from the same blast.

The same report which says teams of engineers from Iran, North Korea and Syria were seen collaborating earlier this month pointed to a cozy weapons development relationship between the three nations.

[mattfivefour]

Sean, I think everybody here KNOWS that North Korean nuclear experts are swarming all over Iran and also Syria and that Iran has obtained its nuclear weapon technology from NK. Nonetheless, for the time-being at least, I have stickied this thread to make it easy for you to find and update and also so those who may not have read it (it does have 292 views) can do so.

[WKUHilltopper]

Iran and Syria are chock-full of North Korean nuclear weapons and missile technology experts. The North Korean nuclear test of 2006, and more recent tests have effectively been Iranian tests of those weapons because the Iranian's paid for them, lock, stock, and barrel.

Not only that, I think they're the one's who fired a missile toward Hawaii about 2008 or thereabouts. Not to mention one off the coast of CA about a year or so ago too.

Your "loving and watchdog" MSM has been interestingly silent on this--because they know to admit the NK/Iranian connection would require ObaMao to respond to it. Which would interfere with his vacations and golf tee-time.

[Carl]

Not only that, I think they're the one's who fired a missile toward Hawaii about 2008 or thereabouts. Not to mention one off the coast of CA about a year or so ago too.

Your "loving and watchdog" MSM has been interestingly silent on this--because they know to admit the NK/Iranian connection would require ObaMao to respond to it. Which would interfere with his vacations and golf tee-time.

And don't forget the one that went to Alaska.

[brethorn56]

Buzz,

No, I'm not saying that at all. What I said was redundant because it's been said on RF before, several RF times, on RF several threads. Then those threads disappear into the RF thread cellar never to be seen again.

I would think something of this import, to Israel as well as the rest of us, should be a sticky Iran-Syria nuke thread at the top of the forum. Such important information is priceless. It would give us a really accurate idea of how close Israel really is to striking Iran.

For example. Question: How many North Korean nuclear technicians bought the farm when Israel blew the Al-Kibar plutonium reactor to smithereens in September 2007? Answer: Hundreds of North Korean techs were building the Al-Kibar plutonium reactor; it was a virtual clone of North Korea's own Yongbyon plutonium reactor.

To repeat yet again, what I said was "Iran and Syria are chock-full of North Korean nuclear weapons and missile technology experts. The North Korean nuclear test of 2006, and more recent tests have effectively been Iranian tests of those weapons because the Iranian's paid for them, lock, stock, and barrel."

The Syrian-Al Kibar plutonium reactor was within weeks of start up when the IDF reduced it to rubble, but not before turning out all the lights and communications and air defense systems in Syria and Lebanon.

Maybe this thread will stick around awhile. It's important.

Sean,

Recognizing there are multiple sites in Iran and I would suspect that most if not all are deeply planted underground, is it possible to incapacitate Iran’s program in one coordinated strike? Also, can Israel or the US or both strike with conventional weapons or do they go nuclear?

By the way, in my personal and limited opinion, I believe these sites have to be neutralized for the protection of Israel.

[WKUHilltopper]

And don't forget the one that went to Alaska.

Ahhh, yes...the Alaska one too. Feel safe yet?

[Sean Osborne]

Recognizing there are multiple sites in Iran and I would suspect that most if not all are deeply planted underground, is it possible to incapacitate Iran’s program in one coordinated strike?

Yes, it is very possible to do this in just one coordinated strike. However, the thing is that such a strike will have one or more phases to it, and might last from a few days to a week or more. The pattern is likely to be one of strike followed by real-time battle damage assessment (BDA) followed by re-strikes or new strikes and more BDA until an assessment is reached to no more strikes are necessary, the objective has been accomplished.

Also, can Israel or the US or both strike with conventional weapons or do they go nuclear?

Either of us, and or our allies, would use conventional munitions or ordnance. Deep bunkers are excellent targets because they seal any resultant collateral radioactive waste deep under ground. Surface facilities would cause a greater problem for mission planners, so in this respect Iran has done themselves and us a big favor.

By the way, in my personal and limited opinion, I believe these sites have to be neutralized for the protection of Israel.

Me too. This is precisely the kind of thing Jesus was referring to when He spoke of "wars and rumors of wars." There is nothing for us to fear from this.

[Sean Osborne]

The theory that an Israeli or U.S. coordinated attack, could eliminate the Iranian nuclear program consisting of several underground facilities, over a period of days can only be expected to be a success if there is no immediate and coordinated response by Iranian allies, including Russia and China!

Negative. That is not the "only" path to a successful de-nuclearization of the Islamic Republic of Iran. I suggest you read what God has to say about it in Jeremiah 49:34-39 because the sword that is sent after them is His sword for His Divine purposes.

Frankly, I do not believe Israel, the U.S. or our N.A.T.O. allies will strike Iran...

Fine. So you deny the Lord's prophetic Word. It's your free will to disagree with what He has said through the prophet Jeremiah, and alluded to by the prophet Asaph in Psalm 83. Do more reading of His Word and less thinking of your own.

Israel will however remain a nation forever that we can be confident of!

Quite incorrect according to the prophecy of Jesus Christ in His Olivet Discourse, the Book of Daniel and The Revelation of Jesus Christ as revealed by God Himself to Jesus as revealed to John on Patmos.

[Sean Osborne]

Sean, Amos 9:15, Jeremiah 31:36, maybe this will help with your reading!

Read them again in their proper context. They are both post-70th Week promises of new covenant from God to all Israel.

[Sean Osborne]

Sorry for the interruption. Getting back to the thread topic... this is a just posted report from Japan that is probably related to the recent announcement concerning enrichment activities occurring at the underground Fordo complex near Qom.

Iran envoys visited N. Korea in Nov., possibly on uranium enrichment

TOKYO (Kyodo) -- An Iranian defense delegation visited North Korea in late November for talks with key officials, including military chief of staff Ri Yong Ho, apparently to confirm continued military cooperation and discuss advanced centrifuge technologies related to uranium enrichment, an informed Western diplomatic source said Saturday.

The source familiar with Tehran-Pyongyang relations said information on the visit by a delegation from Iran's Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics was confirmed by various Iranians concerned.

Ri, chief of the General Staff of the Korean People's Army, is a core member of the new leadership under Kim Jong Un, third son of the late leader Kim Jong Il. He is on a par in status with Kim's sister Kyong Hui, a department director of the ruling party, and her husband Jang Song Thaek, vice chairman of the National Defense Commission.

North Korea fostered close ties with Iran in areas such as ballistic missiles under Kim Jong Il. The Iranian government is believed to have received several assurances from North Korea after Kim Jong Il's death that the special relationship will continue under his successor Kim Jong Un.

The United States and some other nations believe North Korea may have developed more advanced uranium enrichment technologies than Iran and are tightening their guard against any possible attempt by North Korea's new leadership to sell such technologies as a new source of foreign income.

The visit to North Korea is also believed to be part of Iran's efforts to seek ways to cover up its cooperation with the country and overseas procurement channels following the release of a report by the International Atomic Energy Agency last November warning of suspicions that the Middle Eastern country is developing nuclear weapons, the source said.

The Iranian Embassy in Tokyo has denied any bilateral nuclear cooperation with North Korea, saying in an e-mail to Kyodo News that Iran "does not have any kind of cooperation with (the) DPRK in nuclear or military technology fields."

DPRK is the acronym for North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

North Korea has also dismissed the allegations, describing them in a November commentary by the official Korean Central News Agency as slander by the country's enemies.

According to the source, the three-member Iranian delegation met Ri and other senior officials during a four-day visit to North Korea. It was learned that one of the topics discussed was "maraging steel and high explosives," although further details and results of the talks remain unknown.

Maraging steel is essential for P-2 type centrifuges, developed by the now-disgraced Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan based on European technologies. Japan and other countries concerned about the latest developments are analyzing the information as maraging steel can also be put to use in ballistic missiles, the source said.

David Albright, president of U.S. think tank Institute for Science and International Security, said he is "pretty worried" there might be nuclear cooperation between Tehran and Pyongyang, saying North Korea "could have incentives" to cooperate with Iran over issues where they may be having troubles.

"Iran knows how to make carbon fiber rotors better than North Korea...(and) North Korea appears to be able to make P-2s better than Iran...so there's...areas of potential cooperation that I would worry about," he said in a recent telephone interview with Kyodo News.

The IAEA's report in November warned that Iran may have conducted experiments associated with detonator development and high explosives, and that its engineers were believed to be studying how to integrate a nuclear payload into the chamber of the Shahab 3 intermediate-range missile.

An undisclosed report by a panel of U.N. experts on sanctions against Pyongyang, obtained recently by Kyodo News, concluded in January last year that North Korea "must have been developing its (uranium enrichment) capability for at least a decade."

It also said that while Iran appeared to have concentrated first on the older P-1 type centrifuges, North Korea got a head start by focusing from the beginning on the more advanced P-2 type and had cooperated more closely with Khan than Iran did.

It is possible Iran is seeking assistance from North Korea as it is believed to have not yet been able to put its P-2 centrifuge development on track. A diplomatic source familiar with Iranian internal affairs said that as of the end of 2008, about 300 North Korean technicians had been dispatched to Iran.

The source added that North Korea's ability to defy international sanctions and procure necessary resources to proceed with its nuclear development programs also appeared to appeal to Tehran.

(Mainichi Japan) January 9, 2012

[mattfivefour]

Good info, Sean. Thanks. Lines up with my own.