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    Turkey voices readiness for war with the Zionist regime


    And the world gears up for War!..Pakistan warns America,Syria,Iran are teaming up with Libya,Egypt Just as prophesied!!They are talking nuclear war with Israel,China wants to take Out India,and take back Taiwan..
    And prophesy is moving faster and faster each day..I mean who 10,20 years would have said Turkey,Libya and Egypt
    Would ally woud Iran??????Except those who know bible prophecy!!!!These are exciting but dangerous days..Days
    the prophets saw,but would love to be wittnessing what they wrote..Were fourtunate we are living the things we read about!!!!!!

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    These really are exciting times, Littlejoe and we are so privileged to be witnessing these things! I've often thought when we're in heaven that we will be asked what it was like to live in these times seeing prophecy being played out.





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    Iran English Radio??? This about HAS to be an unreliable source!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg View Post
    Iran English Radio??? This about HAS to be an unreliable source!
    He said it on the PBS show the Charlie Rose program..
    Here Is the full program,where he states war readiness for Israel..




    Charlie Rose - Recep Tayyip Erdogan

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    I mean who 10,20 years would have said Turkey,Libya and Egypt
    Would ally woud Iran??????Except those who know bible prophecy!!!!These are exciting but dangerous days..Days
    the prophets saw,but would love to be wittnessing what they wrote..Were fourtunate we are living the things we read about!!!!!!

    precisely
    back then it looked rather a remote possibility
    wow how time flies and things change

    I believe we will see it all form together in this season of great uncertainty
    hopefully even the politicians will read the book now
    and grasp what ""thus sayeth the Lord "" as hard a notion as that is for them to wrap there high minds around
    some will
    most wont

    everything is blossoming into what we have been reading about will have to occur
    for the body of Christ it is of great importance

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    Do you see this war taking place shortly after the rapture?
    1 Timothy 2:3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

    These words are some of the most powerful ones expressing clear teaching against determinism or “so called soft determinism."

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    Do you see this war taking place shortly after the rapture?
    being they have announced readiness
    I sure hope were not here to see this war
    we could see a lot or a little even still we know the Nations are getting
    war ready and lining up

    only God knows
    the hour


    If we see anything shortly after the rapture
    it will be from the prepared place balcony
    imagine that view

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    Here is the transcript of Recep Tayyip Erdogan in an interview with Fareed Zakaria on his CNN International program "GPS" last night (25 SEP 11): (emphasis added)

    ZAKARIA: Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for joining us.

    REYEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN, PRIME MINISTER OF TURKEY (through translator): I would like to thank you for preparing such an opportunity for me.

    ZAKARIA: Let me ask you about one of your neighbors with whom you have had some trouble, Israel. Do you think relations between Turkey and Israel are broken? Can they ever get back to what they were?

    ERDOGAN (through translator): For the time being, I can clearly and frankly state that the relations between Israel and Turkey have been broken on the basis of an issue that is being raised by Israel, which began when the flotilla bearing humanitarian aid was trying to get to Gaza.

    It had passengers from 33 different countries and was attacked both from the sea and the air. At the end of these attacks, nine Turkish citizens died. One of them is an American citizen of Turkish descent and the American citizen's rights have not been defended by the United States.

    Still, to this day, no serious attitude has been adopted against Israel for the life lost there. Is it because he was of Turkish descent? We're very upset about this. In this situation, no matter who we are speaking about, democracy, rights, and freedom should be defended.

    Whoever, whoever is in question if rights, if liberty is in question, it should be defended. We gave our warnings to Israel. This is the reason for war. This is something you cannot do in international waters, but as a great state, we have been very forgiving. That's why we have been very patient.

    We've demanded they apologize, pay compensation, and eliminate the embargo on Gaza once and for all. If these demands are not met, relations between Turkey and Israel will never become normal again. We have nothing against the people of Israel, but against the attitude adopted by the administration of Israel.

    And if you're insistent on creating a source of unrest, you are bound to become lonelier and lonelier. They used to be good friends of ours, and this solitude is Israel's fate under these circumstances. Israel is going to be alone in the region.

    ZAKARIA: Do you believe that there will be Turkish escorts for the next flotillas that go into Gaza, that go and try to break the embargo?

    ERDOGAN (through translator): It might be Gaza. It might be Egypt for which there are humanitarian missions. But after such an incident took place, there is a lack of confidence in security. So these flotillas might be dispatched to wherever they're going with the escort of the navy because Israel cannot be trusted.

    ZAKARAI: Were you very close to a deal that the Obama administration was trying to arrive at between the Turkish government and the Israeli government, and did the Israeli government at the last minute back out?

    ERDOGAN (through translator): We have conveyed our impressions to Mr. Obama along with many different related institutions. Turkey is very frank in its delivery, and we stand behind our remarks. Here's what's being said, and this is upsetting to hear. They say that Palestine is bombing and disturbing the people of Israel, and many Israelis have been killed.

    I'm very clear in my remarks. I would like to see accurate statistics of how many Israelis have been killed by the bombs thrown by Palestinians or with the rockets that were launched by them, 10, 20, 100, 200, how many? Please document it. Let us know.

    But on the other hand, we know that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were killed. Only as a result of the Gaza attack, thousands of people were killed. These are very clear remarks. The Israeli people are only resorting back to the issue of genocide in history.

    And using that genocide, they're always acting as if they are the victims all the time. We said for that, go ask Germany to pay its dues, and they have. So Germany has paid and is still paying its dues to Israel. But neither turkey nor the Muslims in the region have such a problem.

    They have never exerted such cruelty on Israel, but Israel is very cruel in that regard. It shows no mercy. I can never forget the screams of the children that were killed on that beach while trying to hide behind the legs of their fathers or while their fathers were trying to protect them in their arms.

    I can never forget those scenes because I am a father, too. At home with my wife, my children, we watched those scenes together. I saw seven people getting killed as a result of one attack. These are the Israeli acts that are inexplicable.

    If you want normalization, you have to take certain steps to restore peace and stop causing unrest. Israel possesses nuclear bombs. Israel possesses heavy weaponry. Israel possesses phosphorous bombs and weapons of mass destruction. What is it they don't have?

    They have it all, but I might ask you the same question -- what does Palestine possess? How do you think Palestine is capable of killing as many Israeli people as claimed? Let's stop deceiving each other because the human race will no longer be deceived. Everybody knows what Israel is about.


    ZAKARIA: Syria, it seems to me that the way Turkey's diplomacy moved on the Syrian issue, that you were deceived by the Syrian government and were given assurances that they would cease their violence and that those assurances were then not followed through.

    Many people would say that this was obvious, that Assad was a brutal dictator. But yet, you trusted him. You vacationed with him. Do you think you misjudged him? Do you think you made a mistake?

    ERDOGAN (through translator): Let me say we never had a vacation together. He has only been my invitee. I had always invited him to come to our region, which is known to be a holiday region for the Turkish people. He was our guest, but we never vacationed together. But every time he would come to Turkey, of course, we would get together and talk about the relations between Syria and Turkey in the same way I went to Syria several times, and then there were meetings with our president, as well.

    Let me say something very frankly and currently. We act on principles. Principles, these principles are the determining factors for me. You and I, we can be friends, brothers today.

    But if one day you clash with the determining principles of democracy and if you are going to act against the fundamental rights, liberties, and the law, you will lose your position in my heart as my brother and my friend.

    This is exactly what happened. I was very patient. Patience, patience, patience and then I cracked.

    ZAKARIA: Do you believe, Prime Minister, that the current government of Syria can last? Do you think one year from now Bashar Assad will still be president of Syria?

    ERDOGAN (through translator): There is something I always say -- you can never be happy through tyranny or cruelty. You can never remain in power through cruelty. You can never stand before the will of the people.

    This process might be extended a little bit more, but sooner or later in Syria, if people take a different decision, that decision is going to be catered to such as in Egypt, such as in Tunisia, such as in Libya.

    People want to be free, and they are struggling to earn that freedom. One by one, dictatorial systems are burning down to the ground. Autocratic systems are getting eliminated once and for all to move toward democratic systems.

    (END VIDEOTAPE)

    ZAKARIA: Much more with Turkey's prime minister coming up in just a moment. Is he leading his nation down an Islamist path, and what about his relationship with the west, and what does he think of President Obama? We'll be right back.

    (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

    ZAKARIA: And we are back with Turkey's Prime Minister, Tayyip Erdogan, the power broker of the Middle East, to talk about Islam and democracy and the west.

    (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

    ZAKARIA: A lot of people will listen to you and will see your actions particularly in the United States, and they say that this is part of a new Islamic foreign policy that Turkey has, that you are embracing a kind of foreign policy that is very different from what Turkey has pursued since the time of Ataturk. And it is an effort to bring a kind of Islamic ideology to turkey's foreign policy. How would you respond?

    ERDOGAN (through translator): Mr. Zakaria, this is how I perceive the situation. We are a team focused on common intellect. We don't want to see the clash of civilizations in this world. We want to see the alliance of civilizations.

    The world is so fed up with wars. Trillions and trillions of dollars are being allocated to weaponry to the armament industry. That's not the kind of world that people want to live in anymore.

    ZAKARIA: The question, though, that many people have is, are you taking Turkey down a different path since the time of Ataturk? Are you taking it on a foreign policy that will be not pro-western anymore, that is not -- does not see its historical destiny with the west that is more Islamic, that is more populist?

    When you go to Cairo now, you have become a rock star. There are big photographs and posters of you because of your embrace of the Palestinian position. Is this a new populist, Islamic, Turkish foreign policy?

    ERDOGAN (translator): Mr. Zakaria, I'm not a rock star, I'm a politician. But I can say very clearly that, look, everything that the western world does is not necessarily right. We work on adopting the science of the west. We work on adopting whatever has been developed and whatever is beautiful in the west.

    But let's not forget there are really beautiful things in the east, as well. Do not leave the eastern parts of the world aside. We're always running after science, after intellect, we seek out knowledge from whichever part of the world that is most of that, then we extract and adopt it.

    ZAKARIA: You've tried to maintain good relations with Iran. But you have recently agreed to site an American radar on Turkish territory, and it has drawn severe criticism from the Iranian government.

    Do you believe that Iran right now is a country with which we could -- the international community can have a constructive dialogue to monitor its nuclear program, or is Iran in your view a country that has to be watched and contained carefully?

    ERDOGAN (through translator): There are two things that should not be confused here. First, the plans to install the missile defense base. The radar base in Turkey is a NATO concept. No specific country has ever been referred to.

    We don't think Iran should get offended when there is no reason. We don't want to see Israel coming up with different interpretations from what is actually the reality. If Iran is interpreting it in a different way, it is their decision.

    I am speaking very frankly. Unless Turkey is attacked, we will never allow Iran to be attacked from the Turkish territory. But why is it that the country's banning Iran from having the nuclear weapons don't also ban Israel from having nuclear weapons?

    Israel possesses atomic and nuclear weaponry. What is the excuse? That Israel is under siege? But Israel is the only country in the region possessing nuclear weapons. In the north, only Russia has nuclear weapons.

    And Iran says that its only purpose is to generate affordable energy through nuclear power. We don't want to act on presumptions. And no sanctions based on presumptions are acceptable by Turkey.


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    yes the enemies against Israel would love nothing more than to have all the control but realistically Israel does have to prevent that from happening and Turkey well knows it

    the consequences of Israel’s failure to maintain the blockade would be “an Iranian port in Gaza, only a few dozen kilometers from Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

    Its not like that move gives Israel a shred of protection
    Its a ploy that undermines the security of Israel totally

    the blockade is intended to bring about a political goal Israel "should not lift the embargo altogether as long as Hamas remains in control" of Gaza.

    Israel has the right to decide that it chooses not to engage in economic relations or to give economic assistance to the other party to the conflict, or that it wishes to operate using 'economic warfare'

    however as we can see the enemies of Israel prefer to make Israel out to be the brute beast because they exercise their right to protect and defend their own Nation.

    and in the same vein they now want to propose the preposterous Ideal that
    the blockade is illegal

    no its not
    Its obviously necessary for Israel


    when the enemies of Israel is no longer restricted
    what then ?
    Israel gets blasted to smithereens

    I mean Its not like Israel's enemies have ever sworn off there real plans
    to destroy the Jews

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