Hundreds of North Korean Nuke Scientists in Iran

[Sean Osborne]

Good info, Sean. Thanks. Lines up with my own.

Ah, excellent Matt! We must be using the same search criteria when "data mining."

[Sean Osborne]

Heads up ... Unilateral Israeli military action against Iran appears to be imminent. This evening in Amsterdam, The Netherlands, a visiting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a speech: "Iran already decided to become a nuclear state... Action must be taken before it is too late..."

Short of Israeli strikes, any additional and immediate sanctions or an embargo on Iranian oil exports will spark a regional war with the Strait of Hormuz becoming the flash point for hostilities.

Jerusalem Post article posted a short while ago: PM: Iran already decided to become a nuclear state

[dcbrott99]

Heads up ... Unilateral Israeli military action against Iran appears to be imminent. This evening in Amsterdam, The Netherlands, a visiting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a speech: "Iran already decided to become a nuclear state... Action must be taken before it is too late..."

Short of Israeli strikes, any additional and immediate sanctions or an embargo on Iranian oil exports will spark a regional war with the Strait of Hormuz becoming the flash point for hostilities.

Jerusalem Post article posted a short while ago: PM: Iran already decided to become a nuclear state

Come Lord Jesus Come!

[Sean Osborne]

Excerpt from the DEBKAfile Net Weekly of 21 January 2012:

Maj. Gen. (ret.) Asher Yadlin, until last year Israel chief of military intelligence, maintained in a detailed article in the Tel Aviv [Hebrew language] daily Maariv: "If Iranian leaders were to convene tonight and decide to go ahead with the secret production of a nuclear bomb, they already possess the resources and components for doing so. [As matters stand] now, Iran's nuclear timeline no longer hinges on the calendar; it rest entirely on a decision in Tehran."

[Chris]

Excerpt from the DEBKAfile Net Weekly of 21 January 2012:

Maj. Gen. (ret.) Asher Yadlin, until last year Israel chief of military intelligence, maintained in a detailed article in the Tel Aviv [Hebrew language] daily Maariv: "If Iranian leaders were to convene tonight and decide to go ahead with the secret production of a nuclear bomb, they already possess the resources and components for doing so. [As matters stand] now, Iran's nuclear timeline no longer hinges on the calendar; it rest entirely on a decision in Tehran."

I'm wonder what is holding Israel up from making a move? Surely each day that passes is another day the Iranians get further and further along with their evil nuclear program. I just don't understand what the wait is for??

[Sean Osborne]

I'm wonder what is holding Israel up from making a move? Surely each day that passes is another day the Iranians get further and further along with their evil nuclear program. I just don't understand what the wait is for??

To a very large extent I believe the Israeli hold-off is due to geopolitical considerations. Such a preemptive strike is guaranteed to start a major regional war that will have economic repercussions over the entire planet; everyone living on planet earth will be affected in some manner.

In prophetic terms an Israel preemptive strike on Iran could well be the catalyst for the fullfillment of Isaiah 17 which leads to Jeremiah 49:34-39, which leads to Joshua 13:1-7, which leads to Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 35 which ultiamtely leads to Ezekiel 38-39 which ultimately leads to the advent of the 70th Week and all that those 7 years will bring upon the earth.

For these reasons I believe Israel is waiting until the last possible minute to go it alone, hoping instead that a great coalition between the USA/EU and the Sunni Arabs countries decides to act before Iran actually assembles its first indignenous nuclear weapon. A coalition strike is what I believe Jeremiah 49:34-39 is describing.

Israel is consciously but unknowningly (because they are currently in a state of non-belief) attempting to avoid the global repercusions described in a pair of closing verses (12 and 13) of Isaiah 17:

Woe to the multitude of many people
Who make a noise like the roar of the seas,
And to the rushing of nations
That make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
The nations will rush like the rushing of many waters;
But God will rebuke them and they will flee far away,
And be chased like the chaff of the mountains before the wind,
Like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.

Note the similarities from the above context and that found in three closing verses (13 thru 15) of Psalm 83:

O my God, make them like the whirling dust,
Like the chaff before the wind!
As the fire burns the woods,
And as the flame sets the mountains on fire,
So pursue them with Your tempest,
And frighten them with Your storm.

For the above prophetic sequences I believe Isaiah 17 immeduately preceeds Psalm 83 in fulfillment.
Israel will be free of world interfence in the Psalm 83 task assigned to israel that must take place for God's will to be manifest.

[Elijah's Mantle]

wow I knew but I did not know some of the info contained is a need to keep

yes should be stickyied

[Elijah's Mantle]

Negative. That is not the "only" path to a successful de-nuclearization of the Islamic Republic of Iran. I suggest you read what God has to say about it in Jeremiah 49:34-39 because the sword that is sent after them is His sword for His Divine purposes.

ties together something I was searching out that I put in a thread I can't find it

If I do i'll bump it because there is something very important I want to ask

[Sean Osborne]

And the Russians accuse us of being "hysterical."

MEMRI Special Dispatch No. 4475–Iran/Syria/U.S. and the Arab and Muslim World/Libya

Former Member of Russian Joint Chiefs of Staff Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov: Russia Is Ready to Use Military Power to Defend Iran and Syria; Attack on Syria or Iran Is Indirect Attack on Russia; U.S. in Libya Like Hitler in Poland

Click the link above for the full report. It has a certain "wow" factor to it.

[livin_in_the_Son]

And the Russians accuse us of being "hysterical."

MEMRI Special Dispatch No. 4475–Iran/Syria/U.S. and the Arab and Muslim World/Libya

Former Member of Russian Joint Chiefs of Staff Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov: Russia Is Ready to Use Military Power to Defend Iran and Syria; Attack on Syria or Iran Is Indirect Attack on Russia; U.S. in Libya Like Hitler in Poland

Click the link above for the full report. It has a certain "wow" factor to it.

Did I read that wrong, or did Ivashov really say that Russia had to protect against fascism? Wouldn't Syria, and Iran, sort of qualify as fascists regimes?

[Sean Osborne]

Did I read that wrong, or did Ivashov really say that Russia had to protect against fascism? Wouldn't Syria, and Iran, sort of qualify as fascists regimes?

Yes, a rational person would think that. Yet this retired Colonel-General from the Russian Chiefs of Staff believes the West and Israel are the modern-day fascists of this world and it's Russia duty to defend the whole world from us. A Russian Colonel-General is the equivalent to a 3-star US general.

[mattfivefour]

Just shows there are idiots on BOTH sides!

[WKUHilltopper]

And the Russians accuse us of being "hysterical."

U.S. in Libya Like Hitler in Poland[/B]

Oh really now? Have the Rooskies already forgotten that two weeks after the Nazis invaded Poland on Sept 1st, the Russians took the other half?? And all without a formal declaration of war...

Memory of convenience, eh?

[Duncanmc]

I think that NK is more advanced than Iran in nuclear and missile technology so they are probably working on both the miniaturization of a warhead as well as the missile to carry it. I've assumed a regional war due to Iran's adventurism but now I'm concerned it will spiral out of the region and engulf the world. Even if the violence doesn't spread, the economic impact could be a harsh blow to the world economy.
The good news is that every day brings us closer to His glorious appearing!

[Chris]

I think that NK is more advanced than Iran in nuclear and missile technology so they are probably working on both the miniaturization of a warhead as well as the missile to carry it. I've assumed a regional war due to Iran's adventurism but now I'm concerned it will spiral out of the region and engulf the world. Even if the violence doesn't spread, the economic impact could be a harsh blow to the world economy.
The good news is that every day brings us closer to His glorious appearing!

You're absolutely right!! Keep looking up!!

[Sean Osborne]

It is good that mattfivefour made this thread into a sticky a while back. I was insistent on this because I have known for some time now (years in-fact, long before I ever came to RF) that the importance of this thread is absolutely top-shelf - ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIMING OF AN ISRAELI OR JOINT US-ISRAELI STRIKE ON IRANIAN NUCLEAR INFRASTRUCTURE.

Of the things I stated back at the beginning... one item was, in particular, overlooked by all. Perhaps now it will become clear to all of its imperative importance relative to the timing of a war-starting strike upon Iranian nuclear infrastructure. In red bold for emphasis.

Posted by myself on 19 December 2011: "Iran and Syria are chock-full of North Korean nuclear weapons and missile technology experts. The North Korean nuclear test of 2006, and more recent tests have effectively been Iranian tests of those weapons because the Iranian's paid for them, lock, stock, and barrel. Hello?"

In today's issue of Israel's YNetnews.com you will find the following report:

Report: Iran held nuclear test in N. Korea

German press says Tehran, Pyongyang collaborated on possibly more than one nuclear test in early 2010

Ynet Published: 03.05.12, 08:32 / Israel News

Germany's Die Welt newspaper reported Sunday that Iran held at least one nuclear weapons test in North Korea in 2010.

The paper's report is based on "Western intelligence agencies sources," and says that the test, in fact, refutes US intelligence assessments suggesting there is no "hard evidence" that Iran is building nuclear weapons.

The International Atomic Energy Agency has recently declared that its nuclear negotiations with Iran have failed. The statement followed Tehran's decision the bar IAEA inspectors from what is believed to be key military sites in the Islamic Republic. Iran vehemently claims that its nuclear program is meant to serve civil, peaceful purposes only. The Die Welt noted that evidence of the 2010 nuclear tests in North Korea was published in early February in Nature Magazine. According to the report, Swedish nuclear physicist Lars-Erik de Geer analyzed data "showing the presence of radioisotopes that betrayed a uranium bomb explosion."

"After a year of work, (de Geer) concluded that North Korea carried out two small nuclear tests in April and May 2010 that caused explosions in the range of 50–200 tons of TNT equivalent. "The types and ratios of isotopes detected… suggest that North Korea was testing materials and techniques intended to boost the yield of its weapons," the report said.

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What is the ultimate red-line for an Israeli strike on Iran? The US? What is the red-line for Saudi Arabian development of similar weaponry - and why must Israel prevent that similar development at all costs?

North Korea is the key to the Iranian nuclear weapons program. Period. Given these tests occured some time ago, and given that the US (Obama Administration) just reached an agreement with North Korea on the cessation of such activities - perhaps the North Korean's agreed to the deal because Iran has already received what it paid for, lock, stock and barrel.

[Sean Osborne]

DEBKAfile has a rather detailed report on this North Korean testing. Confirms my on independent analysis posted here and elsewhere on RF.

DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security

North Korea tested Iranian warhead or “dirty bomb” in 2010 for $55m

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report March 5, 2012, 1:19 PM (GMT+02:00)

German and Japanese intelligence sources Monday, March 5, confirmed – and qualified - to debkafile reports in the German Der Spiegel and Welt am Sonntag that Western intelligence had known for 11 months that at least one of North Korea’s covert nuclear tests in 2010 was carried out on an Iranian radioactive bomb or nuclear warhead.

Those sources report five facts are known for sure:

1. North Korea carried out two covert underground nuclear explosions in mid-April and around May 11 of 2010 equivalent to 50- 200 tonnes of TNT.

2. Two highly lethal heavy hydrogen isotopes, deuterium and tritium, typical of a nuclear fission explosion and producing long-term contamination of the atmosphere, were detected and analyzed by Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBOTO) monitoring stations in South Korea, Japan and Russia.

3. The presence of tritium in one of the tests led several intelligence agencies watching North Korea’s nuclear program and its longstanding links with Iran and Syria to examine the possibility that Pyongyang had tested the internal mechanism of a nuclear warhead on Iran’s behalf. This strongly indicated to German and Japanese intelligence that Iran had already developed the nuclear warhead’s outer shell and attained its weaponization.
4. Another possibility examined was that North Korea had tested an Iranian “dirty bomb” – i.e. a conventionally detonated device containing nuclear substances. Tritium would boost its range, force and lethality.

This was one of the conclusions of atmospheric scientist Larsk-Erik De Geer of the Swedish Defense Research Agency in Stockholm, who spent a year studying the data collected by various CTBOTO stations tracking the North Korean explosions.

On February 3, De Greer published some of his findings and conclusions in Nature Magazine. His paper will appear in the April/May issue of the Science and Global Security Journal.

5. The Japanese and German sources found confirmation of their suspicions that North Korea had abetted Iran’s nuclear aspirations in three events:

a) Shortly after the April explosion, a large group of Iranian nuclear scientists and technicians arrived in Pyongyang. They apparently came to take part in setting up the second test in May.
b) In late April, Tehran shipped to Pyongyang a large quantity of uranium enriched to 20+ percent – apparently for use in the May test.
c) Straight after the May test, the Central Bank of Iran transferred $55 million to the account of the North Korean Atomic Energy Commission. The size of the sum suggests that it covered the fee to North Korea not just of one but the two tests – the first a pilot and the second, a full-stage test.

It is not by chance that this incriminating disclosure about Iran’s nuclear achievements sees the light Monday, just hours before US Barack Obama receives Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu in the White house for an argument over an expeditious military action to stop Iran going all the way to a nuclear weapon.
The disclosure invalidates the main point the US President made in his speech Sunday to the pro-Israeli lobby AIPAC convention in Washington that there was still time for diplomatic pressure and sanctions to bring Iran’s leaders to a decision to halt their nuclear momentum before military action was called for, whether by the US or Israel.

It now appears that Western intelligence has known about the North Korean tests for Iran for eleven months. Therefore, it is too late for him to try and persuade the Israeli prime minister that there is still time to spare for cutting short a nuclear Iran.

It was announced in Washington Monday that no joint American-Israeli communiqué would be issued at the end of their talks, meaning they will have agreed to disagree: Obama, to stand by his opposition to military action against Iran; Netanyahu, to decide what Israel must do in the interests of its security.
There is no doubt he would have preferred an American initiative for - or partnership in - an operation for curtailing the Iranian nuclear threat. But that is not part of Obama’s policy.

[Elijah's Mantle]

AWESOME WORK SEAN

Praying fervently for Bibi

Israel has to act
with or without Obama

Rather critical scenario militarily speaking I must say


All while Obama was appeasing Putin, for Syria

I smell a real rat with a illegitimate Birth certificate

[Sean Osborne]

Said it before; sayin' it now -- Git'R'Done.

[WKUHilltopper]

Said it before; sayin' it now -- Git'R'Done.

I'd like to know what really went on in Bibbi's meeting with ObaMao. We haven't had any tornadoes or earthquakes for a couple of days now, so maybe it's all good?